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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

I have nothing more to say on against regen then, better stats for the verse is always good, better even that it's fair.

Although I would like to bring up that they may deserve low - godly regeneration, considering the blast was small town level, and that penny is at most city block level, I can't really see how he wouldn't have been completely vaporized, unless we have evidence against that too? Otherwise doesn't he get that low godly, and everyone else too, that is combat applicable?
 
Is that actually stealth? Could we add that to his profile?
As the guy who spends WAY too much time studying a stealth based verse, yes it does count.

Vox accomplished it without several people noticing it, he at minimum would've had to do it without Charlie and Niffty noticing. Plus the train was already moving by the time we first see it so he quite possible accomplished it during a drive-by
 
Not to derail the Lupin fever dream,
The First movie would like a word on that


God I need to watch that

But this IS a hella verse thread, so I would like to ask whether or not the low godly regeneration can be even a possibly due to the nature of hell and eternal punishment, the high regen is fine on its own, but is low godly really a stretch?
Because what could penny Regen from? A 1 kiloton explosion vs fleshy 8-B+ doesn't sound like anything would be left

So is there anything there or nah?
 
God I need to watch that
As someone who's seen the good and the bad, this is one of the greats (Also highly recommend Lupin Zero as an introduction to the series)

But this IS a hella verse thread, so I would like to ask whether or not the low godly regeneration can be even a possibly due to the nature of hell and eternal punishment, the high regen is fine on its own, but is low godly really a stretch?
Because what could penny Regen from? A 1 kiloton explosion vs fleshy 8-B+ doesn't sound like anything would be left

So is there anything there or nah?
The most you can argue from an explosion is regenerating from vapor as that's the highest level of damage it COULD do without specific atomic stuff (EX: Dragon Ball's Majin Buu surviving Ki attacks). The reason for this is because no matter what there's bound to be either ash or vapor remaining to come back from
 
As someone who's seen the good and the bad, this is one of the greats (Also highly recommend Lupin Zero as an introduction to the series)


The most you can argue from an explosion is regenerating from vapor as that's the highest level of damage it COULD do without specific atomic stuff (EX: Dragon Ball's Majin Buu surviving Ki attacks). The reason for this is because no matter what there's bound to be either ash or vapor remaining to come back from
K then, still feel like logically it should be there, though, there is an argument that...
Whatever actually, s'fine
 
Plenty of things make narrative sense that get's thrown out the window for verses. Best thing to do is agenda it into existence, look how well that's working for VoxTek.
One of the things I really hate about power scaling, we know that sinners can come back from nothing because otherwise the story makes less sense if they can't, it would literally be a plot hole, but because it doesn't happen on screen we can't give it to them
 
One of the things I really hate about power scaling, we know that sinners can come back from nothing because otherwise the story makes less sense if they can't, it would literally be a plot hole, but because it doesn't happen on screen we can't give it to them
I wouldn't consider it a complete plot hole since it does come with the genuine question of "Who tf is attacking on the atomic level?"

Been reading Ichi the Witch which also has unkillable entities that can just regenerate from anything, but that did recently introduce the idea of a rumor that their regeneration has a limit. It's immediately followed by vaporization on the cellular level and the victim recovering from it. It's not a plot hole to assume everyone's regeneration is guaranteed if there is legit no one around who can actually attack beyond their level. So it's only fair for everyone to assume that the next extreme is their limit until they prove us wrong.

Closest we got here is Adam obliterating Sir Pencious, however we don't have a atomic statement and it involved getting turned into a Winner which is rather specific circumstances. So until we get the Atomic Demon, there's not much to work with for anything beyond what the forces of Heaven and Hell has shown
 
I wouldn't consider it a complete plot hole since it does come with the genuine question of "Who tf is attacking on the atomic level?"

Been reading Ichi the Witch which also has unkillable entities that can just regenerate from anything, but that did recently introduce the idea of a rumor that their regeneration has a limit. It's immediately followed by vaporization on the cellular level and the victim recovering from it. It's not a plot hole to assume everyone's regeneration is guaranteed if there is legit no one around who can actually attack beyond their level. So it's only fair for everyone to assume that the next extreme is their limit until they prove us wrong.

Closest we got here is Adam obliterating Sir Pencious, however we don't have a atomic statement and it involved getting turned into a Winner which is rather specific circumstances. So until we get the Atomic Demon, there's not much to work with for anything beyond what the forces of Heaven and Hell has shown
the sins need to step up and do this I for my sanity I swear to god
 
Vox is luring Lucifer to him, as we know he'll be using him as a power source for whatever weapon he is making.

Angel Dust is fully hypnotized and under Vox's control, and Vox said his plan will be to make Charlie basically end herself, so I feel like him using Angel Dust will be the lead of executing that plan.

Zestial will help Charlie so he can try and convince Carmilla to stop helping Vox, he'll succeed in making her stop, but would be too late as the weapon would be finished.

Husk and Cherri Bomb will potentially be investigating where Angel Dust disappeared, my guess will be they will find out that Vox hypnotized Angel Dust via help from Baxter.

Now here's my true prediction for how Vox will be ultimately defeated:

Since Vox will find a way to use Lucifer as a power source for his weapon, my guess will be that Alastor will make Lucifer do a deal with him, where Alastor gets enough power to get his staff fixed, become the true strongest Overlord, and utterly defeat Vox, since we know Alastor can fight him but doesn't have the power to do so, while Lucifer is stronger but can't fight him.

Though the question is, how will the weapon be defeated? I have some theories:

A: Zestial convincing Carmilla will make her sabotage the weapon before it gets used.

B: It will be stopped by Speaker of God.

C: It wouldn't actually be stopped, and will cause some destruction.

D: Charlie will finally reveal more power and stop it.
 
I wonder if Lu can even make deals with Sinners, since his restrictions is "can't do nothin' with 'em", which would probably include deals.
He says that he can't harm them, that has no implications that he can't do anything at all, we did see that he can destroy their public property, and he totally could give powers to other sinners
 
He says that he can't harm them, that has no implications that he can't do anything at all, we did see that he can destroy their public property, and he totally could give powers to other sinners
Public property is not sinners themselves. What I mean is that if "can't do nothin' with 'em" means he can't impact negatively, he probably can't imply positively either.
 
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You telling me you've never heard the word Twink before?
Yea not having English as your first language does that to you
But, yeah. I'm sure it's something Vox used based on how many people online call the men in the Hellaverse twinks due to basically being twigs most of the time and vivzie put that line in for those people, ig
I see lol
 
Wassup guys, still talking about this 6/10 show?


Also I noticed a lot of the fanbase thinks murder is the solution to everything for some reason.............maybe they might have missed the point of the show ngl
 
Also I noticed a lot of the fanbase thinks murder is the solution to everything for some reason.............maybe they might have missed the point of the show ngl
Depends on which part of the story your talking about;

If we're talking like BEFORE Vox proclaimed himself King of Hell and rallied hell into a war then killing him unironically does fix a lot of things. (And nobody would really care at that point of the story)

After the newest episodes, yeah killing him would just make things worse because it would just make everyone even angrier and someone would just take his place since Hell is already fixated on taking over heaven.
 
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