Hongou Hina upgrade (Powers and abilities and stat amp)

[XxZetsuxX]

The new chapter came and i believe she should recieve more abilities, so let's get into it;

Powers and abilities;

Genius Combatant- So far in the series, i believe she has showed more than enough feats + narrative + statements to put her in the genius realm, i did not put her at a genius tier because i was not sure (check her skill feat list and her intelligence section) - Only BIQ, her intel stays the same

Power Mimicry - Copied Tenma Nozomi counter attack with her own twist with a perfect timing

Stats amp moves;
I am not so sure about this one, but i will give it a try anyway;

So basically, there's a move that Yuzuha Lee does that when using the wall, her attack will be 2x stronger, the move in question

Hina will be Massively upscaling (one shot worthy (i think?) 202 MJ) since she scales to 101 MJ, with her Rikudou: Sunder Heaven, which one shotted Yuzuha Lee

So her stats should look like this;

Attack Potency: Small Building Level (101 MJ - Upscales massively this feat done by a fodder character, should be comparable albeit weaker physically than Sena Riko who did this), Higher with Rikudou: Sunder Heaven (Massively upscales 202 MJ - One shotted Yuzuha Lee)

And now, i also want to make a case for the speed, though this is the part where i am not sure

Sunder Heaven is a move which one shotted Yuzuha Lee and is also a move that is pure KE, so i believe the 2x multiplier for AP should be fine, what i don't know if the same can be said for speed

Kinetic energy is a thing in the verse, i don't know if this helps with it

But basically, i am proposing this for her;

Speed: Subsonic (Baseline - She completely blitzed a fighter capable of attacking at 50 Km/H casually and also called her a "slowpoke", Able to create after images with sheer speed), Likely Far Higher, Higher with with Rikudou: Sunder Heaven (68,6 m/s - Blitzed Yuzuha Lee)

Agree - FinePoint

Disagree -

Neutral -

 

[FinePoint]

The new chapter came and i believe she should recieve more abilities, so let's get into it;

Powers and abilities;

Genius Combatant- So far in the series, i believe she has showed more than enough feats + narrative + statements to put her in the genius realm, i did not put her at a genius tier because i was not sure (check her skill feat list and her intelligence section) - Only BIQ, her intel stays the same

I don't know the series, so I can't really comment on this- so I'm officially neutral.

Power Mimicry - Copied Tenma Nozomi counter attack with her own twist with a perfect timing

Agree.

Stats amp moves;
I am not so sure about this one, but i will give it a try anyway;

So basically, there's a move that Yuzuha Lee does that when using the wall, her attack will be 2x stronger, the move in question

Hina will be Massively upscaling (one shot worthy (i think?) 202 MJ) since she scales to 101 MJ, with her Rikudou: Sunder Heaven, which one shotted Yuzuha Lee

I don't think this is a statistical amp that's scalable.
It seems to be just a simple and logical use of physics that hitting someone against a wall will hurt more.

Speed: Subsonic (Baseline - She completely blitzed a fighter capable of attacking at 50 Km/H casually and also called her a "slowpoke", Able to create after images with sheer speed), Likely Far Higher, Higher with with Rikudou: Sunder Heaven (68,6 m/s - Blitzed Yuzuha Lee)

Seems fine to me.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I don't know the series, so I can't really comment on this- so I'm officially neutral.

For this part, I am basing on the fact that she was trained to pro levels as a kid, Karura also regards her as a monster after seeing Hina walking past her, Defeated Yuzuha lee who comes from slaughter colosseum, an arena which is leagues above Valkyria (where Hina resides) with Valkyria having a national boxing champ and got fodderized

I don't think this is a statistical amp that's scalable.
It seems to be just a simple and logical use of physics that hitting someone against a wall will hurt more.

The manga panel explicity states that her strenght was doubled, the strenght doubled because the impact was not dispersed because of the wall, I don't think theres any problem with this imo XD

 

[FinePoint]

For this part, I am basing on the fact that she was trained to pro levels as a kid, Karura also regards her as a monster after seeing Hina walking past her, Defeated Yuzuha lee who comes from slaughter colosseum, an arena which is leagues above Valkyria (where Hina resides) with Valkyria having a national boxing champ and got fodderized

The manga panel explicity states that her strenght was doubled, the strenght doubled because the impact was not dispersed because of the wall, I don't think theres any problem with this imo XD

Indeed, it explicitly states that the strength of the attack was doubled because the wall did not let the impact disperse.

Therefore, it doesn't affect the character's actual inherent strength.

If a character upscales from that character they should probably scale from their base strength, not the maximum damage they can possibly do in an attack with environmental assistance.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Indeed, it explicitly states that the strength of the attack was doubled because the wall did not let the impact disperse.

Therefore, it doesn't affect the character's actual inherent strength.

Therefore, if a character upscales from that character they should probably scale from their base strength, not the maximum damage they can possibly do in an attack with environmental assistance.

Yuzuha Lee's (the one who attacked the muscular girl) attacks were not doing any notable damage to Sena Riko, Riko only started feeling pain and vomiting blood when Yuzuha Lee used her technique "Fa Jin" which basically increases her AP (stats amp basically), The wall just made the impact stronger due to not dispersing the impact

This helps? If not rip ;-;

 

[FinePoint]

Yuzuha Lee's (the one who attacked the muscular girl) attacks were not doing any notable damage to Sena Riko, Riko only started feeling pain and vomiting blood when Yuzuha Lee used her technique "Fa Jin" which basically increases her AP (stats amp basically), The wall just made the impact stronger due to not dispersing the impact

This helps? If not rip ;-;

I might be misunderstanding something.

They weren't doing notable damage UNTIL they used the wall?
With the same attack?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I might be missing something.

They weren't doing notable damage UNTIL they used the wall?
With the same attack?

Yeah

 

[XxZetsuxX]

 

[FinePoint]

Yeah

I see. In that case I understand what you're saying. My apologies.

The character who withstood the base attack but not the 2x attack would have to be somewhere in-between then, but not actually 2x.

So I think you should list an At Least and At Most between the 2x range for their durability, no?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I see. In that case I understand what you're saying. My apologies.

The character who withstood the base attack but not the 2x attack would have to be somewhere in-between then, but not actually 2x.

So I think you should list an At Least and At Most between the 2x range for their durability, no?

Sena Riko doesn't have a profile currently, Or you mean, I put at least or at most 202 MJ in their durability of the entire cast?

Riko is arguably the most durable of the main cast due to her body so mabye it would only scale to her idk?

So, I take it you changed your mind ;-;?

 

[FinePoint]

Sena Riko doesn't have a profile currently, Or you mean, I put at least or at most 202 MJ in their durability of the entire cast?

Riko is arguably the most durable of the main cast due to her body so mabye it would only scale to her idk?

So, I take it you changed your mind ;-;?

I believe it would only change Riko's durability, correct.
They can have "at Most 202MJ" for enduring the regular hit and surviving the second.

Any other changes would have to spiral from that, so if they don't have a profile you might want to make it to complete the scaling chain.