Ichigo Kurosaki vs March 7th (14-15-2)

[ThanatosX]

All that wank just to still only debatably beat Ichigo is lowkey embarrassing.

To be fair, March is like one of the weakest 3-C characters in Honkai. She is used a lot because using other characters would result in a lot of stomps from their side. Still, planning to use other characters too once all the revisions are over.

I already talked to @Arc7Kuroi and he confirms that the invisibility is indeed layered. Since normal souls exists as baseline invisibility

Pretty sure this was already debated, and I believe it was concluded that March seeing conceptual 1-A+ souls would allow her to see a 3 dimensional soul regardless of how layered the invisibility was. And if that wasn't the general consesous than that's definitely how I see it going, since it would make little sense to me that someone able to see conceptual Tier 1 souls would have troubles seeing a regular 3 dimensional soul, imho.

 

[Johner2133451]

As useful as marchs passive probability, this barely explains anything, "hard to perceive" doesnt mean much (especially with march enchanced senses), anyway i think you have less than 12 hours to apply since grace started yesterday(?)

Also grace time gets resetted because the change of dynamics. It was graced for Ichigo and then grace for incon

 

[Johner2133451]

To be fair, March is like one of the weakest 3-C characters in Honkai. She is used a lot because using other characters would result in a lot of stomps from their side. Still, planning to use other characters too once all the revisions are over.

Pretty sure this was already debated, and I believe it was concluded that March seeing conceptual 1-A+ souls would allow her to see a 3 dimensional soul regardless of how layered the invisibility was. And if that wasn't the general consesous than that's definitely how I see it going, since it would make little sense to me that someone able to see conceptual Tier 1 souls would have troubles seeing a regular 3 dimensional soul, imho.

No that was refuted as I remember. Seeing conceptual souls only grants you baseline enhanced senses

 

[Johner2133451]

You could however make a CRT to update March's enhanced senses since it seems she can see someone with layered invisibility

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March was able to see and talk with the Messenger, the context when Welt said that (The feat for layered invisibility): Welt and Himeko wasn't able to see the Messenger and it's the Trailblazer who could see it since the Messenger allows it.

Don't know why it's not on the profile though, Enryu and Aernasilver are the ones who work on the profile so this could be revised, yeah.

 

[Johner2133451]

• Invisibility (1 Layer; Memokeepers are invisible even to those who can see invisible beings)

 

[Success0906]

Souls were accepted as 1-A+ Concept and information, right?

 

[Woomica]

Souls were accepted as 1-A+ Concept and information, right?

yes, so unless she actually needs layered invisibility sensing feat which she has + black swan has already that listed on her profile i think she can see ichigo, if not i can just quickly drop a crt and solve it

 

[Johner2133451]

Souls were accepted as 1-A+ Concept and information, right?

Yes but that's a non factor in regarding invisibility

@LephyrTheRevanchist even mentioned you must make a thread to update March's enhanced senses so she can see shinigami's like Ichigo

 

[Johner2133451]

yes, so unless she actually needs layered invisibility sensing feat which she has + black swan has already that listed on her profile i think she can see ichigo, if not i can just quickly drop a crt and solve it

@LephyrTheRevanchist says you need to make a CRT so sure

Post in thread 'Ichigo Kurosaki vs March 7th (14-15-2)'

Wednesday at 15:32

Oh alright but I think you can make a minor update to March's profile and giving her layered enhanced senses

Needs a thread.

That's just one shot

That's honestly all Ichigo needs here as well, considering his base Getsuga already bypasses her heat resist.

Right now, I'm going with inconclusive. It's a question of who hits the other first imo. Though further arguments could sway me.

• LephyrTheRevanchist

 

[Woomica]

@LephyrTheRevanchist says you need to make a CRT so sure

Post in thread 'Ichigo Kurosaki vs March 7th (14-15-2)'

Wednesday at 15:32

Oh alright but I think you can make a minor update to March's profile and giving her layered enhanced senses

Needs a thread.

That's just one shot

That's honestly all Ichigo needs here as well, considering his base Getsuga already bypasses her heat resist.

Right now, I'm going with inconclusive. It's a question of who hits the other first imo. Though further arguments could sway me.

• LephyrTheRevanchist

Okey boss

 

[Voidnether]

Oh yeah, change my vote to Match, don't ask why (FRA)

 

[Johner2133451]

Looks like March is winning the battle of FRA's

 

[KazuiK]

I still don't know who to vote for, but I have questions.

Can't Ichigo use blut to increase his stats?

Another point, on March 7th I didn't see any form of analytical forecast listed, nor anything similar in the intelligence section. In personality, is she the deductive and observant type?

Anyway, voting for Ichigo for the above reasons and considering that Ichigo always takes into consideration the opponent's strength, knowing how strong March 7th is, he could indeed give a one shot with gt.

 

[ThanatosX]

No that was refuted as I remember. Seeing conceptual souls only grants you baseline enhanced senses

Actually, no one said anything else about that argument after the conceptual nature of souls was pointed out. If the Invisibility was something active, like Camouflage of something, I could get behind it, but it is caused by his nature as a Shinigami/soul. Considering that March can sense being far more complex than that (conceptual 1-A+ stuff), Ichigo being undetectable to her seems a big assumption to me, that kinda even borders on the NLF territory. But again, that's my opinion, people can disagree with it.