Honkai: Star Rail 3-B rescaling

[Community_Gamer]

How do you extrapolate her statement as just her and dominicus??the

So it is stated verbatim that to overcome a power of an Emanator, you need the same level of power as an Emanator. How do you interpret it as only applying to her and Dominicus????

You are correct I think I was misinterpreting the statement. Also with the supporting evidence from Black Swan, Herta, and Evernight (even Welt's statement) I think it's safe to conclude that Emanators are generally comparable. Which aligns narratively otherwise the Destruction would've already won.

Besides if Acheron can destroy a manifestation of IX, which is just essentially one of IX's Avatars, then I don't see why other Emanators cannot do something comparable. This should be comparable to Phainon's feat and just a step behind what Irontomb was planning to do.

Herta connected with the mind of Nous, intending to redefine their instants but ultimately didn't need to.
Dominicus is just said to be equal to Acheron, along with Jing Yuan/Lightning Lord.
Arbiter-Generals are said to be comparable to Lord Ravagers.
Lygus, a fragment of Zandar, alongside Irontomb are implied to be initially comparable as well.

The only exceptions to the scaling would be completed Irontomb and Fuli Cyerne because they clearly stronger than they were initially and as Black Swan said comparable to Aeons.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

You are correct I think I was misinterpreting the statement. Also with the supporting evidence from Black Swan, Herta, and Evernight (even Welt's statement) I think it's safe to conclude that Emanators are generally comparable. Which aligns narratively otherwise the Destruction would've already won.

Besides if Acheron can destroy a manifestation of IX, which is just essentially one of IX's Avatars, then I don't see why other Emanators cannot do something comparable. This should be comparable to Phainon's feat and just a step behind what Irontomb was planning to do.

Herta connected with the mind of Nous, intending to redefine their instants but ultimately didn't need to.
Dominicus is just said to be equal to Acheron, along with Jing Yuan/Lightning Lord.
Arbiter-Generals are said to be comparable to Lord Ravagers.
Lygus, a fragment of Zandar, alongside Irontomb are implied to be initially comparable as well.

The only exceptions to the scaling would be completed Irontomb and Fuli Cyerne because they clearly stronger than they were initially and as Black Swan said comparable to Aeons.

Yeah Irontomb specifically had a statement where

Incomplete = Lord Ravager level

Complete = Outputs levels beyond that of Emanators, including Lord Ravagers and Zephyro

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Summary of this thread?

 

[Community_Gamer]

Yeah Irontomb specifically had a statement where

Incomplete = Lord Ravager level

Complete = Outputs levels beyond that of Emanators, including Lord Ravagers and Zephyro

Yeah I recall it was specifically the virus that already existed previous to Amphoreus arc that was clocked at Lord Ravager level.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Summary of this thread?

I need this so when I called the other staffs, they will have an easier time to evaluate this thread

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

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Literally the OP. It's not that complicated.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Literally the OP. It's not that complicated.

Mind if you tag some staff? id love this to be finished so i can also re establish the scaling chain between the two games, since hi3 profiles still have 3-C+ from like 6 months ago

 

[PedjaTarzan]

bump

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

@Qawsedf234 @DarkDragonMedeus @Maverick_Zero_X @Planck69 Could you help evaluate this CRT?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Could you help evaluate this CRT?

I agree with your proposal. If a character is rated at 1-B no one other than other 1-B characters can scale to that form. Either everyone is upgraded or everyone rated at 3-B gets downgraded and the latter seems more likely.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

B-U-M-P

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

wowza someone said that finally
tho i dont know how legitimate it is, like.. incinerating galaxies with trillions if not more lives just out of rage goes against everything Phainon stands for but maybe its just me

The fight took place in path space

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Bump

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Bump

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

B-U-M-P

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

@Vietthai96 @UchihaSlayer96 @Elizhaa Could You help out with these pls?

 

[Vietthai96]

I agree with your proposal. If a character is rated at 1-B no one other than other 1-B characters can scale to that form. Either everyone is upgraded or everyone rated at 3-B gets downgraded and the latter seems more likely.

Same opinion with this

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

@Vietthai96 @UchihaSlayer96 @Elizhaa Could You help out with these pls?

So, since it was accepted now, Emanators and those at their level are 3-C (10.53 Zettafoe), while 4-A (1.053 Zettafoe) characters are downscaling that value 10x via Cornerstone, but I am still confused what LS should be downgraded for, it is Class Y or Class G?

 

[SuperNova55555]

So, since it was accepted now, Emanators and those at their level are 3-C (10.53 Zettafoe), while 4-A (1.053 Zettafoe) characters are downscaling that value 10x via Cornerstone, but I am still confused what LS should be downgraded for, it is Class Y or Class G?

Pretty sure we need 1 more vote

 

[Qawsedf234]

Pretty sure we need 1 more vote

That's for Tier 1 revisions, not for Tier 3:

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[SuperNova55555]

That's for Tier 1 revisions, not for Tier 3:

Doesn’t this technically affect the 1-B ratings of the other Emanators though? Or does it not affect them in a way the rules care about?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Doesn’t this technically affect the 1-B ratings of the other Emanators though? Or does it not affect them in a way the rules care about?

The 1-Bs were never targeted for this thread. Just those who were scaled to 3-B through a 1-B character.

 

[SuperNova55555]

The 1-Bs were never targeted for this thread. Just those who were scaled to 3-B through a 1-B character.

Oh yeaa. Haven’t been in this thread for a while so kinda forgot. I mean it’s fine regardless idrc

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Since it is settled then, can I apply the changes?

 

[Elizhaa]

Changes seem fine to applied, yes.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Ok, I will apply the changes then. Just looking at the number of profiles I'll have to apply the changes to makes me lazy, but someone's gotta do it, right?

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

I'll apply the changes tomorrow, I need to sleep

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Could a staff member please unlock Acheron's profile? As long as it's locked, I won't be able to apply the changes to it.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So, since it was accepted now, Emanators and those at their level are 3-C (10.53 Zettafoe), while 4-A (1.053 Zettafoe) characters are downscaling that value 10x via Cornerstone, but I am still confused what LS should be downgraded for, it is Class Y or Class G?

Class Y should be fine for those on Ambrosia Phantylia's level. But for the rest, they should stick to Class G.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Class Y should be fine for those on Ambrosia Phantylia's level. But for the rest, they should stick to Class G.

Understood, also, you can unlock Acheron's profile to apply the changes?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Understood, also, you can unlock Acheron's profile to apply the changes?

Bro is a thread mod, not content mod

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Don't forget the HI3 profiles since some of them do scale to this, just a reminder.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Don't forget the HI3 profiles since some of them do scale to this, just a reminder.

HI3 is so dead that they still scale to galaxy + rn

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

I've finished applying all the changes; this thread can be closed