I think my main problem is Sera didn't create the shield excepting Hell to shoot it with a fcking cannon, it was supposed to be similar to the one in the Pride Ring to stop people from exiting or entering you know? She was also not there to like support her shield which makes it even more dubious
like i said, feel free to scale her as you wish
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She's never been the most haxed character, mainly relying on brute force besides in base where she's thrown one firework explosion (Hence why Al and Adam are the matchup merchants of the Verse)
I was planning on giving her Energy Manipulation and Limited Forcefield Generation but i was mentally done with source editing and posted what i had
Entirely fair, I ain't one to shy away from the mental agony that is actually working with wiki-code
All i can think of is Conditional Social influencing Via Broadway Force ("Ready for this" "Hear my hope") maybe but that's really it.
I wouldn't consider it conditional, since Social Influence is a conditional ability to begin with and it all just connects to Charlie's charisma.
It would be a resistance to all the hax Angelic Weapons have, but I think the biggest issue is the fact we dont have the actual quote for the scan
Only reason i say conditional is she only really gets it by singing but i guess that's fair. I'll add it later
damn...
Is some sort of hax Charlie would get for conjuring a rainbow from her papers in "Hell is forever"?
Light manipulation I guess?
A rainbow occurs when light bends to seperate it into different colors, so limited light manipulation
Limited light manipulation it is, thanks ya'll.
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i see this as an absolute winIf Tier 5 Hazbin goes through, the vs battles wiki slander will be generational
Oh boo hoo, shall I play them a song on the world's smallest violin? We don't care what other sites think, if they want to mald over this they can damn well come here and debate it.If Tier 5 Hazbin goes through, the vs battles wiki slander will be generational
You're right, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't find it annoying to see.
"fraudalent"Charlie's "Done", as i've posted it. Patchup work is inevitable and i'll get to work on Emily
I've spent most of my day on this fraudulent MC so i'm gonna eat now, feel free to add on or reword some stuff on it if you want to help out. Like i said, i'm hungry and my brain is partially fired from source editing
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Charlie's "Done", as i've posted it. Patchup work is inevitable and i'll get to work on Emily
I've spent most of my day on this fraudulent MC so i'm gonna eat now, feel free to add on or reword some stuff on it if you want to help out. Like i said, i'm hungry and my brain is partially fired from source editing
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In what reality???? I know she landed a hit on Adam but Charlie is actively on "hates fighting" grindset, what does she even do for that to qualify?
Do we also give Alastor that off exorcists splattering on his forcefield? Making sure we're consistent there.
Unironically original profile diff. She's still better than an average person (shown to handle a large group fight decently and is fairly good at dodging) but yeah she's nothing crazy
Honestly I'm pretty sure her pitchfork just has angelic steel so it probably doesn't matter. Our angel profiles don't have regeneration nor invulnerability so having them make themselves bleed by being stupid would technically be possible with what's currently there
Gonna be honest, not even I can make arguments on why that's the case. But hey I didn't touch the profile lol
Original profile diff, though Blizzard argued she's at least above average
No we don't but that's a different case. The exorcists blooding from Al's shield is moreover an Anti-feat for invulnerability that we've since removed while Charlie's Pitchfork seems to emminate angelic power like an angelic weapon
fairs.
I'm confused on the wording but i'll do my best to respond.
It's evidence is that Charlie's among the powerful demons due to her ability to use magic due to the Vivzie statement about magic so being a powerful demon should mean her striking strength is powerful as well, her fist fight with an Enraged Demon Transformed Katie in base, no magic, holding back is just supportive that she's strong
Yah that's not enough for a "far higher" unless we're arguing Adam's durability is waaaaaay above his AP
I'd remove the Katie stuff, we literally have no basis for how strong she is
I mean...Adam's best feats (Chainscaling wise) with his AP is destroying FP Alastor's Shield, destroying FP Alastor's staff with his laser, and oneshotting weakened Alastor while with his dura he survived Transformed Enraged Lucifer's blows, i can 100% get behind his dura being over his AP and i'm pretty sure it's gonna be a talking point of the upcoming crt
Fair enough
Katie stuff and the transformation tabber was removed (Plus a bit extra)
Loooooooool, Emily has even less and is like...the least combat skilled characters that isn't nameless fodder or random overlords.
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Give me proof, Shion. Not "well they SHOULD--"
Angel's cant be killed normally, you know the whole Angelic Weapon deal?? Tf? Do you want Invulnerability back or sum?
Interesting thought process, i wouldn't quite contest it much for Emily maybe (only time she's suffered a true blow was when she got lasers and that regen negs) but wasn't Charlie was covered in blood after getting back handed by adam? Iirc, she didn't seem to heal like the goetia did
Yeah they can.
No, it's durability. Which was what was accepted. And applied. In my CRT.
It's just an AP thing, angels be strong
except that, why would they even say they are invincible if they are just like the sinners...?
