How powerful are the Silmarils V.2.

[Antvasima]

Thank you for attempting to clear this up VoidReaper.

 

[VoidReaper]

No problem Antvasima, any time!

 

[ThatCrimsonTomcat]

Just a random comment; I find it more likely that the Silmarills and the Light of the Two Trees would weaken Carcharoth, and Ungoliant, rather then strengthening them. If I remember correctly, Carcharoth was boosted by the rage that resulted from the pain of the Silmaril burning him. I find it unlikely that an object would simultaneously attack and give power to another being. The same goes for Ungoliant. Though the Light of the Two Trees didn't burn her, I find it doubtful that a monster would be able to gain any significant power boost from something made by the Valar.

 

[VoidReaper]

If I recall at least Ungoliant grew in size and certainly scared Morgoth. Carcharoth on the other hand, I agree that his burning and apparent rage would make him more dangerous.

 

[ThatCrimsonTomcat]

Really?

Hm

I shall have to reread the Silmarillion sometime

 

[MasterOfArda]

Wel, actually, the Morgoth line was this:

"[Morgoth's] might was greatest of all things"

 

[MasterOfArda]

Bump.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we need help from knowledgeable staff members to get anywhere.

 

[MasterOfArda]

Do you know anyone who can evaluate this?

 

[Antvasima]

Not beyond the people thst I mentioned previously. I suppose that I could ask Azathoth and The Everlasting again.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Dunno if this has fully been resolved, but I wouldn't scale the Silmarils directly to the two trees.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the evaluation. Should this thread be closed then?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I don't know. Are other points still being discussed?

 

[Antvasima]

I am uncertain. I handle lots of different tasks, so I do not remember the specifics so well.

 

[MasterOfArda]

What about scaling Fingolfin and Feanor to Morgoth?

 

[MasterOfArda]

Bump.

 

[MasterOfArda]

Bump.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. Sorry.

 

[MasterOfArda]

@Antvasima

Okay.

@Azathoth

What do you think?

 

[MasterOfArda]

Bump.

 

[Antvasima]

It does jot seem like this thread will ever lead anywhere. Sorry.

Perhaps I should close it?

 

[MasterOfArda]

I disagree with closing threads becuase it might take a while for them to conclude.

Someone will eventually comment, though you can unfollow this if you are too busy or do not feel you are knowledgeable enouh to make a call.

Before you do, what do you think of the Morgoth quote.

I am not asking approval or rejection, just your opinion.

"[Morgoth's] might was greatest of all things"

Though I understand if you are too busy, given the massive amount of contrabutions you have made.

 

[Antvasima]

We already know that Morgoth was originally the strongest of the Valar.

 

[Antvasima]

However, again, you can probably wait for months, and unless other staff members take an active interest, it will not lead anywhere.

 

[MasterOfArda]

I am refering to at the time of his fight with Fingolfin.

Bassically, is that quote sufficent to warrent even a weakened Morgoth being "At least 4-A, likely 3-B"

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. The stories seems extremely inconsistent in terms of power levels.

 

[MasterOfArda]

Okay.

You can close this, if you feel like it.

If it is okay with you, I will make a revision thread for LOTR.

Also, I apologize if I am bothersome.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.