High 1-A Question

[Another_Council]

Do you need to transcend an infinitely-layered outerversal hierarchy and any expansions of it to achieve High 1-A? Or do you simply need to be above any extension of it with the hierarchy being, like, 20 layers in?

 

[Rikimarox2]

The latter.

 

[Arcker123]

Would the former also be H1A?

 

[Hasty12345]

Read through these and if you still have any questions don't be afraid to just ask,

https://vsbattles.com/threads/question-about-high-1-a.116613/

https://vsbattles.com/threads/how-to-get-1-a.116452/#post-3763587

Probably the best example of a high 1-A upgrade thread on the website IMO, lots to learn here,

https://vsbattles.com/threads/unsong-introduction-thread-sorta.108443/

 

[Another_Council]

Thanks, and yeah it is, it's the example that the Tiering System uses.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Would the former also be H1A?

Yes. Both of the examples will be H1A.

 

[Another_Council]

Read through these and if you still have any questions don't be afraid to just ask,

https://vsbattles.com/threads/question-about-high-1-a.116613/

https://vsbattles.com/threads/how-to-get-1-a.116452/#post-3763587

Probably the best example of a high 1-A upgrade thread on the website IMO, lots to learn here,

https://vsbattles.com/threads/unsong-introduction-thread-sorta.108443/

Well, the threads seem to be dealing with an infinitely-layered outerversal cosmology and being outside of any expansions of it. I'm just wondering if a character can achieve the same effect with being outside of the expansions of a countably layered outerversal hierarchy.

 

[Hasty12345]

Well, the threads seem to be dealing with an infinitely-layered outerversal cosmology and being outside of any expansions of it. I'm just wondering if a character can achieve the same effect with being outside of the expansions of a countably layered outerversal hierarchy.

yes, however proving it would be incredibly difficult.

Another example that may be useful is the Creator from Umineko, from my understanding is "it" is boundless on the basis it has no restrictions when compared to a high 1-A character (Featherine), which effectively implies no such extension of a high 1-A structure would ever surpass the Creator.

The same logic (assuming the context permits) could apply to a 1-A character and a high 1-A character.

 

[Another_Council]

I see, thanks a lot for the input.

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

Both works just fine if i remembered correctly.

 

[Danny1112]

Basically, High Outerversal beings are incomprehensible to Outerversal beings. It's a level whereby stacking infinite Outerversal hierarchies won't reach it.

 

[AKUTO123]

If it is more transcendent than the 20-tier hierarchy you mentioned, yes, but higher than the 20-tier hierarchy it would only be no.