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How strong is this feat?

ArgentDragonPluto

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So, what AP would you give if a character could destroy a oven from the medieval age by using fire magic? And is there a way to calculate it? Or could this just be ranked as Wall level by default?
 
StorytellingDemonKing said:
So, what AP would you give if a character could destroy a oven from the medieval age by using fire magic? And is there a way to calculate it? Or could this just be ranked as Wall level by default?
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Depends on the nature of the fire magic, and whether it was an explosion or simply burning. Also I assume oven as that brick furnace that they used to cook?
 
Naitodesu said:
Depends on the nature of the fire magic, and whether it was an explosion or simply burning.
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It was destroyed with a fireball, so Im guessing an explosion since fireballs are typically displayed to have that kind of destruction instead of burning/melting.

Naitodesu said:
Also I assume oven is the brick furnace that they used to cook?
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Yeah, just checked and it's stated to be made out of bricks.
 
Depends on how big and heavy the oven is and what it's made out of.
 
That's just a chimney, the oven would undoubtedly be bigger to some degree methinks.
 
Well, it is made out of brick, so I searched up and found some companies average sizes for ovens. I couldn't find the overall average for them, but would this work? If it does I might post it in the calculation request.

Overall height: 760mm
Width: 1100mm
Depth:1100mm
 
Well you'd probably have some difficulty getting the volume, but I think it can be done if you meticulously get the accurate volume using the correct shapes
 
StorytellingDemonKing said:
Well, it is made out of brick, so I searched up and found some companies average sizes for ovens. I couldn't find the overall average for them, but would this work? If it does I might post it in the calculation request.

Overall height: 760mm
Width: 1100mm
Depth:1100mm
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Great, we now only need the weight of the brick portion and the metal portion. We can determine their volumes by dividing mass with density, then it's straight off to using the destruction values.
 
KLOL506 said:
Great, we now only need the weight of the brick portion and the metal portion. We can determine their volumes by dividing mass with density, then it's straight off to using the destruction values.
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This is the full description of the oven, don't know how much that helps but yeah.
 
I guess in the lack of better options just assume the entire thing to be brick as a low-ball without the metal parts.

Red bricks have a density of 1922 kg/m^3.

Volume= Mass/Density

Volume= 750/1922= 0.39021852237 m^3

They have the same destruction values as concrete, 6 J/cc for frag, 17-20 J/cc for v. frag and 40 J/cc for pulv.

Frag: 0.39021852237 * 1e+6 * 6= 2,341,311.13422 J (9-B, Wall level)

V. Frag (17 J/cc): 0.39021852237 * 1e+6 * 17= 6,633,714.88029 J (9-B, Wall level)

V. Frag (20 J/cc): 0.39021852237 * 1e+6 * 20= 7,804,370.4474 J (9-B, Wall level)

Pulv: 0.39021852237 * 1e+6 * 40= 15,608,740.8948 J (9-B+, Wall level+) (Wall level+ starts at 10,467,500 joules)
 
KLOL506 said:
I guess in the lack of better options just assume the entire thing to be brick as a low-ball without the metal parts.

Red bricks have a density of 1922 kg/m^3.

Volume= Mass/Density

Volume= 750/1922= 0.39021852237 m^3

They have the same destruction values as concrete, 6 J/cc for frag, 17-20 J/cc for v. frag and 40 J/cc for pulv.

Frag: 0.39021852237 * 1e+6 * 6= 2,341,311.13422 J (9-B, Wall level)

V. Frag (17 J/cc): 0.39021852237 * 1e+6 * 17= 6,633,714.88029 J (9-B, Wall level)

V. Frag (20 J/cc): 0.39021852237 * 1e+6 * 20= 7,804,370.4474 J (9-B, Wall level)

Pulv: 0.39021852237 * 1e+6 * 40= 15,608,740.8948 J (9-B+, Wall level+) (Wall level+ starts at 10,467,500 joules)
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Thanks. Now I will have a more solid rating instead of "At least Peak Human, likely higher" lmao

Can I put this in a blog, and have it evaluated btw? Or since you calced it would you prefer yourself to be the one blogging it?
 
StorytellingDemonKing said:
Thanks. Now I will have a more solid rating instead of "At least Peak Human, likely higher" lmao

Can I put this in a blog, and have it evaluated btw? Or since you calced it would you prefer yourself to be the one blogging it?
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Sure, but don't forget to credit me while you're at it, and ask a few calc peeps to evaluate, since I can't evaluate my own calc.
 
I just found out that there is a manga. I did extremely simple PX scaling where I used an average brick height (65mm) as a reference and the measurements came out to be this:
Lower Oven part length: 145px or 157cm
Lower Oven part width: 157cm (assuming to be the same as length)
Lower Oven part height: 122px or 132cm

Upper Oven part length: 63px or 65cm
Upper Oven part width: 65cm (assuming to be the same as length)
Upper Oven part height: 77px or 83cm



What would be the result of these measurements?
 
StorytellingDemonKing said:
I just found out that there is a manga. I did extremely simple PX scaling where I used an average brick height (65mm) as a reference and the measurements came out to be this:
Lower Oven part length: 145px or 157cm
Lower Oven part width: 157cm (assuming to be the same as length)
Lower Oven part height: 122px or 132cm

Upper Oven part length: 63px or 65cm
Upper Oven part width: 65cm (assuming to be the same as length)
Upper Oven part height: 77px or 83cm



What would be the result of these measurements?
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The side walls are missing.

Also you'd need to separate the front section into two, an upper rectangle and two smaller rectangles below it on each side, assuming brick width as the thickness of said walls.
 
Alrighty, back with the new, hopefully, more precise measurements.

Bottom left pink rectangle

Length: 48px or 0.51984m

Width: 48px or 0.25992m (Assuming to be half of length)

Height: 107px or 1.15881m

This is for 1 rectangle, so will have 2x the result for this.

Bottom middle purple rectangle (Above the hole)

Length: 50px or 0.5415m

Width: 50px or 0.27075m (Assuming to be half of length)

Height: 55px or 0.59565m

Top green rectangle

Length: 66px or 0.71478m

Width: 66px or 0.35739m (Assuming to be half of length)

Height: 77px or 0.83391m



So, what would be the result with these new measurements for the oven?
 
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The side walls are still missing BTW, you only measured the frontal portion.
 
KLOL506 said:
The side walls are still missing BTW, you only measured the frontal portion.
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Sidewalls = width (I'm assuming it's the same as length). If that's what you're asking. We never actually geta shot for sidewalls. Hopefully, I'm not misunderstanding something.

Also changed millimeters to meters.
 
Actually nvm, completely misunderstood something. I got a result of 3681.02316 kilojoules. I think that's wall-level, but not sure how far into it.
 
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