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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

since requesting calcs for feats seems to be going well so far and the Hellaverse is on it's hype train, do you guys know any other Helluva Boss feats I can request from the top of your heads?
 
Alright, I've just had a brain blast and I need y'all to tell me whether I'm cooking or burning the kitchen down, AL with a broken staff was still stronger/at least comparable to Vox, we see Vox losing pretty hard before Shock.wav, but...his staff is still broken, and he is doing far more than he could before, like when he (presumedly) tried turning big or whatever in his 1v3 with the Vees, so I have to ask, isn't that kinda the story telling us that Rosie WAS holding AL back? And if thats the case then doesn't a full power, staff fixed Alastor definitely have more potential? IK all it would do at most is reinforce an "at least" rating, but I thought it was worth asking/bringing up.

TLDR: What if Rosie making AL "the strongest sinner" meant that she TOOK away the power he naturally would have spawned with thanks to his "special" soul, so AL is actually more powerful than we think? Also gives me the ability to say that he was held back against Adam, for more than just his arrogance this time
 
Do you want to say Alastor accidentally nerfed himself while wanting to become stronger in Hell🥀

Honestly, I just think Alastor became “stronger” after breaking deal with Rosie just in a sense that he got more autonomy. He was able to do magic without much struggle probably because he was in Demon Form there.
 
Do you want to say Alastor accidentally nerfed himself while wanting to become stronger in Hell🥀
It would be kinda poetic
Honestly, I just think Alastor became “stronger” after breaking deal with Rosie just in a sense that he got more autonomy. He was able to do magic without much struggle probably because he was in Demon Form there.
Eh, guess we have to wait and see. I asked because the soul line that Rosie says and ALs weirdly high stats had people (me included) theorizing that he might be a cambion or something. With Roo being one of his parents. I KNOW its just a crack theory, but with how much Viv loves AL, and the soul line, I thought it was an entertaining theory that could be an interesting plot point. Especially with how people think that Roo is tied to Charlie, so these theories being true at the same time would make them half siblings, and I thought that was a cool headcannon.

To be clear, I don't believe this yet, just thought I should ask opinions
 
OK this is just not true, there is no proof that Vox broadcasted his defeat, and even if they did Alastor was still a huge influencer (when Overlords heard that Alastor was beaten, they assumed it was Lucifer who did it, and when they heard it was Vox they were shocked and started holding him in the very high regard). He also pretty easily regained attention of many in Pentagram doing Stayed Gone.
man, Vox was filming the whole thing, that got into the news of hell (cof cof, Katie killjoy commented about Adam), EVERYONE KNOWS, even Rosie knows that Alastor fought Adam and got dog walked by him.
and again, that is without going into the fact that... words?like, WORDS????come Charlie will actually look stupid if she tried to just tell everyone about it but again, WORDS
 
man, Vox was filming the whole thing, that got into the news of hell (cof cof, Katie killjoy commented about Adam), EVERYONE KNOWS, even Rosie knows that Alastor fought Adam and got dog walked by him.
Why are you providing no proof. Rosie could know from Alastor himself.
and again, that is without going into the fact that... words?like, WORDS????come Charlie will actually look stupid if she tried to just tell everyone about it but again, WORDS
What🥀
 
Did he actually mention that in their conversation? All I remember is that she said he's crazy for thinking he could fight an Archangel.
I meant that he could have told her not there.
Besides, he doesn’t mention in their conversation that he was publicly humiliated in all of Hell, nor the Overlords mention, nor ANYONE mentions it in S2 besides Alastor himself, Rosie, and Vox.
 
Radio is not a good way to show proof for redemption, it is just WORDS.
Show what proof, Charlie was not going to do that, she just wanted to announce that Pentious was redeemed LMAO, and radio is good enough for that. Charlie didn’t even think of showing proof and couldn’t do that till the freaking finale.
 
Show what proof, Charlie was not going to do that, she just wanted to announce that Pentious was redeemed LMAO, and radio is good enough for that. Charlie didn’t even think of showing proof and couldn’t do that till the freaking finale.
okay what would change?do you think people will believe her and go more into the hotel if she just told them that Sir Pentious was redemeed...
 
The speed calc I requested was accepted by TheRustyOne moments ago.
We no longer need the arbitrary Supersonic rating on the verse from the imp bullet timing, we have Subsonic+ (Mach 0.57) for it now.
Other imp speed feats will be calced, sure, but this is a great start (Ik we have shockwave's supersonic feat and, if all goes well, the FTL stuff but we'll at least have supportive feats)
 
Ngl from Charlie's POV, Alastor:
  1. Wasted his favor on something good and not malicious despite suspicions;
  2. Made a deal with Vox so that Vox does not even lay a hand on her;
  3. Fought Vox who was her biggest enemy at the time;
  4. Brought Rosie to help stop the Might of Lilith overheat;
  5. Returned back to Hotel with a good mood.
So he looks like a reaaaaaaaally good guy in her head. It's especiialy interesting given that Alastor will have a villain role in Season 3.
 
Ngl from Charlie's POV, Alastor:
  1. Wasted his favor on something good and not malicious despite suspicions;
  2. Made a deal with Vox so that Vox does not even lay a hand on her;
  3. Fought Vox who was her biggest enemy at the time;
  4. Brought Rosie to help stop the Might of Lilith overheat;
  5. Returned back to Hotel with a good mood.
So he looks like a reaaaaaaaally good guy in her head. It's especiialy interesting given that Alastor will have a villain role in Season 3.
man, it will hurt her so much when Alastor does the most evil bullshit ever...whatever he will do
 
Ngl from Charlie's POV, Alastor:
  1. Wasted his favor on something good and not malicious despite suspicions;
  2. Made a deal with Vox so that Vox does not even lay a hand on her;
  3. Fought Vox who was her biggest enemy at the time;
  4. Brought Rosie to help stop the Might of Lilith overheat;
  5. Returned back to Hotel with a good mood.
So he looks like a reaaaaaaaally good guy in her head. It's especiialy interesting given that Alastor will have a villain role in Season 3.
I gotta know wtf bro is actually planning, cause with current motivations in mind the dude only cares about murder and power. So its either he plans to kill someone/multiple people (granted outside of Pencious and MAYBE Rosie nobody fits his current killer MO) or he wants to get more power SOMEHOW

Anyway, its clear as day that Alastor's master plan of season 3 is to rage bait Lucifer though events that exceedingly get more ridiculous for literally no reason other than its funny
 
Alastor goal is to kill GOD AND OVERTHROW THE ABSOLUTE CREATOR AND SO HE CAN FINALLY CREATE A TRULY LIVING HELL ACROSS ALL REALMS, BE IT IN HELL ITSELF OR HEAVEN
 
Alastor goal is to kill GOD AND OVERTHROW THE ABSOLUTE CREATOR AND SO HE CAN FINALLY CREATE A TRULY LIVING HELL ACROSS ALL REALMS, BE IT IN HELL ITSELF OR HEAVEN
Im now imaging the Heaven equivalent of Alastor stepping into church and then immediately being engulfed in (holy) flames
 
Ngl from Charlie's POV, Alastor:
  1. Wasted his favor on something good and not malicious despite suspicions;
  2. Made a deal with Vox so that Vox does not even lay a hand on her;
  3. Fought Vox who was her biggest enemy at the time;
  4. Brought Rosie to help stop the Might of Lilith overheat;
  5. Returned back to Hotel with a good mood.
So he looks like a reaaaaaaaally good guy in her head. It's especiialy interesting given that Alastor will have a villain role in Season 3.
Can't wait to see Fraudstor get ******!
 
I gotta know wtf bro is actually planning, cause with current motivations in mind the dude only cares about murder and power. So its either he plans to kill someone/multiple people (granted outside of Pencious and MAYBE Rosie nobody fits his current killer MO) or he wants to get more power SOMEHOW

Anyway, its clear as day that Alastor's master plan of season 3 is to rage bait Lucifer though events that exceedingly get more ridiculous for literally no reason other than its funny
I think given how he looked at Lu in the end of the season, and that now he knows he can't him and that he can be used as a power-up, he will scheme something regarding him. That's a popular theory I've seen.
man, it will hurt her so much when Alastor does the most evil bullshit ever...whatever he will do
But at least it will be entertaining!
(I'm 99.67% sure Al will survive events of Season 3)
 
How do y’all think Niffty even became an Overlord
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Either Vizie waste's alastor's villain arc or she sets him up as the best finale villain in hazbin
Kind of hard to top Vox, guy was like a reinaissance Disney Villain in quality.

The things holding Vox back do not relate to Vox, they relate to Vivzie writers forgetting things like the holograms Adam and Lute used exist and making characters lose brain cells because "Why not?"
 
The things holding Vox back do not relate to Vox, they relate to Vivzie writers forgetting things like the holograms Adam and Lute used exist and making characters lose brain cells because "Why not?"
the hologram was broken by Adam either way, and the embassy was destroyed afterwards, Vox controls all the media in Hell and has access to Heaven own security system, and Vox could always spin the narrative and say "it is a lie/it is made up" because, obviosly, he can do it, and people will believe him.
 
the hologram was broken by Adam either way, and the embassy was destroyed afterwards, Vox controls all the media in Hell and has access to Heaven own security system, and Vox could always spin the narrative and say "it is a lie/it is made up" because, obviosly, he can do it, and people will believe him.
Yes, he COULD. What if, instead of Charlie's eyes drifting apart because she's got no brain in there, she took Vox to the embassy, and because the Angels have nothing saying they don't replace things people break in more than SIX MONTHS, they showed him Pentious, but he just hacks the system and makes it seem fake?

There's a way to not reduce Charlie to an imbecile and make Vox more threatening.

But they didn't do any of this.
 
Yes, he COULD. What if, instead of Charlie's eyes drifting apart because she's got no brain in there, she took Vox to the embassy, and because the Angels have nothing saying they don't replace things people break in more than SIX MONTHS, they showed him Pentious, but he just hacks the system and makes it seem fake?

There's a way to not reduce Charlie to an imbecile and make Vox more threatening.

But they didn't do any of this.
man...they didn't fix the broken glasses or the room of Adam after weeks, imagine that they also didn't fix the holograms in months since...why would they even try?or care for what matters.
also they built a entire barrier to prevent anyone from entering or leaving (unless you were a Seraphim and could open portals anyway)so i don't think the embassy will be useful...actually there is no proof the embassy works to send messages, what Adam did was a one way thing for him, not for Charlie.
like how can that even work?SHE STILL NEEDED TO TALK WITH HER FATHER TO HAVE A MEETING WITH HEAVEN, she didn't use the embassy, because that thing does not work for that (also it was apparently abandoned and covered in eyes)
 
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