Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

[Alexander]

"Unknown, Possibly 6-C Enviromental destruction" is what i see in your future

Wait is that low to flood a entire planet?I thought it was at least multi-continental at minimum

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Wait is that low to flood a entire planet?

True, it's multi-cont+. I just guessed whatever tier flooding was and i'm glad i got something close

 

[ShionAH]

 

[ShionAH]

For my case, I think we can still have Tier 5 Adam.

Lucifer can survive the absorption of his energy from MoL, since he is being hurt Id guess this could scale his durability to the beam. I am not sure but if Lucifer keeps his Tier 5 durability then Adam too since he scales above Lucifer's durability.

Otherwise Lucifer also used his magic to attack Adam, so it could be argued that would scale him to Tier 5. Since his magic should logically scale off his energy.

Also we need a Chaz profile, that influencing is peak

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Guys quick look.

We finally have some form of scaling for the Deadly Sins.

Hazbin hotel powerscalers.
They'd rather shaky word of god to give tiers than the actual show, THEY'RE SPOILED!

 

[OmenISTIRED]

Wait did you got this from Spamparos?

Yes.

 

[OmenISTIRED]

"Unknown, Possibly 6-C Enviromental destruction (Word of god says that Leviathan can probably flood an entire ring of hell)" is what i see in your future

She said probably would, Not could.

So that does imply she atleast can.

Though i would be fine listing it as "Possibly" whatever tier flooding a hole ring would be
(Checked and flooding the whole earth would be Multi Con+ or 25Exatons so it would be like a 7th of that)

 

[DarkLock92]

I am not sure but if Lucifer keeps his Tier 5 durability then Adam too since he scales above Lucifer's durability.

Explain thyself

 

[Alexander]

Hazbin hotel powerscalers.
They'd rather shaky word of god to give tiers than the actual show, THEY'RE SPOILED!

I mean Lucifer broke Heaven's barrier with his power through the Might of Lilith (and we aren't given them the Universe level)

 

[ShionAH]

Explain thyself

Angelic Weapons: Haha we pierce Lucifer and Archangels easily- ADAM, ADAM LEND US YOUR STRENGHT THIS IS ALASTORS SHIELD WE ARE UP AGAINST

Alasto + Adam upscale

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Alastor + Adam upscale

ShionAH...saying Alastor upscale

(He's only saying this cuz it upscales his goat)

 

[ShionAH]

Can I just say, this last short was easily my favorite? It was ******* hilarious

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I mean Lucifer broke Heaven's barrier with his power through the Might of Lilith (and we aren't given them the Universe level)

Lucifer >>> Featless Bums
Onscreen feat >>> WoG

 

[ShionAH]

ShionAH...saying Alastor upscale

 

[DarkLock92]

Angelic Weapons: Haha we pierce Lucifer and Archangels easily- ADAM, ADAM LEND US YOUR STRENGHT THIS IS ALASTORS SHIELD WE ARE UP AGAINST

Alasto + Adam upscale

You do remember that Adam with a full tackle only managed to make Lucifer grunt right?
Unless this is an April fools's joke and I fell for it

 

[ShionAH]

You do remember that Adam with a full tackle only managed to make Lucifer grunt right?

Point out a flaw in my argument

 

[DarkLock92]

Point out a flaw in my argument

Your argument is that Adam's AP is above Lucifer's durability, but we have an on-screen showing of Adam's physical attacks barely doing anything to Lu.

 

[DaReaperMan]

By the way Shion is the gas tank of a car 9-B for being able to propel the car forward?

 

[ShionAH]

Your argument is that Adam's AP is above Lucifer's durability, but we have an on-screen showing of Adam's physical attacks barely doing anything to Lu.

All of Adam’s punches were literally dodged. I an pretty sure tackling someone is way weaker than a good ol’ blow

 

[DarkLock92]

"Unknown, Possibly 6-C Enviromental destruction (Word of god says that Leviathan can probably flood an entire ring of hell)" is what i see in your future

"Save the Sin Society, Mammon!"

 

[DaReaperMan]

All of Adam’s punches were literally dodged. I an pretty sure tackling someone is way weaker than a good ol’ blow

...


For a human tackles can get up to like 6 kilojoules in KE.

 

[DarkLock92]

All of Adam’s punches were literally dodged. I an pretty sure tackling someone is way weaker than a good ol’ blow

Not when you that much bigger, heavier, and supposedly have the AP advantage

Also this is what AWs did to Adam:

 

[ShionAH]

Not when you that much bigger, heavier, and supposedly have the AP advantage

Again, Lucifer DID avoid all his blows

Also this is what AWs did to Adam:

I guess Adam was never a tank but a brawler, unfortunate. Also this FURTHER proves my point, AWs could instantly kill Adam unlike the dozens of punches Lucifer threw WITH MAGIC.

If Lucifers stats scale then so will Adam, if Lucifers magic scale then so will Adam. Thats all.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Oh, magic? Nah you need a non-physical energy system to prove Lucifer's fire magic scales to his big **** off Beams.

 

[DarkLock92]

Again, Lucifer DID avoid all his blows

Deadass I think it was mostly to ragebait Adam even more, but that's semantics at this point.

I guess Adam was never a tank but a brawler, unfortunate. Also this FURTHER proves my point, AWs could instantly kill Adam unlike the dozens of punches Lucifer threw WITH MAGIC.

If Lucifers stats scale then so will Adam, if Lucifers magic scale then so will Adam. Thats all.

I'm not saying I don't think Adam downscaled Lucifer in physical stats, he definitely does. I'm saying I don't believe any of Adam's stats are above Lucifer's.

As for magic, we'll see what the future holds.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Also this FURTHER proves my point, AWs could instantly kill Adam unlike the dozens of punches Lucifer threw WITH MAGIC.

Lucifer's light energy could also turn Might of Lilith's entire dome of angelic steel to dust too, so it does seem like he's a glass cannon.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Oh, magic? Nah you need a non-physical energy system to prove Lucifer's fire magic scales to his big **** off Beams.

Pretty sure Lucifer's magic and his light would two different energy systems anyway, like being in contact with Angelic Steel nullifies the former but does nothing to the latter.

 

[ShionAH]

I think it was mostly to ragebait Adam

Bro Charlie almost died and Hotel got destroyed by the beam he dodged, if he could facetank it why wouldn’t he?? Does he hate Charlie?? Is this a Lucifer W?? Goatcifer?

I'm not saying I don't think Adam downscaled Lucifer in physical stats, he definitely does. I'm saying I don't believe any of Adam's stats are above Lucifer's.

Fair, Vivzie messed up ngl

 

[DaReaperMan]

Keep in mind, as it stands you'd first have to prove Lucifer's even taking 5-B hits from the MoL, cause if you can't... and trust me you can't, a thing shooting doesn't need to be able to take that sort of hit, see every firearm since their invention...

Pretty sure Lucifer's magic and his light would two different energy systems anyway, like being in contact with Angelic Steel nullifies the former but does nothing to the latter.

Probably yeah, and really that just further separates his beams to his physicals.

@ShionAH Oh, and even if Adam kept 5-B physicals I'd still nerf his beams to Low 7-C

 

[DaReaperMan]

Though, now that i think of it, there is one way to get Adam to keep 5-B beams and whatnot if that pans out...

Simply give Alastor scaling to Adam's physicals in durability and magic!

 

[DarkLock92]

Bro Charlie almost died and Hotel got destroyed by the beam he dodged, if he could facetank it why wouldn’t he?? Does he hate Charlie?? Is this a Lucifer W?? Goatcifer?

Is this the face of a man who's taking his opponent seriously? He was messing around because he's a goofball who's wants to humiliate Adam and doesn't think his actions through, which is very in-character for him

Fair, Vivzie messed up ngl

I don't really see why tbh

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Though, now that i think of it, there is one way to get Adam to keep 5-B beams and whatnot if that pans out...

Simply give Alastor scaling to Adam's physicals in durability and magic!

 

[ShionAH]

@ShionAH Oh, and even if Adam kept 5-B physicals I'd still nerf his beams to Low 7-C

Illogical, Adam’s beams threaten Lucifer who is above Adam physically also this would literally destroy the profile I worked so hard to build. Unuseable

Is this the face of a man who's taking his opponent seriously?

He quite literally takes a serious expression when Adam starts charging his beam, dodges and it almost kills Charlie and destroys the Hotel. Is Lucifer so dumb he didn’t think what was behind him?? Why wouldn’t he facetank it to protect Charlie and her Hotel?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Illogical, Adam’s beams threaten Lucifer who is above Adam physically

Oh, and does Adam not dodge one of Alastor's tentacle swings?

He quite literally takes a serious expression when Adam starts charging his beam, dodges and it almost kills Charlie and destroys the Hotel. Is Lucifer so dumb he didn’t think what was behind him?? Why wouldn’t he facetank it to protect Charlie and her Hotel?

This is the same guy who mistakes "**** you up" and "**** you", and then forgets what he was saying not ten seconds later. Not exactly the peak of intelligence.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Wouldn’t nuking UES simply mean that Lucifer's beams are the only thing that is 5-B? Or am I missing smth

 

[Mythic381]

AWs could instantly kill Adam unlike the dozens of punches Lucifer threw WITH MAGIC.

AWs are supposedly way more potent than any Angel we've seen to be fair. It was also a piercing attack rather than a blunt one.

This does make me question on how we would truly rate Lute's angelic arm.

 

[DarkLock92]

Wouldn’t nuking UES simply mean that Lucifer's beams are the only thing that is 5-B? Or am I missing smth

Might of Lilith too

 

[DaReaperMan]

Wouldn’t nuking UES simply mean that Lucifer's beams are the only thing that is 5-B? Or am I missing smth

Shion's logic here is that because Lucifer tanks being a battery for the MoL, he scales to his own beams.

Keep in mind, as it stands you'd first have to prove Lucifer's even taking 5-B hits from the MoL, cause if you can't... and trust me you can't, a thing shooting doesn't need to be able to take that sort of hit, see every firearm since their invention...

This is my refutation to that tho

 

[DarkLock92]

This does make me question on how we would truly rate Lute's angelic arm.

Problem is, the only time Lute uses it, she only manages to crack a wall

 

[DaReaperMan]

Problem is, the only time Lute uses it, she only manages to crack a wall

Truly the most 8-B character among them