i found a debunk for archie sonic

[Theuser789]

Here's the first thread this was brought up and rejected

 

[Slenderblak]

Honestly I hope this thread doesn't get shut down too quickly, I'm actually enjoying the show!.
Almost every "debunk" I've seen for Archie Sonic (including Ultraguy's blob that I've already read awhile back) comes from a place of head-canon and for some reason trying call ALL the high end feats outliers because game Sonic's high end feats are also outliers (as well as the typical "IT'S CARTOON PHYSICS" so it doesn't count or gags).

If we follow the logic of these "debunks" Batman would be at least tier 2 for drop kicking Spectre, Goku would be bullet level and so on...

well classic sonic era was like deadpool and we could count as composite sonic who is ftlx10 i think idk about the ultimate annihilator thing tho bruh batman tier 2 goku bullet level ? okay so if we follow this logic then gohan adult ssj2 (starts of buu saga) is more durable

 

[Slenderblak]

Here's the first thread this was brought up and rejected

thanks

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Slender, nothing you said made any sense...like at all...

 

[Theuser789]

Two other threads, this definitively needs a discussion rule because they always are the same, thinking that linking the blog is enough for a downgrade

 

[Slenderblak]

Slender, nothing you said made any sense...like at all...

bruh leave me alone please

 

[ShakeResounding]

It's not like he's attacking you.

Also, weren't you the guy who was literally just accusing Sonic fans of wanking? Don't dish out what you can't handle, and I mean this in the nicest way possible. You gotta be reasonable, bring up valid points, and remain civil. Accusing others of wanking is exactly what you don't wanna do.

 

[Slenderblak]

Two other threads, this definitively needs a discussion rule because they always are the same, thinking that linking the blog is enough for a downgrade

maybe

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Slender, nothing you said made any sense...like at all...

bruh leave me alone please

Then don't spam downgrade threads with poor reasoning.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

bruh leave me alone please

If you're going to debate, expect to be challenged mate and if you can't bring up objective points in a respectful, well constructive manor then hold your peace.

As for my initial comment, cliff-notes version: you CAN'T cherry pick feats to downplay or high-ball a character, it's all about consistency (if read you the replies/debunks to Ultra-guy's blog you'll know he left out some major feats while making assumptions to fill in the gaps aka head-canon).

 

[Slenderblak]

Slender, nothing you said made any sense...like at all...

bruh leave me alone please

Then don't spam downgrade threads with poor reasoning.

i regret that but sonic multiversal is big no for me but im sorry if i annoyed you sir

 

[Slenderblak]

but is he 100% wrong ? i bethink not but does he has some wrong statements ? yes

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

If Multiversal Sonic is a big no for you. Prove it. This is something you have failed to do and you have brought nothing relevant to the table.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

but is he 100% wrong ? i bethink not
but does he has some wrong statements ? yes

Explain why he's not 100% wrong. Make an argument. What are these "not wrong" statements.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Explain why he's not 100% wrong. Make an argument. What are these "not wrong" statements.

Technically he can't prove a negative. You have to explain why he his wrong.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

He hasn't even made any points to prove he was right in the first place.

 

[Slenderblak]

but is he 100% wrong ? i bethink not
but does he has some wrong statements ? yes

Explain why he's not 100% wrong. Make an argument. What are these "not wrong" statements.

he wasnt wrong about the master mogul part and he wasnt wrong about the ultimate annihilator nor enerjak's avatar

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

What does this mean? You have not even giving us an argument as to what you are debunking nor how it's debunked.

 

[Js250476]

I'm just gonna say I love Ultraguy and am neutral about Archie Sonic's Stats, But you can't keep posting downgrade threads without any elaboration or arguments against it besides "this guy debunked this in a blog".

Ultra himself has told me he doesn't mind/care what this site rates Sonic saying "it's a free country after all." (In fact another DB researcher has told me Ultra is considering the buffs from Mavericks Archie blog but that's not to relevant here.)

 

[Theuser789]

First Master Mogul already has a 2-A feat, Sonic was literaly holding Eggman when they were hit by It, and Enerjak already has 2-A feats

 

[Slenderblak]

because sonic fought mogul before he got the chaos force and master mogul was took his power away by the composite tails and sonic didnt beat him with his own power and the another thing is that sonic hit an exhausted enerjak's avatar and enerjak's avatar is weaker than master mogul for obvious reasons and the genesis wave that destroyed the multiverse sonic didnt stop it with his own power he used the chaos emeraulds to do it because the gw is created by with the power of C.E or something like that and about the ultimate annihilator works by targeting specific bio signitures that need to be programed into it so sonic didnt got harmed by it

 

[Slenderblak]

First Master Mogul already has a 2-A feat, Sonic was literaly holding Eggman when they were hit by It, and Enerjak already has 2-A feats

yes

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I get internet for 5 minuets and I see this lol. The majority's right. Guys. Can I close this?

 

[Theuser789]

First Mogul already has a 2-A feat that's on his profile, plus oficial guides put both forms at the same level plus Mogul himself calls them both godhood

Enerjak got his energy back via Finitivues help right before he fought Sonic.

Sonic used Chaos Control to reality warp the Super Genesis Wave twice, he didn't use the Genesis Wave power, that's headcanon.

Sonic was straight up holding Eggman when they were hit by It, including his mustache

 

[Slenderblak]

I'm just gonna say I love Ultraguy and am neutral about Archie Sonic's Stats, But you can't keep posting downgrade threads without any elaboration or arguments against it besides "this guy debunked this in a blog".
Ultra himself has told me he doesn't mind/care what this site rates Sonic saying "it's a free country after all." (In fact another DB researcher has told me Ultra is considering the buffs from Mavericks Archie blog but that's not to relevant here.)

yea

 

[Theuser789]

I get internet for 5 minuets and I see this lol. The majority's right. Guys. Can I close this?

Yes, and tbh a discussion rule should be made, every month someone comes by trying to downgrade Archie Sonic only using the blog, it's repetitive

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Back! Back Cal! Enjoy vacation! Bad!

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I agree with User. A discussion rule should be made.

 

[Schnee_One]

Blah Bkah no reasoning debunk blah blah

Closing