Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

[TheOrangeGuy09]

How would I know, I never agreed to these revisions

Oh wait mb I misread that

 

[Mythic381]

Oh wait mb I misread that

Should include that in your CRT btw.

 

[Mythic381]

Btw, does anyone here know how I can get added to Supporters and knowledgeable members?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Btw, does anyone here know how I can get added to Supporters and knowledgeable members?

Just edit the page to add yourself.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

 

[Mythic381]

You can never go wrong with a Hazbin song. (Unless you're "whatever it takes")

 

[Mythic381]

This too has been released.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

who changed Adam's icons on his profile

ngl they kinda ass

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Hellaverse HUGE Changes

Helluva Boss Tiering High 8-C comes from this calculation, but the IMPs literally nearly die to it, which as per our Durability standards is not a valid way to scale. We also don't know if they tanked it point-blank or not. The second highest calculation is 8-C, which is not really valid as...

vsbattles.com

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

arranging the calc section again for like the 3rd time made me realized that Majority of the main calcs we use for the characters rely on or are related to Sir Pentious lol

that's why he's one of the goats

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I added Alastor explosion section of the "Pentious gets screwed" calc to the page since it wasn't there before despite being accepted, shortened some of the calcs that were just pure joules by turned them into Kilojoules and Megajoules to take up less space, and fixing the label of Millie's Crater feat since it's wall level+

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

we should all thank sir Pentious for being the cause of like alot of the important calcs
(Everyone previously scaling to Low 7-C due to him surviving the Low 7-C attack, making the airships that caused the 8-B and 7-C ratings, and getting exploded by Alastor which made Alastor do the 8-A feat and gave Sir Pentious another 8-B dura feat)

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

I added Alastor explosion section of the "Pentious gets screwed" calc to the page since it wasn't there before despite being accepted, shortened some of the calcs that were just pure joules by turned them into Kilojoules and Megajoules to take up less space, and fixing the label of Millie's Crater feat since it's wall level+

noice

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

we should all thank sir Pentious for being the cause of like alot of the important calcs
(Everyone previously scaling to Low 7-C due to him surviving the Low 7-C attack, making the airships that caused the 8-B and 7-C ratings, and getting exploded by Alastor which made Alastor do the 8-A feat and gave Sir Pentious another 8-B dura feat)

fr fr

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

we need Sir Pentious Glaze

 

[Mythic381]

we need Sir Pentious Glaze

Already have him at outer.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Already have him at outer.

good god, not that type of glaze

 

[Mythic381]

good god, not that type of glaze

Truth hurts buddy.

 

[Alexander]

Okay so it was a mistake but there was supposed to be a implication there.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Yeah, implication that Exorcists are far beyond regular Sinners.

It doesn't exactly rebute Reaper's points, especially since show >>>>>> author.

 

[Alexander]

Yeah, implication that Exorcists are far beyond regular Sinners.

It doesn't exactly rebute Reaper's points, especially since show >>>>>> author.

but the show has been saying the same thing the Author is saying.
unless, off course, Angels being invulnerable was basically another lie created out of self-rightousness

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

but the show has been saying the same thing the Author is saying.
unless, off course, being invulnerable was basically another lie created out of self-rightousness

Nah, the basic explanation that was agreed upon is that they are way more durable than what most Sinners individually or even in groups can do. There's a reason why Exorcists stomp Sinners, but are still afraid that if unchecked, their population will grow so much they can rebel. Basically a huge enough number can beat them, but in smaller groups - no.
That'd also explain how strongest Sinner, Alastor, was able to create a shield against Exorcists that made them bleed when they flew right into it, and how he was able to damage General of Exorcists. They are very powerful and durable for most Sinners - and it takes the strongest of them to actually do jack to them.

 

[Alexander]

Nah, the basic explanation that was agreed upon is that they are way more durable than what most Sinners individually or even in groups can do. There's a reason why Exorcists stomp Sinners, but are still afraid that if unchecked, their population will grow so much they can rebel. Basically a huge enough number can beat them, but in smaller groups - no.
That'd also explain how strongest Sinner, Alastor, was able to create a shield against Exorcists that made them bleed when they flew right into it, and how he was able to damage General of Exorcists. They are very powerful and durable for most Sinners - and it takes the strongest of them to actually do jack to them.

that makes sense in a powerscaling sense.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

it also makes sense from a story prospective imo. As, if angels are genuinely inv and cannot be harmed without angelic weapons or angelic magic, heaven has no reason to fear a mass uprising at all from hell at all if they can just tank everything that doesn't have those properties (heck, they didn't know angelic weapons could do that)

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

it also makes sense from a story prospective imo. As, if they are genuinely inv and cannot be harmed without AWs etc., they had no reason to fear a mass uprising at all from hell at all if they can just tank everything that doesn't have those properties (heck, they didn't know AWs could do that)

Yeah that's basically what I was trying to say lol

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

I mean... isn't a desk heavier than ice?

Ig, but Stolas is legit scaled to Class M because of this feat.

A large chunk of rock is heavier than a desk.
So Striker is just stronger than Stolas or Vivzie doesn't care about power consistency (which, to be fair, a lot of writers don't care about).

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

it also makes sense from a story prospective imo. As, if angels are genuinely inv and cannot be harmed without angelic weapons or angelic magic, heaven has no reason to fear a mass uprising at all from hell at all if they can just tank everything that doesn't have those properties (heck, they didn't know angelic weapons could do that)

Angels can't "tank" non-angellic weapons. They can still be harmed. They just can't be killed.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Angels can't "tank" non-angellic weapons. They can still be harmed. They just can't be killed.

Dawg, what you're playing to is me giving my thoughts on Angelic invulnerablity being genine invinciblity. Cuz, like you said, they can't tank non-angelic weapons.
And due to that fact, if they can't tank non-angelic weapons, they're not invincible.

 

[Mythic381]

Ig, but Stolas is legit scaled to Class M because of this feat.

A large chunk of rock is heavier than a desk.
So Striker is just stronger than Stolas or Vivzie doesn't care about power consistency (which, to be fair, a lot of writers don't care about).

Or depowered Stolas indeed lost a lot of his physical strength, and the assumption that Andrealphus with powers should be close to a non-depowered Stolas is just stupid!

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Or depowered Stolas indeed lost a lot of his physical strength, and the assumption that Andrealphus with powers should be close to a non-depowered Stolas is just stupid!

Power-wise, it is, that’s why Stolas is 8-A with powers.

 

[Mythic381]

Power-wise, it is, that’s why Stolas is 8-A with powers.

I'm talking about physical strength, Stolas fails to lift the desk and then rants about how stupid what he did was, kind of weirdly connected, no?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I'm talking about physical strength, Stolas fails to lift the desk and then rants about how stupid what he did was, kind of weirdly connected, no?

Well, if that’s the case, his depowered key (if there will be one made) should have Unknown Lifting Strength.

 

[Mythic381]

Well, if that’s the case, his depowered key (if there will be one made) should have Unknown Lifting Strength.

Might make a CRT for a depowered key, but I still disagree with the idea that he is imp level physically with powers.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Might make a CRT for a depowered key, but I still disagree with the idea that he is imp level physically with powers.

Being in same tier ≠ same level. He physically is superior to them, it’s just unquantifiable for powerscaling.

 

[Mythic381]

Just edit the page to add yourself.

I can fr just do that?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I can fr just do that?

Yuh, it isn’t really strict at all lol

 

[ShionAH]

Did yall like did any upgrades or only downgrades

Btw High Tiers should be above Stolas in 7-A, no?

 

[Mythic381]

Did yall like did any upgrades or only downgrades

Downgraded Blitzo and Loona from their 7-A keys with grimoire.

Btw High Tiers should be above Stolas in 7-A, no?

No, Stolas specifically has it via Grimoire's environmental destruction, no other tier inverse showcased something around that level to assume they scale to grimoire. (Though it's kind of stupid ngl.)

 

[ShionAH]

So yall think Stolas, an average Goetia who actually isn’t even supposed to be a powerful type, is hundreds of times more powerful in pure potency compared to LUCIFER?

 

[Mythic381]

So yall think Stolas, an average Goetia who actually isn’t even supposed to be a powerful type, is hundreds of times more powerful in pure potency compared to LUCIFER?

You do realize he only scales to it via Grimoire right? It doesn't scale to his AP.