Hibiki vs Shinnok

[Gojira1234]

I'm not saying she'd beat him, cuz his AP is ridiculously higher than hers anyway, but she could still nullify his actual abilities probably.

 

[Schnee_One]

She can nullify 1A abilities?

 

[VoidGoji]

His abilities are way above her verse as a whole.

 

[Gojira1234]

Honestly if it's godly, she should be able to nullify it with how they've explained it in the show (not that it's well-explained, admittedly). But knowing 1-A abilities since they're just so highly conceptual, they probably have some kind of counter to her anyway. But Shinnok ain't 1-A. So Hibiki should be able to counter any of his abilities.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I'm not saying she'd beat him, cuz his AP is ridiculously higher than hers anyway, but she could still nullify his actual abilities probably.

Then can she null Methuselah abilities? As SZS supporters, i really find this ridiculous.

 

[Gojira1234]

Well the way they leave it so open-ended with her abilities, it's hard to even tell what her limits are.

 

[Schnee_One]

It's easy to tell

What's the best thing she nullified?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

The first is sarcastic since Hibiki will get mindhaxed before started.

Well, i say Shinnok take this then after i thinking it, since BFR and teleport is the problem for Hibiki and touch amulet=sealed quicker.

 

[Schnee_One]

Wait a second

<Range: Standard Melee Range

She can't nullify his abilities at all even if she could with that range.

 

[Gojira1234]

It's easy to tell

What's the best thing she nullified?

Hibiki's best showing of nullification thus far is her being able to completely kill Yohualtepuztli, which can revive itself infinitely by using versions of itself from parallel universes (confirming a multiverse in Symphogear), and bringing those parallel selves into the current universe it's fighting in. But due to its divine nature, Hibiki was able to completely kill it across the multiverse.

 

[Schnee_One]

That's good and all but

She doesn't actually have the range to affect Shinnoks sealing

 

[Gojira1234]

But what does her range matter when she's dealt with planetary range enemies in the past?

 

[Schnee_One]

Her getting sealed before she can use her range and her range not being big enough to actually get out of the seal

And who are these enemies?

 

[Gojira1234]

The main villain of season 1, Finé, has planetary range.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Finé_(Senki_Zesshou_Symphgear)

If anyone want to know who is Fine.

 

[Blahblah9755]

@Schnee One Basically, Hibiki's gauntlets/symphogear are a conceptual weapon imbued with the concept of deicide, and because of that she can destroy powers that have the concept of divinity.

If she can't punch the enemy or power though, it's no good, and if the power isn't divine (like the ones Shinnok's profile says he's copied from Quan Chi) it'd be no good.

That's why my vote goes firmly to Shinnok.

 

[Gojira1234]

Which powers are Quan Chi's that Shinnok uses often?

 

[Schnee_One]

Literally everything, he's kinda powered by him

 

[Gojira1234]

But my only problem is that, yes it's somebody else's power, but Shinnok is still channeling it right? Then shouldn't it still be godly in nature since it's coming from Shinnok?

 

[Schnee_One]

No, using someone else's power does not inheritantly make that power divine

Shinnok is also a fallen god, so IDK if he can still be considered divine

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

bump

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

bump

 

[Kredory]

Shinnok via sealing

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

bump

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

bump

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

boi

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

bump

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

bump

Shinnok got downgraded but AP really doesn't matter since she always oneshots while Shinnok doesn't really use AP off the bat.