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How Does Alovenus Transcending work?
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You should ask @Celestial_Pegasus to comment here
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Her power works based on her opponent, if her opponent is infinitely strong, she would see infinity as 1 and multiply that by 100 or something.
The idea i got from it is basically forget about trying to surpass her, she will always be above you, now obviously, this has limits, we don't just assume she will transcend a 1-A being, it caps at Low 1-A.
To say she gets infinitely strong or multiply infinity, doesn't really explain what she does though, as stated when Ruphas and Alovenus faced off, their battle involves rising to the peak of infinity, so to me the idea is that there are levels of infinity, which they can ascend to, not necessarily that she is 100xinfinite strong or whatever, infinityx100=infinity, they wouldn't actually be getting stronger in that case, but clearly they are.
Not a math guy, you would have to get Ultima Reality to explain the math involved. but our entire tiering system is based around math now, which uses alephs and cardinals and what not, i don't really get all that, but when it comes to Alovenus, it's not about multiplication, so much as she is transcending to higher infinities, obvious from the fact that it's said that if she faced a higher dimensional being who can treat people like paper, it wouldn't work.
2-A=destroying an infinite number of universes, but even destroying several sets of infinite universes, won't make you Low 1-C, because infinityxinfinity=infinite, it's only when the infinity being described is uncountably infinite, that you get to Low 1-C.
If the higher dimensional guy is 5-D, which they clearly are cause they perceive people as fictional, and Alovenus gets infinitely stronger than them, obviously it's not a countable infinite, cause again, infinityxinfinity=infinite, it's an uncountably infinite, and thus Alovenus is 6-D.
Of course she isn't 6-D, and she ascends to Low 1-A, again proving it's not a countably infinity, the point really is that her transcendence is in terms of uncountable infinities/dimensional differences, whatever you wanna call it.
The idea i got from it is basically forget about trying to surpass her, she will always be above you, now obviously, this has limits, we don't just assume she will transcend a 1-A being, it caps at Low 1-A.
To say she gets infinitely strong or multiply infinity, doesn't really explain what she does though, as stated when Ruphas and Alovenus faced off, their battle involves rising to the peak of infinity, so to me the idea is that there are levels of infinity, which they can ascend to, not necessarily that she is 100xinfinite strong or whatever, infinityx100=infinity, they wouldn't actually be getting stronger in that case, but clearly they are.
Not a math guy, you would have to get Ultima Reality to explain the math involved. but our entire tiering system is based around math now, which uses alephs and cardinals and what not, i don't really get all that, but when it comes to Alovenus, it's not about multiplication, so much as she is transcending to higher infinities, obvious from the fact that it's said that if she faced a higher dimensional being who can treat people like paper, it wouldn't work.
2-A=destroying an infinite number of universes, but even destroying several sets of infinite universes, won't make you Low 1-C, because infinityxinfinity=infinite, it's only when the infinity being described is uncountably infinite, that you get to Low 1-C.
If the higher dimensional guy is 5-D, which they clearly are cause they perceive people as fictional, and Alovenus gets infinitely stronger than them, obviously it's not a countable infinite, cause again, infinityxinfinity=infinite, it's an uncountably infinite, and thus Alovenus is 6-D.
Of course she isn't 6-D, and she ascends to Low 1-A, again proving it's not a countably infinity, the point really is that her transcendence is in terms of uncountable infinities/dimensional differences, whatever you wanna call it.
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Thank you for this!
Lormac_CC
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Asked so that you can downgrade the verse the next dayThank you for this!
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I wasn't planning on downgrading it today, I was debating with a person who said Rimuru (2B) could beat Alovenus (Low 1A) And while I was trying to gather scans on Alovenus I ran into that thread, I read through it and thought it was a pretty well made, so I posted it on this site
Lormac_CC
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Well, the thread did point out flaws
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Foddervenus stays as Fodder, so nice
