Heatblast AP Addition

[Firestorm808]

Heatblast

Hey! Why don't you pick on someone with real firepower?Heatblast while fighting Vilgax's Drones Heatblast is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Pyronite from the planet-like star Pyros. Tier: High 6-A, possibly Low 5-B, higher when "Supernova Hot" | 5-C, possibly Low 5-B, higher when "Supernova Hot"...

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Ben 10: Heatblast Feat Recalcs

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Ignoring any scaling to physicals, the feats should still apply to AP via Fire/Heat Manipulation similar to other Fire/Heat manipulators on this site.

We would have the following:

At least 8-C physically. Up to Low 7-C via Fire Manipulation | High 8-C physically. Up to Low 7-C via Fire Manipulation

What do you guys think?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I think you should reword it to “low 7-C with Supernova Hot” that should be fine.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Where is the Low 7-C feat? The link in the OP leads to an 8-A feat for Heatblast.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Here.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Thanks, the update looks fine then.

 

[Firestorm808]

Where is the Low 7-C feat? The link in the OP leads to an 8-A feat for Heatblast.

Sorry about that. Fixed the OP.

 

[Firestorm808]

Thanks for the input. I'll make the edits soon.

 

[Firestorm808]

Done.

Heatblast

Heatblast is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Pyronite from the planet-like star Pyros. Tier: 5-A, higher when "Supernova Hot" | 5-A, higher when "Supernova Hot" Keys: Original Series | Ultimate Alien, Omniverse Name: Heatblast Origin: Ben 10 Classification: Alien, Pyronite Powers and Abilities...

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[Greenshifter]

Isn't there a tier calc 6 for this?
Also teen HB should scale to this with casual heat.

 

[Firestorm808]

@Greenshifter I'm not aware of that calculation.

 

[Greenshifter]

Ben 10: Various Heatblast Feats

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Ben 10 (Classic): Heatblast dissipate SAM

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[Firestorm808]

I believe those are the outdated calcs.

 

[Greenshifter]

I believe those are the outdated calcs.

DD's is the most recent one. Anyways I ain't a calc guy, if the main problem is taking the supernova statement literally then you know where to find me.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Also teen HB should scale to this with casual heat.

Why would he?

 

[Greenshifter]

Why would he?

I’ll give the scaling chain tomorrow

 

[Greenshifter]

Ok so after Kid HB got captured by Vilgax, he melted the thing made to contain him and went really serious yet wasn’t able to do shit against Vilgax to the point he had to resort to indirectly incapacitating him.

Alan Albright managed to push away Vilgax with a single fire blast in AF S3E1, implying his fire is more potent than kid HB as well as just generally scaling higher than him.

Alan Albright just noped out of his beam struggle with Big Chill once the latter got serious, meaning he was basically at his limit (supernova hot) against a casual Big Chill.

Ult. Big Chill > BC and NRG > BC cause BC couldn’t fully freeze P’andor.

Bivalvan could withstand P’andor heating up his own armor to burn the former’s arm and Swamps (Albedo’s actor guy) couldn’t do anything against NRG’s armor.

Teen HB casually broke out of Ult. BC’s ice after it was used to contain Ghostfreak.

Teen HB can’t harm Tetrax 23 (still need to research on this)

Ult. Swampfire can vaporize DH’s crystal shards, who’s heat resistance should scale to Tetrax 23.

AF Vilgax can withstand Ult. Swampfire’s heat and regular Swampfire can still somewhat burn Vilgax.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Ok so after Kid HB got captured by Vilgax, he melted the thing made to contain him and went really serious yet wasn’t able to do shit against Vilgax to the point he had to resort to indirectly incapacitating him.

Ok so as a reference for others to see, you’re talking about this scene right here.

Anyway, Supernova Hot, which I’ll call SNH for short, has only been shown on two occasions. Both instances show that heat and range, and sometimes velocity, are needed to perform SNH; the range is a large part of the reason it’s low 7-C after all. So in this instance, against Vilgax, where’s the feat or statement that shows Heatblast is SNH other than assumptions?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Yeah, looking at the videos, I'm going to agree with Zamasu Chan. There seems to be a clear distinction between SNH and Heatblast's regular attacks.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Yeah, looking at the videos, I'm going to agree with Zamasu Chan. There seems to be a clear distinction between SNH and Heatblast's regular attacks.

The changes were made anyway so this should probably be closed.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Alright. Since the changes were made, I'll close this.