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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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Eden_Warlock99
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Exorcists are stone walls fr (9-B AP and 5-B durability)
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There's a reason why I said "proper" hits. Me "hitting" a fly isn't exactly the same as actually punching.
It can be just magical sealing thingy for Sinners or perception. Either way it does not mean that Hell is a solar system, since we see that its interactions are planet.
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I said it "could". It's your burden to disprove the possibility lol.
Anyways, I see how badly this thing is messed up which is indeed confusing, but since we got Hazbin directly interacting with Неаven, I think we have to go off that, since that's the most plot-significant. At least that's me trying to make sense of this lol.
See Vox using Might of Lilith the first time.
DarkLock92
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Bashing someone's head on a table should count as a proper hit.
But it doesn't really matter, Lute got hurt by rubble. I don't see her being a threat to overlords without angelic steel.
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Because Heaven is bigger than hell
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It is your burden to prove that this possibility exists.
It is possible to travel through space from one solar system to another.
It is possible to travel through space from one solar system to another.
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I am not a geometry master, but that is not exactly how gravity works (going down somehow makes you go up????)
Mythic381
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You do realize Carmilla had the Angelic steel embedded into her boots right? And she uses her legs for fighting, so by doing her move she just dismembered the exorcist.
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Yeah, and that's what I meant by one-shot.
So invincible here means Tier 9? Do you mean to say that Tier 5 Vees hide in their tower from Tier 9 Exorcists? Are we serious?
NO amount of Lute disrespect will be tolerated.
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And she was harming Vaggie without them. Your point?
DarkLock92
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That's not really a one-shot but fine.
Ask the writers, I'm not the one who added that scene.
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She was literally laying on her knees, nosebleeding, hopeless and only was able to do something because of spear & environment.
DarkLock92
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Vaggie got her head bashed in, hit Lute with a piece of rock:
Then the video cuts and they fight off screen, and then Lute subdues Vaggie.
Mythic381
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??? How is that related to what I said? Exorcists can be harmed without Angelic weapons, you still need them to kill exorcists, and in that instance there was 3 exorcists that were going to kill her and her daughters, so the logical approach is to kill them, you aren't going to restrain 3 blood-thirsty exorcists without killing them.
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Seems really outlierish given how Lute curbstomped her. Like Pentious enduring FP Alastor's explosion.
Lute also one-shotted her in their second fight.
They are explicitly called as "indestructable" many times and everyone, even Carmilla, says that Exorcists are used to not being harmed. Come on.
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same indestructible excorists that are rock victims
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I mean Invulnurebility is pretty contradicted but the point is that even Overlord considers them unable to be harmed, and this is consistent with all of Exorcists keeping themselves real quite during Extermination, so...
Mythic381
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Because they quite literally aren't? For all sinner's knowledge, no one has tried fighting back against them.
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Ohhhh, so all of Overlords were totally capable of beating the crap out of them in no-low diff, but apparently couldn't do that because they are flipping morons who never even tried... I wonder where "they can't be harmed" even comes from, if nobody even tried!
Also, my point was that you are trying to twist indestructability statements into unkillability statements.
DarkLock92
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Lute got hurt by falling rubble, if anything her being a threat to overlords is the outlier here.
Kicked her out of the sky and didn't even make her bleed. Plus they clashed weapons somewhat evenly for a bit.
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Which makes them look like iditos
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Right, Luetinant of Exorcists, the ones that Overlords and everyone consider indestructable and unable to be harmed, is a 9-B victim who gets negged by your lowest Overlord and can be probably killed by an IMP!
She literally got her on knees with a single kick and was about to kill if not for Abel.
Y'all gotta be purposefully downplaying Lute. I'm tired boss.
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What would genuinely happen to the entire Exorcists army united in one (9-B victims) if a random Overlord (Tier 5-6) accidentally shot them in self-defense:
Mythic381
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I never said low-diff, I don't disagree with them scaling to sinners and overlords, but they aren't more powerful than them.
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Back to the point: Carmilla, in the same scene, said that Exorcists are unharmable normally and was harming Vaggie to train her. Is it really that far stretched to say Vaggie lost her priveldges? Seems like a no to me.
DarkLock92
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Again ask the writers why Lute chose to rip off her arm rather than punch the rubble ¯\(ツ)/¯
No blood, no crippling injury, nothing. Yes Vaggie would be dead without Abel, but because she got overpowered not one-shot.
I'm just talking about what I'm seeing on the screen.
Mythic381
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She herself was harming Lute, and it doesn't make sense when someone like Lucifer didn't, and Lucifer himself was punished by the elders, while Vaggie was just stripped of her wings and halo.
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No no no, you were arguing explicitly about durability there. Also:
Plot-Induced Stupidity
Plot-Induced Stupidity, or PIS for short, is a term used to refer to events in a story that contradict a character's normal capabilities for the purpose of the plot. For example, if a generally competent, intelligent villain does something stupid like not killing the hero immediately when he has...
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Why didn't she do anything to fight back and needed Abel to invervene?
And I'm talking about consistency.
Outlierish really.
Lu has specific punishment: he has immense power, has deep hatred of Sinners, yet can't do nothing. Hits different than being just a bum.
Eden_Warlock99
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Looking at her fight with Carmilla again, every hit Vaggie took was in contact with the Angelic Steel.
She doesn't have any anti-feats either and did fight Lute on two whole separate occasions, it's probably fine for her to downscale from Lute.
She doesn't have any anti-feats either and did fight Lute on two whole separate occasions, it's probably fine for her to downscale from Lute.
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Why didn't super-powerful Vaggie help with Might of Lilith then.
Mythic381
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Show me where it's shown any of the exorcist have magical abilities, why would they fight with swords and spears???
DarkLock92
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Ok mb. I just don't really see why their durability would scale so much higher than their AP.
Debatable if it applies here.Also:
Plot-Induced Stupidity
Plot-Induced Stupidity, or PIS for short, is a term used to refer to events in a story that contradict a character's normal capabilities for the purpose of the plot. For example, if a generally competent, intelligent villain does something stupid like not killing the hero immediately when he has...
Because she got overpowered? Getting hit in the gut by a stronger opponent will hurt but it doesn't necessarily one-shot you, especially when you don't show any external damage. Plus Vaggie stood up pretty quick after.Why didn't she do anything to fight back and needed Abel to invervene?
I guess it's a matter of interpretation then, because for me while Lute is shown to be stronger than Vaggie, she's not one-shotting her.
I personally disagree.
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So she is that fodder that she can't even help because she doesn't have magic. Good enough for Vaggie slander to me.
Anyways if she is getting upgraded this is gonna be such a disgrace.
Why does Niffty fight with knife and needles?
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Even reddit caught that lol
Eden_Warlock99
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Mythic381
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Her whole shtick is that she's crazy and likes knives and needles
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