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I'm Sorry

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Vzearr

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Hi,

It's me, Vapourrrr. Since the start of my wiki days. Just about three years ago now, I’ve caused a lot of trouble and made many mistakes.

Recently, I was given the opportunity to return to the wiki, and I was honored to accept it. But as soon as I came back, I stirred up some controversy again, and I want to sincerely apologize for that. It won’t happen again.

However, the main thing I want to apologize for is lying to you all for years. I regret it deeply. Honestly, thinking about it now, I would’ve had a lot more fun if I had just stayed calm. It makes me feel like I need to take a PRN looking back on it.

During those years, I was going through the darkest period of my life. After many attempts and permanent scars, I stand here again at the wikii, presenting to you all a new me, a new Vapourrrr, a new Vzearr.

I'm sorry, truly, a thousand times over.

I understand that I might never be forgiven, but I felt it was important to restart my journey with an apology.

I’ll do my best to help out, whether or not I have any staff roles. I’ll work to repair the damage I’ve done and do whatever I can to benefit the wiki going forward.

Thank you, and once again, I'm sorry.
 
Vzearr said:
presenting to you all a new me, a new Vapourrrr, a new Vzearr.
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Vzearr said:
Hi,

It's me, Vapourrrr. Since the start of my wiki days. Just about three years ago now, I’ve caused a lot of trouble and made many mistakes.

Recently, I was given the opportunity to return to the wiki, and I was honored to accept it. But as soon as I came back, I stirred up some controversy again, and I want to sincerely apologize for that. It won’t happen again.

However, the main thing I want to apologize for is lying to you all for years. I regret it deeply. Honestly, thinking about it now, I would’ve had a lot more fun if I had just stayed calm. It makes me feel like I need to take a PRN looking back on it.

During those years, I was going through the darkest period of my life. After many attempts and permanent scars, I stand here again at the wikii, presenting to you all a new me, a new Vapourrrr, a new Vzearr.

I'm sorry, truly, a thousand times over.

I understand that I might never be forgiven, but I felt it was important to restart my journey with an apology.

I’ll do my best to help out, whether or not I have any staff roles. I’ll work to repair the damage I’ve done and do whatever I can to benefit the wiki going forward.

Thank you, and once again, I'm sorry.
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Most of us don't care if you are vapour or not; what we care about is what you are doing right now, and that is what is important.

Now with that in mind, try to keep the start light, and avoid controversial topics until you have done a few more normal ones (While this is not against the rules, it does look a lot better)
 
i hate trauma dumping my stuff online, but i also had moments when taking that jump simply felt too liberating, so i understand the hardships and emotional turmoil you may go trough trying to get trough that phase of your life.

working around emotions trough introspection because i had no concept of therapy or mental illness back in the day was all i could even try to do, and i still only do that because people around me also don't beleive in mentall illness...

at least what you could do is try to alleviate it, i for example, for emotions too strongly, heart wrenching guilt when i feel like i wronged someone, even if it was minor, that usually happens when i think i've been too rude to someone in an argument online because my fight or flight responses kicked in, i assumed the worst of them, and start arguing in a not neurtal tone, tho it's not exactly bad, more so just....mean 🫠


tho i still remember being mistaken as your sock puppet for defending your sock puppet in the rvr....you had people so paranoid it's honestly still funny lol, but i think i'd recommed just listening to music and calming down a little bit as you mule over your own thoughts and what do you actually feel like, at least in my experience, that helped a little bit because i could see what i did wrong and analyze my behavior so i could at least see what causes it and try to minimize and get over whatever that was


i hope you feel better, please take care of yourself, no one here really hates you or blames for anything

take care ❤️
 
Vzearr said:
Hi,

It's me, Vapourrrr. Since the start of my wiki days. Just about three years ago now, I’ve caused a lot of trouble and made many mistakes.

Recently, I was given the opportunity to return to the wiki, and I was honored to accept it. But as soon as I came back, I stirred up some controversy again, and I want to sincerely apologize for that. It won’t happen again.

However, the main thing I want to apologize for is lying to you all for years. I regret it deeply. Honestly, thinking about it now, I would’ve had a lot more fun if I had just stayed calm. It makes me feel like I need to take a PRN looking back on it.

During those years, I was going through the darkest period of my life. After many attempts and permanent scars, I stand here again at the wikii, presenting to you all a new me, a new Vapourrrr, a new Vzearr.

I'm sorry, truly, a thousand times over.

I understand that I might never be forgiven, but I felt it was important to restart my journey with an apology.

I’ll do my best to help out, whether or not I have any staff roles. I’ll work to repair the damage I’ve done and do whatever I can to benefit the wiki going forward.

Thank you, and once again, I'm sorry.
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Bro everyday i open a new thread of you apologizing again.

(I don't think there is a person in the wiki who's angry at you or didn't forgive you imo)
 
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Most everyone here has said all that needed to be said, but I think you deserve some actual practical instruction too on how best to proceed from here, so here's some specific advice that I believe can really help you here.

Let's be real here for a moment, Tokyo Revengers is controversial as HELL currently. What this means is that ANY thread, calc, argument, whatever; all of that is gonna receive extra scrutiny from both members and staff alike. You know as well as anyone else why the verse is under so much fire right now, so the best advice right now is to simply forget it for a while.

In the mean time, here's what you can do. Obviously, whether one likes to admit it or not, the wiki and the forum runs on an inherent system of "reputation" here, much like real life. Users with good reputation here are naturally taken a lot more seriously and their arguments are generally preferred (which, I admit, is a double-edged sword since there have been NUMEROUS instances where this has lead to actual bias, we're not perfect) than those with "less" reputation. Fortunately, though, building a good reputation here is not that hard. Hey, you became a CGM, a Content Mod and a Thread Mod, you already know how this works. I managed to build a fairly decent reputation too, by engaging in many threads and particularly difficult content revisions and even staff threads later on, I wrote high quality responses, made meaningful contributions to said threads and that resulted in many more members and even staff viewing me in a much more positive light (and I even hope to be the reliable "go-to" guy for certain topics that I believe I'm well-versed in)

You too can do this (you already did when you were promoted, btw), by doing what I did. Forget TR for a while and try engaging in other threads and in other verses, maybe even staff threads where you think you can contribute meaningfully. Now I'm not saying you should do this just to build a better reputation, that'd obviously be manipulative, what I am saying is that these are meaningful ways to still contribute to the wiki and discussions when you otherwise feel like you keep screwing up and can't get anything right. You can even evaluate and do calcs for other verses too, there's many possibilities that I'm sure you actually know of better than I do.

So yeah, these are some ways you can do better if you feel like you can't or aren't doing anything right currently. The forum and its members deserve meaningful contribution, but even more importantly than that, YOU owe it to YOURSELF to do better as well.
 
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MeiouHades said:
You can even evaluate and do calcs for other verses too, there's many possibilities that I'm sure you actually know of better than I do, and who knows you might be promoted again later, it's not unheard of for demoted staff to be promoted again later on.
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I don't think stuff like this should be laid out in public, staff demotion and promotion is incredibly sensitive stuff that is kept confidential for good reasons.
 
KLOL506 said:
I don't think stuff like this should be laid out in public, staff demotion and promotion is incredibly sensitive stuff that is kept confidential for good reasons.
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Understood, but isn't it common knowledge that many former staff tend to regain their positions sometimes?
 
MeiouHades said:
Understood, but isn't it common knowledge that many former staff tend to regain their positions sometimes?
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Usually if they retire honorably or due to personal reasons. To my knowledge, it is next to impossible for staff dishonorably demoted, especially for permaban-worthy reasons, to ever get their positions back. And even by conveying this I am putting a massive target on my back.
 
KLOL506 said:
Usually if they retire honorably or due to personal reasons. To my knowledge, it is next to impossible for staff dishonorably demoted, especially for permaban-worthy reasons, to ever get their positions back.
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Fair enough.
KLOL506 said:
And even by conveying this I am putting a massive target on my back.
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'Twas nice knowing you.
 
I think you should honestly take a break (again) or at least slow down to improve your mental health, you made like several threads back to back to back within just this week alone. Some of them being controversial asf. The demon slayer calc thread was poorly made and got closed super fast, The TR calc thread and TR staff thread both got shut down as well. I've seen you goon with super ignorant arguments in many calc threads making points that seem so unreasonable, paired with unnecessarily bad mouthing people's arguments, it all comes off so aggressive and forced it is as though you're tryna disagree for the sake of disagreeing (idk if it's some subconscious hate boner for the site's people or trying to appeal to downgrade lovers, I'm not gonna assume either way as I don't know what's going on with you) it just comes off like you're moving way too fast and trying too many controversial things at once, if you truly want a fresh restart deep down, instead of bunny hopping from verse to verse, pick one series, scale that properly and not just how hard those people can punch or blitz, I'm talking about working on a verse for all aspects, including P&A, LS, Range, profile quality, revising everything while taking your time (I used to be an AP/speed-only goon not long ago myself) , once you're able to fully accomplish that you'll start gaining trust and might be allowed back to work on TR
 
KLOL506 said:
Ye I think he was just another blue name like us, with no human rights or paycut for the calcs we churned out, we are a poor and oppressed group
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i like how yall are putting the messages where you mention Mr. B behind a blur like he's the boogeyman or some shit 😭
 
Well, from what I recall we were about to ban him, but took too long since it was much harder for us to investigate back then before we used Discord or forum private messages, but we were too slow, so Fandom handled it right before we had the chance to do so.

Also, we weren't experienced or organised enough to be able to handle complicated social drama situations back then. 🙏
 
MrTayman616 said:
Might be insensetive but you got me curious :d

Could you explain what happened please? 🙏
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it was before my time. A guy was a mod tried to make a person who was in trouble to fetish horse roleplay, or something along those lines. Bro got caught. Pretty sure the person he was chatting up was a minor too. I forgot their name, it was ancient history for me.
 
Arceus0x said:
it was before my time. A guy was a mod tried to make a person who was in trouble to fetish horse roleplay, or something along those lines. Bro got caught. Pretty sure the person he was chatting up was a minor too. I forgot their name, it was ancient history for me.
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Bro wth. "fetish horse roleplay" what even is this?
 
Arceus0x said:
it was before my time. A guy was a mod tried to make a person who was in trouble to fetish horse roleplay, or something along those lines. Bro got caught. Pretty sure the person he was chatting up was a minor too. I forgot their name, it was ancient history for me.
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.....
VSB lore deserves a webnovel or something honestly, or at least one of those famous Reddit stories or YouTube videos.....
 
Yeah, in any case I don't think it's a great idea to chit-chat in here especially because @KLOL506 already said a lot of this information is sensitive too, even accidental slip-ups can be bad. For the thread itself, @Vzearr has been given great advice by everyone here and I do hope he follows that and improves quickly and consistently. Good luck to him as well.
 
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