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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

How can you prove that he died any more than I can't prove that he survived? And in that case he either gets busted Regen (which is bogus), or he simply survived it? We see that sinners gaining their forms just fall from the sky, I'd imagine the same goes for destroyed bodies. If he DID just Regen, then that means he had enough to come BACK from, so he still keeps his 8-B, or at worst the cast is 8-C and Al gets to keep his stats
We have a statement for one, a billion statements of Sinners being unkillable without angelic weaponry, and the knowledge Sinners have LOW-HIGH REGENERATION.

Having applicable High-Mid regen is literally something we already have lmfao
 
Velvet said that her torn apart model would take a long time to regenerate, I think she said something more along the lines of "that b**** will take forever to pull herself back together" or something like that, so they probably CAN regenerate from parts scattered around, just not quickly, it's implied to take minutes or even hours from how annoyed Vel was
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Someone say Velvette? The specifics of the line was "He torn up my best model, and you KNOW the show can't wait for that b*tch to pull herself back together".

Given the very fast paced nature of Velvette's line of work, which has literal statements of calling people '2 seconds out of fashion', it's not a reliable statement on if something is or isn't combat applicable since she isn't someone who'd even wait 5 minutes. Much less a full hour
 
We have a statement for one, a billion statements of Sinners being unkillable without angelic weaponry, and the knowledge Sinners have LOW-HIGH REGENERATION.

Having applicable High-Mid regen is literally something we already have lmfao
And being unkillable doesn't have to mean Regen, just that hell will make a new form when the old one is too damaged, which is the assumption I've been working under for as long as the pilot
 
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Someone say Velvette? The specifics of the line was "He torn up my best model, and you KNOW the show can't wait for that b*tch to pull herself back together".

Given the very fast paced nature of Velvette's line of work, which has literal statements of calling people '2 seconds out of fashion', it's not a reliable statement on if something is or isn't combat applicable since she isn't someone who'd even wait 5 minutes. Much less a full hour
Fair Ig
 
Ain't that just Low-Godly regen with extra steps
Once again, I always thought logically and implied that it took a non combat applicable amount of time to draw out the process for more pain and suffering, also yes, I am saying that, because they literally DO have it, if a sinner were to be vaporized by a non angelic thing, they can come back, I'm surprised its not on their sinner physiology
 
There were tendrils inside the ship too holding him, those most likely exploded too, so Penny WOULD have been right at the epicenter, does that change anything?
They were shown to outright explode, so that's not even something to argue, likely speaking the explosion possibly started from where Pentious was being crushed, considering the explosion obliterated everything from the inside, I also still think it's explosion manipulation via what I replied to.
 
Nice headcanon, especially given that even getting to Hеаven did not change Pentious’ body, just changed his clothes.
Not really head cannon, if they have parts left I have no doubt they could EVENTUALLY Regen, but what happens when there's nothing left to come back from? Is it really head cannon to say they get a new body? Whether that's Regen or resurrection idc, they still need a new body
 
Not really head cannon, if they have parts left I have no doubt they could EVENTUALLY Regen, but what happens when there's nothing left to come back from? Is it really head cannon to say they get a new body? Whether that's Regen or resurrection idc, they still need a new body
You can argue that given that the only way to destroy them is nuking their soul, but that's very dubious, given that we do not have something destroying down to atoms in HH.
This is why their Regen is currently this:
and not this:
 
Also Sir pentious uses Enriched Urenium for his weapons
Doesn't change much, but it's nice to know he has the smarts for it, but he already has genius so that's not surprising, might give the cast radiation resistance seeing as how destroying a nuclear reactor should probably have some side effects
 
You can argue that given that the only way to destroy them is nuking their soul, but that's very dubious, given that we do not have something destroying down to atoms in HH.
That's kind of stupid imo, why do we need a weapon that destroys something down to atoms when we already know they're immortal till their souls are erased?
 
You can argue that given that the only way to destroy them is nuking their soul, but that's very dubious, given that we do not have something destroying down to atoms in HH.
This is why their Regen is currently this:

and not this:
Not really that deep,
Still have parts? Yea? Regen
Still have parts? No? New parts
Unless they can come back from atoms, but then that grants sinners an unfair amount of Regen they quite frankly don't deserve
 
That's kind of stupid imo, why do we need a weapon that destroys something down to atoms when we already know they're immortal till their souls are erased?
Basically this. If they have a body, then they can Regen over time, if they don't, they just get a new one, either way, they are immortal, and no one's explained to me where the Regen even comes from, nobody does, they either tank it or die
 
That's kind of stupid imo, why do we need a weapon that destroys something down to atoms when we already know they're immortal till their souls are erased?
Because the reason why they need soul erased is because there ain't anything that can nuke their atoms, something like that.
Still have parts? No? New parts
See, this is the thing you have no proof for.
 
Because the reason why they need soul erased is because there ain't anything that can nuke their atoms, something like that.

See, this is the thing you have no proof for.
You are trying to give them OP combat usable Regen that THEY DONT HAVE, THEY NEVER HAVE IT, SHOW ME WHERE IT IS

And your argument makes no sense because of narrative, it doesn't make sense that a sinner couldn't get a new body if they were atomized. They are immortal to any non angelic source, so the narrative is my evidence, otherwise, they aren't immortal, just vaporize them and they are perma gone, which runs directly counter to the story and how being a suffering sinner works
 
You are trying to give them OP combat usable Regen that THEY DONT HAVE, THEY NEVER HAVE IT, SHOW ME WHERE IT IS
Here.
And your argument makes no sense because of narrative, it doesn't make sense that a sinner couldn't get a new body if they were atomized. They are immortal to any non angelic source, so the narrative is my evidence, otherwise, they aren't immortal, just vaporize them and they are perma gone, which runs directly counter to the story and how being a suffering sinner works
My brain was scratched. Your argument is that they cannot have combat-applicable High-Mid because they haven't shown combat-applicable High Regen? That's a non-sequitir, sorry.
 
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My brain was scratched. Your argument is that they cannot have combat-applicable High-Mid because they haven't shown combat-applicable High Regen? That's a non-sequitir, sorry.
If they can't do it they can't do it? That's not a crazy statement to make. And even if pentious did Regen, then we don't have a timeframe for how long it took, how can we be sure that it wasn't minutes or hours, minutes is already not combat applicable, so do we REALLY know whether or not it is? Do we have evidence for the timeframe? I'm just worried that we're giving sinners too much credit is all
 
(yes i like to use levels)
Same

If they can't do it they can't do it? That's not a crazy statement to make. And even if pentious did Regen, then we don't have a timeframe for how long it took, how can we be sure that it wasn't minutes or hours, minutes is already not combat applicable, so do we REALLY know whether or not it is? Do we have evidence for the timeframe? I'm just worried that we're giving sinners too much credit is all
How am I supposed to argue with you when you don't even read my arguments?
 
Still, getting stabbed in the stomach with a knife, to the point that you were bleeding alot, and regenerate it immediatly, is a pretty clear showing that the regeneration does not take that long.
AT WORST, it takes like...4 seconds
What if different types of regeneration take different times? A minor injury could be fast, but being destroyed like penny was could take longer? Although I will concede that your point has more water than mine, I'm not trying to say that they can't have a high regen, I just want to make absolutely sure that it's actually fair.
 
What if different types of regeneration take different times? A minor injury could be fast, but being destroyed like penny was could take longer? Although I will concede that your point has more water than mine, I'm not trying to say that they can't have a high regen, I just want to make absolutely sure that it's actually fair.
even if the time took longer, it clearly can't take THAT LONG to not be useful in combat.
like come on, Rotlings get revived taking more time for that than Hazbin characters getting revived.
 
What if different types of regeneration take different times? A minor injury could be fast, but being destroyed like penny was could take longer? Although I will concede that your point has more water than mine, I'm not trying to say that they can't have a high regen, I just want to make absolutely sure that it's actually fair.
The point is that while Sir Pentious sure took more time than Val to regen, and it makes sense given that regenerating from being blown-up is way harder than from being stabbed, it is still combat-applicable, since under SBA, to win you need to knock out the opponent for an hour, and Sinners' High-Mid regen takes less than that, so it IS indeed combat-applicable.
 
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