Hanami (JJK) vs Pochita (CSM) (0-4-0)

[Robo432343]

Hanami

Hanami (花はな御み, Hanami?) is an unregistered special grade Cursed Spirit and an antagonist in Jujutsu Kaisen. They wish to kill humans to create a cleaner world controlled by Cursed Spirits. They are one of the Disaster Curses, who symbolizes humanity's collective fear of natural disasters. Tier...

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Pochita

Pochita (ポチタ?) otherwise known as the Chainsaw Devil is the original Chainsaw Man. Born out of humanity's fear of fear of chainsaws, Pochita is unlike any other devil— choosing to use his power to become of "hero" within Hell and appear before any who cry out for help, slaughtering both the...

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Both 8-B
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[Vzearr]

Pochita has an almost 2x AP advantage, far better LS, higher BIQ (according to the profiles), and good enough abilities to where I believe he wins. Pochita has my vote.

 

[Robo432343]

Pochita fra

 

[GunshyFever]

Going for Pochita due to AP advantage, superior skill and mobility, as well as immense piercing damage to rub salt into the wound.

 

[YmTheSuper]

Pochita eats Hanami FRA

 

[Rutæhh]

isnt hanami invisible and invulnerable? how does pochita get around that

 

[koopa3144]

Yeah I'm pretty sure Pochita can't see Hanami or harm them cause their Invulnerability to non CE attacks.

 

[GunshyFever]

isnt hanami invisible and invulnerable? how does pochita get around that

Pochita doesn't have eyes to see regardless, he senses movement. You can argue that this weakened version of Pochita has eye's which is completely true, but, that doesn't take away his normal method of perception which is sense, meaning regardless, he will be able to track Hanami and his movements. Regarding Hanami's invulnerability, this only works if the opponent has no cursed energy at all. However, utilizing verse equalization, Pochita would have a human amount of cursed energy and possibly an even higher amount, since devils represent a specific concept and get stronger the more they are feared which is garnering negative emotion (which by head cannon, should garner them some good C.E levels despite not being born from negative emotions), meaning he should be able to harm curses in general. The OP is gonna have to add V.E tho for this match to be valid.

 

[Robo432343]

pochita the goat

 

[LaserPrecision]

Pochita doesn't have eyes to see regardless, he senses movement. You can argue that this weakened version of Pochita has eye's which is completely true, but, that doesn't take away his normal method of perception which is sense, meaning regardless, he will be able to track Hanami and his movements. Regarding Hanami's invulnerability, this only works if the opponent has no cursed energy at all. However, utilizing verse equalization, Pochita would have a human amount of cursed energy and possibly an even higher amount, since devils represent a specific concept and get stronger the more they are feared which is garnering negative emotion (which by head cannon, should garner them some good C.E levels despite not being born from negative emotions), meaning he should be able to harm curses in general. The OP is gonna have to add V.E tho for this match to be valid.

Curses aren't just invisible by sight though. They just aren't sensed by any of the standard human perceptions. If you can recall, a woman had a Curse living on her shoulder, and wasn't aware of its existence at all, and had to be exorcised by Nanami. Likewise, in 0, Curses were living on a woman's shoulder, and she wasn't aware of it and it had to be consumed by Geto.

You're also incorrect about the invulnerability. The scan you got even confirms it. He's talking to Maki who as you stated has no Cursed Energy, and thus can't hit him with it. But that doesn't mean anyone WITH Cursed Energy can hurt him. Because we literally see in the very first chapter of the manga that Yuji is unable to exorcise/kill a Curse because he can't use Cursed Energy (As stated by Megumi). You need to be able to use Cursed Energy to hit a Curse with to bypass their invulnerability. A normal human has Cursed Energy, but is not able to channel/utilize it in their attacks like Sorcerers. That's why Yuji only gained the ability to exorcise Curses after consuming Sukuna's finger. So Cursed Energy or not, Pochita wouldn't be able to bypass it JUST by having it. That has never been enough.

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah this is a mismatch. Pochita shouldn't be able to interact with Hanami, and assuming Pochita could, Hanami has no way of killing Pochita and Pochita's also got the LS to rip apart Hanami. Pochita's also got the ap advantage by several times, so he's gonna rip her apart eventually.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Pochita can def bypass Hanami's Invulnerability through Conceptual Erasure. Cus Curses can still be "harmed" (Quotation marks), rather should I say "affected" by like a punch or kick, thing is that in the Grand scheme of things it pretty much amounts to nothing when its just physical. But when the byproduct of the action erases them altogether tho... then we got somethin

And since Curses are the Manifestation and embodiment of people's fears and negativity about that specific concept (similar to Devils... shocker). Pochita should be able to erase them then...

Though goodbye to nature and plants, only wonder how the Earth would function then...

And Assuming Pochita can sense Hanami in the first place

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Pochita can def bypass Hanami's Invulnerability through Conceptual Erasure. Cus Curses can still be "harmed" (Quotation marks), rather should I say "affected" by like a punch or kick, thing is that in the Grand scheme of things it pretty much amounts to nothing when its just physical. But when the byproduct of the action erases them altogether tho... then we got somethin

And since Curses are the Manifestation and embodiment of people's fears and negativity about that specific concept (similar to Devils... shocker). Pochita should be able to erase them then...

Though goodbye to nature and plants, only wonder how the Earth would function then...

And Assuming Pochita can sense Hanami in the first place

That would require that Pochita manage to eat Hanami which isn’t a guarantee cause they’re too large to be eaten whole and Pochita wouldn’t be able to rip Hanami apart to eat them in small bits. And even if he could Hanami can regen easily

 

[GunshyFever]

That would require that Pochita manage to eat Hanami which isn’t a guarantee cause they’re too large to be eaten whole and Pochita wouldn’t be able to rip Hanami apart to eat them in small bits. And even if he could Hanami can regen easily

Pochita doesn't need to eat the entire body to erase his opponent from existence, as shown with the mouth and ear devils. Once he eats that part of the body it technically also never have never existed in the first place.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Pochita doesn't need to eat the entire body to erase his opponent from existence, as shown with the mouth and ear devils. Once he eats that part of the body it technically also never have never existed in the first place.

I mean even in those instances iirc he still ate a majority of the body. And like I said for Hanami it’s going to have to be all or nothing cause any damage to Hanami isn’t sticking and the pieces are just gonna go back together immediately cause Pochita can’t use CE

 

[GunshyFever]

I mean even in those instances iirc he still ate a majority of the body.

For he ear devil he only ate his head and the entire concept ceased to exist

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

For he ear devil he only ate his head and the entire concept ceased to exist

Well then my memory sucks. Still my other point stands and I don’t think Pochita’s jaw is big enough to eat someone that big in one bite