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Infamous: Cole's prolonged Lightning Storm

First post, so forgive me if there are any errors

I recently saw an Alex Mercer VS Cole MacGrath thread on ComicVine where someone calculated the total heat and damage of Cole's prolonged Lightning Storm. Here's an excerpt:

Nuke is about 83,333,315.56 Celsius (50,000,000 to 150,000,000 Fahrenheit hot)

In 1 second, there's 30 microseconds of a terawatt

In 30 microseconds, there's enough heat transfer of around 30,000 kelvins (53,540 Fahrenheit)

Sun on the other hand, outer surface is around 6,000 kelvins (10,340 Fahrenheit). Core of course is around 15,000,000 kelvins (27,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit) but we don't care about that

1000000 divided by 30 equals to 33,333.33

That would mean one second of Cole's prolonged Lightning Storm equals to about (33,333.33 x 4) 133,333.2 times the heat of the sun

Appetizer = 1 second = 799,999,920 kelvin (800,000,000). That's more heat than a nuke in one second. By now one second of this you'd be dead

Not done yet. At maximum, Cole can prolong a Lightning Storm for 10 seconds if energy is full. Ionic Storm is usually just around 4 seconds

Side Dish = Ionic Storm/4 second serving = 3,199,999,680 kelvin (3,200,000,000). That's 3.2 billio

Buffet = Lightning Storm/10 second serving = 7,999,999,200 kelvin (8,000,000,000). That's almost 8 billio

Eat all you Ca - Karmic Overload + Lightning Storm/30 seconds = 23,999,997,600


That's 24 billion kelvin

(End of excerpt)

Are these calculations correct? And while we're at it, I have a few questions of my own

The average lightning strike peaks at 1 terawatt, but these strikes only last 30 microseconds (as said above). The terawatt is equivalent to one trillion (10^12) watts. And according to Wikipedia, a single bolt of lightning carries a relatively large amount of energy (approximately 5 billion joules or about the energy stored in 145 litres of petrol)

Now, if we applied real life logic, how much heat and energy would a 1, 4, 10 and 30 second prolonged lightning strike actually have? And what would that mean in terms of Attack Potency?

Thanks a quintillion
 
Converted it from watts to joules to tons of TNT and I got

2 390 057 361 376 673.5 tons

So 2.4x10^15 or 2.4 Petatons? Per second at least

I actually remember using this calc before against Alex Mercer in numerous debates with him... Good times... Either way that's a very big value. Although considering the fact that in the end he was able to cover a large amount of Earth when unleashing all his energy and it was just enough to destroy the Beast who was able to no-sell nukes.... It doesn't seem much of an outlier?
 
Hmm? Yup. Back on my early days where I loved Cole way too much. I never did get around to fixing that respect thread. Was going around Comicvine and Loungemovie trying to proclaim his victory against Alex like a preacher would about with the Word of God.
 
That's crazy, I remember seeing this like 3 years ago and thinking: "That's it. That's all the proof we need to show that Cole could fight Alex on even grounds." Was a major inFAMOUS fanboy back then too.
 
Turbonuke Lightning Storm and Alex being knocked around by an electric prod was kinda the core keys that allowed him to win tf. And same same. Might be the same too since lately I've been fond of heroic bald guys.... (cough saitama cough)
 
First off, it's currently standard policy to do this in a blog post which you the link to a Content Revision thread.

In addition, I'm not a math person (so my opinion doesn't hold much weight), but I'm not sure if you can calculate heat like that.

You must also link would-be calcs to the Calculation Evaluations thread for approval before using them. I've done so for you this time, but please remember to do so next time.
 
CoreOfimBalance(COB) said:
Converted it from watts to joules to tons of TNT and I got

2 390 057 361 376 673.5 tons

So 2.4x10^15 or 2.4 Petatons? Per second at least

I actually remember using this calc before against Alex Mercer in numerous debates with him... Good times... Either way that's a very big value. Although considering the fact that in the end he was able to cover a large amount of Earth when unleashing all his energy and it was just enough to destroy the Beast who was able to no-sell nukes.... It doesn't seem much of an outlier?
That was you? Well then, nice to meet you! Also, sorry for the delay, I wasn't sure if anyone was going to respond

Hmm, so basically, high-end Continent level (2.4 Petatons) per second and varying levels of Multi-Continent level with Ionic Storm (9.6 Petatons), full energy Lightning Storm (24 Petatons), and Lightning Storm with Karmic Overload (72 Petatons)? Interesting. Not sure if Kessler should scale from this who, despite not demonstrating Lightning Storm, possessed nearly double the power of his past self (Infamous 1 Good Cole at least). Then again he did manage to, even after withstanding all of Cole's most powerful attacks, withstand a non-Karmic Overload Lightning Storm (withstand in this case meaning it did not kill and/or vaporize him on contact) from the likes of Good Cole and even Evil Cole, the latter having activated the Ray Sphere a second time at the end of the penultimate mission in the first game, stating that "it gave me powers once before, if I used it again it could make me twice as strong". Though since the Infamous ending is non-canon and the latter is based on statement alone, it may not be viable or quantifiable, respectively. Still, even if we omit the non-canon feat, Kessler should still qualify for a durability upgrade at the very least. Same should apply to John White from Cole's timeline and non-Moon level John White from Kessler's timeline

So what would be the next course of action? Do we upgrade Cole and maybe the others to Continent level+/Multi-Continent level? Or do we need additional input? Or is all of this unviable?

Again, thanks a quintillion

Also, I know it's late, but happy thanksgiving everyone!
 
Right now it's an outlier for his main feats so it can't be really scaled to everyone. It's also being checked to see whether the calc of it being Petaton is valid or not. But it does seem to make sense for Cole to be on this level when using the RFI

Nice to meetcha too little buddy. Welcome to VSB and I hope you enjoy your stay here. And thanks much.
 
From my experience, creating and sustaining Thunderstorms tends to be around City to Mountain level. But you'll once again have to talk this out with a calc group member.
 
Gotcha and thanks, I'll look around for any thunderstorm feat too. I recall Cole summoning a small one the moment he woke up in the first part of the game
 
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/c/c5/What-the-****-mutha-*****-is-you-serious.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/390?cb=20161127012643
WTF is this?
 
LOL yeah, I guess I overreacted a little, but still, how can Continental Cole be stronger than City level John White when Cole barely managed to defeat him with help? That makes no sense.
 
Also, this isn't the mother of all upgrades. Two years ago, Kingdom Hearts characters went from Large Buildiing level to Large Planet level so...
 
Well right now it's more of an outlier for his main feats, or anything. Also, it's being checked to see whether the calc of it being Petaton is valid or not.

But it could be a buff for RFI Cole at least, considering he basically curbstomped the Beast, and had an unlimited amount of electricity to work with.
 
Would the Heat, Radiation and Nuclear-like Explosions calculator be of any help? I can maybe find a better way to calc the destructive capacity if you need it.
 
Figured that it makes sense, since Cole did drain a natural thunderstorm in inFAMOUS 2, and when his powers first activated, he caused a storm so powerful it destroyed the bridge he was running on. If anybody has something to say on this, please comment.
 
Well, we probably need a calculation blog post, as Reppuzan mentioned.
 
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