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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

 
I need to rethink how much I like it icl, you have a salient point

I agree, I was really favoring it because of the ending tbh

We need to cook up the tiering first lil bro
Btw I just rewatched the scene and the characters that helped to stop the 134 gigatons explosions were:
1. Emily
2. Charlie
3. Husk
4. Niffty
5. Zestial
6. Carmilla
7. Rosie
8. Alastor
9. Velvette
10. Valentino
plus 6 extra overlords.
That's 16.

134/16 = 8.375 gigatons, so that should be the base value used for these characters.
 
Do we have anything new in the matter of speed for the mid tiers? Or we'll have to calculate Emily's speed in relation to the laser? Would that be calc stacking now?
The only thing we need to fully rework this verse is a speed feat for them.
 
Do we have anything new in the matter of speed for the mid tiers? Or we'll have to calculate Emily's speed in relation to the laser? Would that be calc stacking now?
The only thing we need to fully rework this verse is a speed feat for them.
Shok.wav dashing to Alastor and Vox is around transonic to supersonic+, but it probably scales to overlords only
 

This is a paradise for my eyes icl

Oh and also what I wanted to say, it once again supports combat-applicable regen

Actually that's Alastor removing the spider legs. You see in the shot right after he's back to his normal legs, which you can also see when he cuts the spider legs off they're on the right of the frame, and we don't see the spider legs come back after that. No combat-applicable regen for you buddy.
 
Actually that's Alastor removing the spider legs. You see in the shot right after he's back to his normal legs, which you can also see when he cuts the spider legs off they're on the right of the frame, and we don't see the spider legs come back after that. No combat-applicable regen for you buddy.
Eh whatever we still have Val and Pentious
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(Also still feat for Goatlastor)
 
Interesting video that I found in YouTube.

When you come to the same conclusion but the method is so mind numbing that you no longer agree (Planetary Pochita of weakened falling [gets damaged by weakned Denji btw] and Planetary Stolas in 2025)
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I no longer agree with my original conclusion, Vox solos now.
Trust us with your power scaling
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but this man did NOT go down like some ***** like Adam.
are we fr? Adam packed up the strongest sinner in moments, one shot sir pentipus and his entire blimp, DESTROYS Charlie despite not using his magic or weapons but matters of fact using his stabbed arm after all that he goes to fight Lucifer and still survives a whole beatdown and a tag team of Charlie True Form and Lucifer only to die from a sneak attack into the heart a dozen of times

Yet he STILL survives long enough to smile at Lute one last time

He ran a gauntlet without any type of plot armor while Vox had SO much like with Lucifer and yet Alastor dogged him while weakened 😂
 
If Adam, and especially Adam's beams, get lightspeed, should we give the benefit of being relativistic+ to Al for being capable of blocking it?
 
Wait guys, now that I think about it, Alastor mentions to Rosie that she'll watch them die unless she fixes his staff, to which Rosie responding, "you wouldn't dare" which could indicate that both of them, even Alastor in his weakened state, could endure the 134 gigatons explosion... (100% Vox would also upscale)
This would also put Alastor above base Charlie and Emily which tbh I think it's not too bad
 
Wait guys, now that I think about it, Alastor mentions to Rosie that she'll watch them die unless she fixes his staff, to which Rosie responding, "you wouldn't dare" which could indicate that both of them, even Alastor in his weakened state, could endure the 134 gigatons explosion...
Are you sure it would really? It can be just a blackmailing “we are all getting nuked or you give me power”. Also don’t you forget they can also teleport or smth, so it’s problematic in any case. I mean, the thing was a war machine against Неаven and required to channel Lucifer’s powers to its limits. Weakened Alastor ain’t surviving that.
 
Are you sure it would really? It can be just a blackmailing “we are all getting nuked or you give me power”. Also don’t you forget they can also teleport or smth, so it’s problematic in any case. I mean, the thing was a war machine against Неаven and required to channel Lucifer’s powers to its limits. Weakened Alastor ain’t surviving that.
I was writing the CRT and I realized how absurdly powerful Alastor actually is.
He was comparable to 100% Vox who's leagues above Zestial who's so powerful that his mere presence terrified one of the overlords who helped contain the explosion who's likely stronger than the likes of Husk or Niffty in the first place. So yeah, I totally believe him, the insane scaling chain supports him.
 
I was writing the CRT and I realized how absurdly powerful Alastor actually is.
He was comparable to 100% Vox who's leagues above Zestial who's so powerful that his mere presence terrified one of the overlords who helped contain the explosion who's likely stronger than the likes of Husk or Niffty in the first place. So yeah, I totally believe him, the insane scaling chain supports him.
it's also like the fact that they are talking to each other in the middle of the chaos and being petty to each other rather than worrying which indicates they likely are not in real danger.
 
Are you sure it would really? It can be just a blackmailing “we are all getting nuked or you give me power”. Also don’t you forget they can also teleport or smth, so it’s problematic in any case. I mean, the thing was a war machine against Неаven and required to channel Lucifer’s powers to its limits. Weakened Alastor ain’t surviving that.
Don't give into common sense. Agenda says he does, trust us
(yeah, he 100% gets fried if he tried tanking it. he'd likely teleport out tho)
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are we fr? Adam packed up the strongest sinner in moments,
You mean the same one you argue he no-sells everything from? I suppose Adam was just feeling so philosophical in the middle of combat that he took two steps back and rubbed his chin, coincidentally, Alastor had just hit him, hmm?
one shot sir pentipus and his entire blimp,
You mean the guy who gets bitched on by everyone he fights on-screen?
DESTROYS Charlie despite not using his magic or weapons but matters of fact using his stabbed arm
So the pacifist who thinks running to war armed with nothing but a shield is a good idea? TWICE?!
after all that he goes to fight Lucifer
Who he could do basically nothing to and currently his soul refers to as exclusively "daddy" because of how hard his ass got beat?
and still survives a whole beatdown and a tag team of Charlie True Form and Lucifer
Charlie blocks one attack and she's part of this now? Also he got his shit pushed in
only to die from a sneak attack into the heart a dozen of times
Which was preceeded by Adam being so pissed he's losing that he goes on a rant, and mind you, he dies to someone whos physically comparable to Velvette.
Yet he STILL survives long enough to smile at Lute one last time
Yep!
He ran a gauntlet without any type of plot armor while Vox had SO much like with Lucifer and yet Alastor dogged him while weakened 😂
Vox didn't have any plot armor either(Besides the whole Lucifer can't do shit to sinners thing, which is a plot hole lol) and if we're being real, Alastor was getting ******* ragdolled for most of the fight until Vox stopped being a spider thanks to his own skill issue. And even after being pretty thoroughly beat up the man doesn't give up even after his head is ripped off of his body.

Now TBF, part of this is bias because Vox is the best written character in Hellaverse and it's not even close, but Adam still got bitched pretty thoroughly.
I was writing the CRT and I realized how absurdly powerful Alastor actually is.
He was comparable to 100% Vox who's leagues above Zestial who's so powerful that his mere presence terrified one of the overlords who helped contain the explosion who's likely stronger than the likes of Husk or Niffty in the first place. So yeah, I totally believe him, the insane scaling chain supports him.
I will be writing the CRT myself, along with the reworks for the Vess, Alastor, and Husk.

I can shoot you an invite to the PM if you want.
 
Nah I think you both are underestimating how huge the gap between the likes of 100% Vox and the likes of a "baseline overlord" is.
I was gonna give "at least island level likely far higher" to Al but I think he straight up deserves something like "likely large island level"
 
You mean the same one you argue he no-sells everything from? I suppose Adam was just feeling so philosophical in the middle of combat that he took two steps back and rubbed his chin, coincidentally, Alastor had just hit him, hmm?

You mean the guy who gets bitched on by everyone he fights on-screen?

So the pacifist who thinks running to war armed with nothing but a shield is a good idea? TWICE?!

Who he could do basically nothing to and currently his soul refers to as exclusively "daddy" because of how hard his ass got beat?

Charlie blocks one attack and she's part of this now? Also he got his shit pushed in

Which was preceeded by Adam being so pissed he's losing that he goes on a rant, and mind you, he dies to someone whos physically comparable to Velvette.

Yep!

Vox didn't have any plot armor either(Besides the whole Lucifer can't do shit to sinners thing, which is a plot hole lol) and if we're being real, Alastor was getting ******* ragdolled for most of the fight until Vox stopped being a spider thanks to his own skill issue. And even after being pretty thoroughly beat up the man doesn't give up even after his head is ripped off of his body.

Now TBF, part of this is bias because Vox is the best written character in Hellaverse and it's not even close, but Adam still got bitched pretty thoroughly.

I will be writing the CRT myself, along with the reworks for the Vess, Alastor, and Husk.

I can shoot you an invite to the PM if you want.
Oh ok, that'd be nice I like working with this verse and I have the CRT half done, at least I separated the characters into multiple categories, which is precisely what allowed me to see Peaklastor's true power (I can send you what I did)
 
You mean the same one you argue he no-sells everything from? I suppose Adam was just feeling so philosophical in the middle of combat that he took two steps back and rubbed his chin, coincidentally, Alastor had just hit him, hmm
That's TheOrangeGuy09's Technique!
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Vox didn't have any plot armor either(Besides the whole Lucifer can't do shit to sinners thing, which is a plot hole lol)
How is that plot hole? If anything it’s rare Vivzie’s W. But yea plot armor thingy comes from the cope that Lu can’t do a thing to him.
Ik, I’m just saying I did calc it already and it’s Rela+

Y’know what gonna transfer it now cuz why not actually
Btw done:
Now we wait.
 
That's TheOrangeGuy09's Technique!
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I said shit like that a year ago, what rock have you been living under?
I suppose that Adam was just so deep in thought in the middle of combat that he started rubbing his chin coincidentally after getting hit in that exact place and forced to stagger back.

It takes a lot of assumptions to say Adam didn't feel that hit, and it should be noted that only Alastor's AP would be scaling to this, not his Striking Strength or Durability.
 
You mean the same one you argue he no-sells everything from? I suppose Adam was just feeling so philosophical in the middle of combat that he took two steps back and rubbed his chin, coincidentally, Alastor had just hit him, hmm?
He still packed him up didn’t he 😂✌️ Also son you is NOT orange 💔
You mean the guy who gets bitched on by everyone he fights on-screen?
Same one who created a technology by himself to speak between the realms (above Vox tech entirely) and yet despite having angelic material to work with Adam still one shot him (weaker technology like Vox tech completely bitched on Lucifer 😭)
So the pacifist who thinks running to war armed with nothing but a shield is a good idea? TWICE?!
Oh yeah the same pacifist that is the DAUGHTER of Lucifer, she has the raw power just not on the GOATdams level
Who he could do basically nothing to and currently his soul refers to as exclusively "daddy" because of how hard his ass got beat?
Oh he lost to Lucifer and survived an beatdown then a tag team with him and True Form Charlie, oh the horror! Meanwhile Vox lost to a weakened Alastor and had to call his pet 😂
Which was preceeded by Adam being so pissed he's losing that he goes on a rant, and mind you, he dies to someone whos physically comparable to Velvette.
We are just gonna ignore the sneak attack and the fact that it was Angelic weapon? Vox got beheaded by Val with NO weapons, are you even being fr here 🤔
Vox didn't have any plot armor either(Besides the whole Lucifer can't do shit to sinners thing, which is a plot hole lol) and if we're being real, Alastor was getting ******* ragdolled for most of the fight until Vox stopped being a spider thanks to his own skill issue. And even after being pretty thoroughly beat up the man doesn't give up even after his head is ripped off of his body.
Yap yap yap he lost to a weakened Alastor and manipulated for the entire season, he also DID give up after being beheaded what??
Now TBF, part of this is bias because Vox is the best written character in Hellaverse and it's not even close, but Adam still got bitched pretty thoroughly.
You are pretty biased I know
 
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