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oh yeah
Aura is shit
and this wiki is not exactly that at some points?
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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We still believing he wants to stay in the hotel to see it fail in the big 25
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it looks like Adam smashes from the future-future.
oh yeah and the other does not?
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Where was this Sir Pentious thing said? I really don't remember. It's just that I just can't be convinced enough to feel sorry for sinners. It's never really shown how they lived their lives, and when it is shown, as far as I can remember, it's never a minor mistake. Furthermore, I still find it strange that no sinner has ever said redemption, even with the existence of overlords, there are still billions of sinners, and there are still other cities in the ring where there are no overlords, like IMP city.
It was just a name I used
Little or nothing is shown of their lives.
As I said, Adam may have gained some benefit from the way he led his life.
That's why I said I didn't think they were entirely evil actions and put the "good" up there in quotation marks.
I'm just going with the logic I saw. It's pretty strict about how good you have to be to go to heaven and if the sir pentious thing is true, you have to lead a life like someone very good. And somehow Adam managed it, like, based on what we have in canon.
That's just me, I would just drop an angelic nuclear bomb on the city of the pentagram.
From what I remember I didn't say that I think Adam is the kindest person in the verse, but rather that he is not the most evil since logically he led a better life than the sinners.
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I have an English test tomorrow, does talking to you in English count as studying? I'm procrastinating at the moment.
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i can call a character in whatever the name i want, but it won't be their correct nameIt was just a name I used
ok
no proof for this
it is more easy to treat them has evil considering that genuinly, there is no remotly good on this, beyond Sera (who is not Adam)thinking she is doing for the good of heaven
if the rules for hell are lax enough so you can go even if you are not the one who did the bad thing, or even a minor "sin"thing, then the other can be true, by a little
Adam if he was real:
and somehow it makes him better?
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Okay, Alander.
And there is no proof that the universe overlooked Adam's actions in life.
I can only see it if in the next seasons there is a retcon about what decides heaven and hell or if Adam is revived as a sinner to show that he became evil enough to go to hell after he became an archangel.
If an obviously evil person in life is shown going to heaven for some reason, then sure, but I don't think we have that yet.
I'm starting to feel like Shion.
Nothing I've seen in the series makes me see him as the most evil person in the series.
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Now I'm going to play a little and then go study.
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Study "how not to write romance" with Helluva
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Nah, just because my boi Bill is in massive denial does not mean he is any less brutal. Unlike Alastor, he does not even have any code of morale or smth. Like, bro told his henchmaniacs to eat Dipper, and we know that Al does not attack children. He also protected that sheep woman while Bill would probably either laugh or turn both into weird something.
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Tbf it's so debatable because Vivzie just nuked the entire concept of hell. The fact that you can get out of it literally reduces any meaning that it originally had. You can do whatever you want to do in your life, even after your death, for nearly infinite amount of time until one day you decide to get redeemed, singing songs for 6 months and getting to heaven!
Yeah, that’s not what Heaven and Hell are supposed to be AT ALL.
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that was intentional
you know the series had minimum amount of retcons compared to other series
fortunatly
ok
random fun fact, but my spanish teacher once showed us a clip of Bojack horseman talking about his life being shit, and how he felt like the shit, and he had to lie so people won't known that he felt like the shit
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shingeki no kyojin will be a good example
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To be honest, I don't really care about this because it's not like the other universes with a hell are better.
We have Minecraft... only hell exists, and it's literally a world full of monsters. We have Madness Combat, where hell exists for everyone, and it's a personal hell... plus, everyone is horrible, and there are no "good people" except one.
And I could go on with other hells; there are few hells that actually feel like hell, where you could possibly go.
also if you truly want to change, it is your decision, not the decision of another ******* person, it is YOURS, it is a choice YOU TAKE, it is not something given by anyone.
the entire world can hate you for changing, but they can't make you choose to change.
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Yes because he’s insane from trauma. Alastor has manners. Bill acts like a 12 year old with dolls, alastor acts more methodical like Dexter or Hannibal lecter (though falls flat when it comes to writing). It’s a case of different maturity and different scales.
Alastor would most definitely torture people worse than bill does if he had the power too. Bill would give a quick death most of the time
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Mr Gold is how you do someone like alastor right. A powerful threat in the series that heavily respected and feared despite not being part of the top tiers in the hierarchy, is hated for his deeds even by evil ******* but always stays one step ahead, and even showed superiority to those stronger than him iirc. He also literally is feared via just being that stingy of a landlord without any power lol
and even had some good writing to boot (until season 4 Tbf).
Alastor got into a petty sing off with lucifer and that’s it
and even had some good writing to boot (until season 4 Tbf).
Alastor got into a petty sing off with lucifer and that’s it
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It’s not hard to write a character like alastor. Mr gold is in a vastly different setting but his personality and the threat he poses to his own series is what alastor should have been, the pilot even sets alastor up as a more cartoony mr gold. It’s just he’s relatively simple when it comes to that it’s a shock that OUAT managed to make a character more pilot accurate to alastor than the official series (just don’t make me explain his backstory cause holy sh*t is it long af)
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man with all the honesty, i never thought of Alastor has anything more than "a guy who acts like he is to much, but he is actually not that big of a deal"
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Well if the pilot and the qna’s and the comic didn’t set him up like that, hell the series even tries to gaslight you into thinking that. It’s so stupid lol, it’s not a subversion of expectation it’s just plain bad writing, they want to have alastor be strong but also can’t have him do anything other than be a punching bag for everyone
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he was just defeated by Adam...and thats it...who else defeated him?
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Lucifer literally just ignores him and calls him an average sinner, vaggie isn't as afraid of him as he was in the pilot. Vox is literally only mad at alastor not even shown to be that scared, the other vees don't give two *****. Carmilla insults alastor to his face by saying nobody cares where you went, he's literally used by mimzie to get her out of danger. His only win are fodder loan sharks, which is where I'm saying the series tries to gaslight you into thinking he's a big threat. If he tortured them to the point it made the audience uneasy instead of being cringe af and saying "i'll devour every one of you" and voring them then it'd make the scene slightly better but lucifer's reaction to alastor still ruins it.
Alastor being stronger than adam would literally improve his writing by a mile since it reinforces he's way stronger than the average sinner, being capable of fighting lilith. And him losing due to his soul contract would then enhance the mystery behind alastor. But nope he's just a slightly stronger sinner.
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to be honest i don't think Lucifer sees any sinners (at the moment)with anything other than "all of you are horrible"and he does not see Alastor any different, i don't think it is special if the RULER OF HELL does not see you has something to remark, because you are nothing to him.
Vox was defeated by Alastor (humilliated), i can't argue about the others really.
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Yes but vox imo should have some sort of PTSD from the guy, not just "oh this guy got his ego hurt" if I were writing the series (wait I lowkey might be cooking, give vox actual PTSD from alastor. Would give very good writing to the dude). Lucifer seeing alastor as a normal sinner and nothing more is the problem I have with alastor as a character, try to portray him as nothing but also a big deal in the same scene.
Here's what season 2 could do to salvage Alastor, he needs to be way more charismatic like the pilot, someone you could be friends with, something akin to a venus flytrap where he lures you in and manipulates you, similar to hannibal lecter from the series just more comedic, have him show of his power more, actually be creepy and more horror like (the new viziepop teaser implies that they may be heading down that direction), give vox panic attacks and potentially research ptsd victims so we can get a real in depth dive into how truly malicious alastor really was/is to warrant such an effect on vox (considering it's implied they used to be close). Considering we're told that the HB cast will pop in, have alastor be superior to the goeita so we can see that he himself doesn't follow hells heirarchy.
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He does? His reaction to Val’s statement is clearly PTSD.
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I don’t think you know what ptsd is if you call that ptsd, if it is it’s done really poorly since he immediately goes into a singing match against alastor and whines about losing.
Look up real cases of people with ptsd, it’s really really sad
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Eh, I thought you meant PTSD in more of a meme way, not actual disorder.
But keep in mind that for me, the “Alastor and Vox fought” thingy is really headcanon-ish, since it’s never explicitly stated. It was more like a popularity battle since that’s what the two are rivaling in. So, to me, there should be no real reason for Vox to have actual PTSD.
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Ehh but I feel like alastor nearly killing vox and giving him ptsd would give alastor a much more threatening presence in the series, and I also subscribe to the radiosilence ship
Also as I said this is damage control
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hey guys where do u all personally scale the verse?
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Building level and Subsonic+, take it or leave it.
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for me I have em at Large Mountain and FTL
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Below Average Human in all stats. I will say anything higher is wank and I will not change my position on this no matter how good your argument is
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Nah you pushed it, they're going to Wall level Hell now.
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Then debunk THIS
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Deviantart link. Invalid
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like I care
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copy paste to vsbw (IT WAS ACCEPTED LOL)
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Was once on deviantart. Invalid
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