man, this is just a THEORY, nothing more.
Most of it is a metaphor, but the angels expanding the universe in their ways means they actually created stuff and it showed Earth getting created which isn't a metaphor
Which is Angelic weapons either being 7-A or dura neg.
Man would be a real shame if the Adam and Eve thing was heavily implied to have happened because of ol' Lucifer, huh?
Oh I get, because it's a tier 5 feat it's not a metaphor but the tier 6 anti-feat is?
either the dura neg is not that bad.
thats already known even the story tells you that it was because of Lucifer, man what is this?
and what were the arguments beyond just saying "the story is false"(no proof for this is just theory crafting)
Creation feats are still AP
I said physicals, Tugia. Lucifer don't punch with 5-B AP.
with Creation. Under no circumstances can BH hit with that level of force.
It was however shown. Now how iffy that showing is goes with the issue of Creation Myths being iffy at the best of times, especially from a biased PoV.
Well well well, looks like we agree that Lucifer has historically lied/
That it's incredibly vague and artistic. You can be the one to run a Hazbin CRT if you want to try to upgrade em, have fun getting mods to give a singular FDA-Certified **** about this verse
I never said physical AP. I meant abilities AP
Shion is long gone, so go to Orangeguy. Frankly, you can try to make the CRT, but don't blame me if it doesn't get passed.
Funny how we're shown one but not the other
Earth still popped up on the screen
https://vsbattles.com/threads/hazbin-hotel-celestial-body-tier.175222/#post-6974600
Wouldn’t make sense either way cuz Alastor shield is a huge anti-feat for AWs tbh
How do you know the angels did that? Or hell, even if they did, did you divide the amount by how many were present? There's no proof just one did it.
Make your own, cause I doubt a mod is showing up to a thread with like 20 bibles in the first page alone lol
Fair
There are only four feats that can be above:
in this series?for what we know, no, he didn't lie.
they probably don't even watch the verse at all, and if they do...they probably hate the verse (i mean, at least i assume people here like the verse)
The only ones I believe in are 1 and 4. I don't believe in 2 or 3 I think that's just wanking
no proof there is overtime and there are four angels, so the feat will just get divided by 4.
they can change size, they are seraphims
he is just showing his daughter something beutiful (probably it is also his dream)
i wonder how, mostly because...everyone else is already above Stolas and the angels already got the implication of them being the responsable ones of expanding the universe.
So should we upgrade to Low 5-B or 5-A?
No proof it is instant either, and in powerscaling we go by lowest interpretation. At best, you’d get Unknown rating, which does not even matter in matchups anyways.
Nice headcanon that does not refute my point.
Yeah, it’s just a metaphorical way to say that his dream was beautiful or smth like that, idk.
Why does Stolas not do Tier 4 nukes or anything remotely similar when in danger again? Why don’t higher ranking people do?
Since when was bro Tier 4? He's High 6-A at best
His song in which Sun collapses used to be High 4-C, that’s what I’m talking about
I know about that thread. It's the definition of wanking
i mean Lucifer literraly create stuff in a instant, also no they were not more than four in the scene.
...we literraly listed Lucifer has having size manipulation in the musical number he has.
oh wait, maybe because everyone will be dead...including his transactional partner and most of the entire ring, and maybe because he is ******* sealed by angelic ropes?or maybe because he has no powers, or maybe because they have NO ******* REASON TO NUKE A ENTIRE RING JUST FOR THE LOLS.
This is false equivalance. If someone can create Tier 9 stuff instant, does not mean same is for Tier 4. Also narrative kinda implies it being overtime just like with expansion of universe.
That’s small size, not large.
I’m not saying they will nuke entire villages, I’m saying they would have shown something more impressive during certain conditions. And outlier anyways.
but they clearly didn't take years to create the planet earth
hahahaha good joke, but yeah he literraly just grows in size and punches something
like what kind of conditions will require them to drop a nuke the size of a solar system?and how is it a outlier?
Headcanon.
It was not.
Unless you wanna say every character has Reality Warping by just singing, no.
I said “or remotely close” too.
Read the outlier page lol.
assuming that is also a headcanon
then at least try to be more seriou
i didn't say that, and obviosly only those who explicitly show this have reality warping (Charlie, Alastor and Lucifer are good examples, and probably the only good ones, because everyone else clearly does not warp reality with their songs)
same
it does not tell you anything about a character being considered a high tier in the verse and doing that.
Going by lowest interpretation just like we do all the time in powerscaling*
I am. Your patronizing is inappropriate in this context.
We can’t say Alastor and Lucifer literally warp the hotel in their song with other characters being teleported away and stuff. That’s counter-logical.
No.
Reread it, I guess, since you clearly misunderstood the message.
even the lowest interpretation does not allow you to say they took millions of years.
well i can't really notice it
no it does not, like, Lucifer is a Seraphim, Alastor is the radio demon, they pretty much can create stuff and do magic.
?
i ask this again, how is Stolas being tier 4 a outlier when no one but the high and god tiers scale?
Why not? All I am saying it is unknown. It can be from eons to seconds. Nobody knows. We go with safest one.
Cut off patronizing rq.
This does not address my points at all lol.
Is this why powerless Stolas and IMPs took out on Andrealphus who should have Tier 4 power or be comparable to it? Is this why Alastor who is in the same league showed NO feats remotely close? Is this why Stolas never ever showed anything close himself?
the lowest interpretation is seconds do to the scene man
ok
MAGIC basically
oh yeah lets forget that Andrea didn't take them serious at all and he is clearly a clasist who will not use his full power against low beings...and is a ******* egotist.
Scene is not literal in timing unless you want to say that Lucifer being banished, falling in love with Lilith and giving apple to Eve, spreading the Evil, happened within a minute or so
This still does not make sense?
Again you’re misinterpeting what I am saying. Not saying that they will literally nuke on Tier 4 level, but could at least do way higher than shown in series if they can go up to Tier 4 level.
i mean, call me stupid...but the entire adam and eve thing with the apple...all happens in a day
ok?
yeah this is totally wank
character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com
Stolas is more inconsistent than Alastor's stance on the Hotel, frankly I do not know how to handle that damned bird.
That feat was shot into the sun, so uh... yeah.Hey @TheOrangeGuy09 didn't you scale Vox to High 7-A?
Hazbin Hotel: Vox causes a power outage
That was his old calc.
Yeah, in durability, and likely in AP.Hey @TheOrangeGuy09 didn't you scale Vox to High 7-A?
Hazbin Hotel: Vox causes a power outage
