Hajime no Ippo General Discussion Thread

[Dinozxd]

Yay! Now I'm wondering if some of the other calcs I did for the verse like glass breaking at the very least can get accepeted.

I don't think glass breaking feats are valid but I saw some more feats that I think are worth a try.

Tbh I'd prefer the higher speed calcs get evaluated as well, encase peeps wanna gatekeeps Miyata's Red Lightning sound portion of the statement there's more stating it's lightspeed than sound lol

I mean the lightspeed statements are most likely hyperboles but I have some more speed calcs in my mind.

Oh! Actually how about the Takamura window moment next?

Gonna check that one out.

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

I don't think glass breaking feats are valid but I saw some more feats that I think are worth a try.

I mean the lightspeed statements are most likely hyperboles but I have some more speed calcs in my mind.

Gonna check that one out.

That's strange, I still see so many glass feats accepted for other series on this site

The same scene the Red Lightning Punch is introduced Randy directly states from his POV that Miyata's Fist was turning into light and that his knuckles were glowing you also saw the illumination on Randy's face. The Dai Kaibou Magazine also reiterates his POV by stating he saw a Ray/Flash of Light before Miyata's fist made contact with his face this book also states the technique was the speed of light twice

 

[Dinozxd]

That's strange, I still see so many glass feats accepted for other series on this site

The same scene the Red Lightning Punch is introduced Randy directly states from his POV that Miyata's Fist was turning into light and that his knuckles were glowing you also saw the illumination on Randy's face.

They are probably just exaggerations and the "light" Randy saw might be Perception Manipulation as well. It's at least a better assumption than taking the lightspeed statements or the "Red Lightning" as face value.

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

I'm willing to take glass feats of they're accepted here

They are probably just exaggerations and the "light" Randy saw might be Perception Manipulation as well. It's at least a better assumption than taking the lightspeed statements or the "Red Lightning" as face value.

I do not recall Miyata having perception manipulation at all in this series, I also don't see how perception manip explains the direct illumination on Randy's face prior to the punch. The light even reached Miyata's dad face and Ippo's face so it's definitely real lol. An attack that's stated to not only be a user manipulating light but stated to be a Flash/Ray of light being the speed of light wouldn't really be an exaggeration when you think about it

 

[Dinozxd]

I do not recall Miyata having perception manipulation at all in this series,

Well there's a first time for everything lol.

I also don't see how perception manip explains the direct illumination on Randy's face prior to the punch. The light even reached Miyata's dad face and Ippo's face so it's definitely real lol.

Well is there anything else that directly suggests that it's some kind of lightning? The "illumation" we see might just be a manga effect after all.

An attack that's stated to not only be a user manipulating light but stated to be a Flash/Ray of light being the speed of light wouldn't really be an exaggeration when you think about it

I think it would be a big exaggeration in this case as the KE of Miyata's counter would reach Mountain Level KE whle no character in the verse shows any feats even close to that. I really don't think Hajime no Ippo characters are town or city destroyers lmao.

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

Well there's a first time for everything lol.

I'd still like to see a blog on em tbh lol

Well is there anything else that directly suggests that it's some kind of lightning? The "illumation" we see might just be a manga effect after all.

I don't think the manga effect would be an option when it's the same moment Randy goes "WTF IS THIS LIGHT!? HIS KNUCKLES ARE GLOWING!?"

I think it would be a big exaggeration in this case as the KE of Miyata's counter would reach Mountain Level KE whle no character in the verse shows any feats even close to that. I really don't think Hajime no Ippo characters are town or city destroyers lmao.

Ok now it's hilarious timing you say this because Takamura shatters a Glass material from a Helmet claimed as being capable of surviving a nuclear explosion with his Megaton Punch

 

[Dinozxd]

I don't think the manga effect would be an option when it's the same moment Randy goes "WTF IS THIS LIGHT!? HIS KNUCKLES ARE GLOWING!?"

Again like, glowing knuckles doesn't mean it's lightspeed Miyata probably went too fast his fist caused Randy to see weird images.

Ok now it's hilarious timing you say this because Takamura shatters a Glass material from a Helmet claimed as being capable of surviving a nuclear explosion with his Megaton Punch

That doesn't mean that the helmet took the nuclear explosion's full yield...

 

[TartaChocholate]

Anyone else hyped for Mashiba vs the Jojo Bizarre Adventure Escapee Marcus Rosario?

 

[Kachon123]

It's going to be so good. Can't wait

 

[TartaChocholate]

Mashiba has come such a long way both as a person and as a boxer, it's amazing.

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

Again like, glowing knuckles doesn't mean it's lightspeed Miyata probably went too fast his fist caused Randy to see weird images.

That feels very assumption based considering that's not really ever directly stated or at least implied. It's very clear and simple Morikawa's intent was for Miyata to dig deep and move fast and he generated light in the process while also having numerous statements saying this technique is launched at the speed of light

That doesn't mean that the helmet took the nuclear explosion's full yield...

Well I only said the glass material itself not the Helmet, Takamura shattered the glass

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

Also I'm hoping that maybe we could get the Ippo vending machine scene turned into a blog next lol once again your free to make any alternations in the blog if necessary

 

[Dinozxd]

That feels very assumption based considering that's not really ever directly stated or at least implied. It's very clear and simple Morikawa's intent was for Miyata to dig deep and move fast and he generated light in the process while also having numerous statements saying this technique is launched at the speed of light

The attack going at light speed is even more assumption based imo as anything you suggested as a justification can be regarded as manga effects, over exaggerations and outliers.

Well I only said the glass material itself not the Helmet, Takamura shattered the glass

The same thing still applies.

Also I'm hoping that maybe we could get the Ippo vending machine scene turned into a blog next lol once again your free to make any alternations in the blog if necessary

Well denting feats are kinda weird as of now (new standards are gonna get applied I think) so I wouldn't do it for now.

 

[Nierre]

lightspeed HnI is crazy

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

The attack going at light speed is even more assumption based imo as anything you suggested as a justification can be regarded as manga effects, over exaggerations and outliers.

It's literally the only thing people bring up regarding this technique in the future regarding Miyata's speed, it's the technique that manipulates light that's being thrown speed of light no one brings up the sound part (There's 3-5 statements of it being the speed of light) nor do I even think the sound part is still worth noting because it's not the first time the verse has gone past the speed of sound. The Hajime no Ippo Index also claims a Prime Nekota was reaching the speed of light after being claimed as having lightning speed prior and Randy moves in tandem with Miyata's Red Lightning punch the same moment it's thrown so I don't see the Outliers

The same thing still applies.

How? Takamura shatters a material stated to withstand a nuclear explosion with his Megaton Punch. For instance in another scenario it's no different then another character destroying an object stated to survive 500 Megatons, they would be Mountain Level simple

Well denting feats are kinda weird as of now (new standards are gonna get applied I think) so I wouldn't do it for now.

Ok now this one I'm new too, considering in this other vsbattle thread (It was a Baki one) they were still accepting denting feats. Just use the volume of the specific area being dented via yield strength

Some people don't do this well because they use the Height/Thickness of how deep the dent is instead of using the Height/Thickness of the object in question being dented

 

[Dinozxd]

It's literally the only thing people bring up regarding this technique in the future regarding Miyata's speed, it's the technique that manipulates light that's being thrown speed of light no one brings up the sound part (There's 3-5 statements of it being the speed of light) nor do I even think the sound part is still worth noting because it's not the first time the verse has gone past the speed of sound. The Hajime no Ippo Index also claims a Prime Nekota was reaching the speed of light after being claimed as having lightning speed prior and Randy moves in tandem with Miyata's Red Lightning punch the same moment it's thrown so I don't see the Outliers

Calling a fast dude "woah he's lightning fast" doesn't mean they are actually as fast as lightning as you would need extraordinary evidence to back up that claim like a character being able to exactly identify the speed of a character with a look confirming it is light speed, or an on screen timer shows the punch traveling at light speed.

How? Takamura shatters a material stated to withstand a nuclear explosion with his Megaton Punch. For instance in another scenario it's no different then another character destroying an object stated to survive 500 Megatons, they would be Mountain Level simple

Withstanding a nuclear explosion≠being as durable as a nuclesr explosion, as an explosion's intensity weakens as it travels more distance. There's also lots of problems with the statement as we get no proof for the material withstanding the explosion and the vaugeness of the statement makes it hard to find it reliable.

Some people don't do this well because they use the Height/Thickness of how deep the dent is instead of using the Height/Thickness of the object in question being dented

I think calcs that do this get rejected for now as well as one of mine got rejected even though I did this.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Wassup, y'all!

I've been trying to look for some opponents for WWE, and I was wondering if any of the Hajime No Ippo characters are a fair matchup for them?

 

[Dinozxd]

I've been trying to look for some opponents for WWE, and I was wondering if any of the Hajime No Ippo characters are a fair matchup for them?

Aren't they a bit too strong compared to Hajime no Ippo? It says that they scale to Small Building Level on the verse page.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Aren't they a bit too strong compared to Hajime no Ippo? It says that they scale to Small Building Level on the verse page.

They're labeled as "Wall level, possibly Small Building level"

 

[RandomGuy2345]

What's the AP of the Hajime No Ippo characters?

 

[Dinozxd]

They're labeled as "Wall level, possibly Small Building level"

Oh. Why is it "possibly"?

What's the AP of the Hajime No Ippo characters?

Ippo has a 231 kilojoules feat here. The major characters of the verse can all damage each other so all should scale around there.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Oh. Why is it "possibly"?

Refer to this.

Ippo has a 231 kilojoules feat here. The major characters of the verse can all damage each other so all should scale around there.

Oof.

9-B WWE characters are in the megajoules, so they'd one shot.

 

[Dinozxd]

Refer to this.

Hmmmm

Oof.

9-B WWE characters are in the megajoules, so they'd one shot.

Eh, I think there's a notable feat performed by Takamura that has potential to scale to megajoules. I can post it sometime later and we can make some matchups if it gets accepted.

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

Hey everyone it's been a while I just hope the updated Ippo profile is going good

Just also wanted to know how come this calc hasn't been approved yet

Hajime no Ippo Calc: Bear Attack

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As well as some other calcs from my Ippo doc lol. I already know people will still gatekeep Ippo as Transonic so I might as well at least just post the calcs that should get recognition and if alterations when being converted are necessary then that's fine

Attack Potency/Durability Related Calculations:
Ippo lifts a weight with his teeth/His potential lifting strength


Kimura breaks through a car tower


Fodder Highschool Thug gets launched through a window


Takamura breaks 3 Roof Tiles with his Fingers


Takamura shakes a Boxing Ring with Hawk


Arnie's power is compared to a Crocodile's Bite because he can shatter bones
https://imgur.com/a/9em5cec

Takamura shatters the glass of a helmet stated as being made of the same material of an astronaut's helmet
https://imgur.com/a/ZVJp4UO

Takamura survives getting launched through a steel reinforced window
https://imgur.com/a/6KoZU8D

Ippo shakes his house
https://imgur.com/a/ZGnVipQ

Speed Calculations:
Arnie's bloody cross intercepts Miyata's punch
https://imgur.com/a/hUtUOPu

Takamura dodges a close punch from Larry Bernard
https://imgur.com/a/takamura-dodges-larry-bernard-0siA0xL

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

Ok now imma just post random noteworthy skill feats lol

-Ippo memorized Miyata's fighting style while Shadow boxing and does some Baki level materializing to imagine he's facing Miyata right in front of him and Kamogawa can see the Miyata that Ippo is fighting

-Miyata states during their second match that Ippo is keeping one step ahead of him. Fuji even notes of Miyata being overwhelmed

-Ippo studied some video tapes of Kimura and Aoki's opponents and Kimura notes Ippo mimicked them perfectly

-Sendo and Mashiba note even though certain moves in the verse are easy to copy at a glance it requires specific body builds and a lot of skill to use them at peak performance

-Ippo predicts Naomichi's entire tactics after fighting him for one round

-Ippo read Saeki's rhythm to keep up with him despite Saeki being massively faster than him to the point he used Saeki's rhythm against him. This is reiterated in the Hajime no Ippo 1996 Guidebook. He also kept pace with Sendo's rhythm in his second match against him.

-Kamogawa states that Ippo kept pace with Karasawa despite Karasawa being a high level out boxer + he's fast & skilled. Takamura and Itagaki state that Ippo was in full control of Karasawa's movements the whole match

-Takamura notes Ippo was reading 2-3 steps ahead of Itagaki during his sparring match and Itagaki is a textbook outboxer

-Ippo used Take's own tactics against him

-Alfredo Gonzalez's fighting style is stated an exact genuine article of Ricardo's fighting style by Date who fought Ricardo twice for several rounds, while initially being claimed as high level and nearly unpredictable (More on this in the next post). Ippo proceeds to adapt to his fighting style over the course of the fight and Kamogawa says Ippo is now immune to feints

-Miyata states that Ippo has a "calm and precise analysis of everything" regarding his fighting style and Richardo's fighting style

-Ippo figured out Keith Dragon was a Southpaw via seeing his split second movements while playing mahjong while he was using both hands after initially he couldn't see Keith's hands and could tell Randy switched fighting styles faster than Fuji could based on just his instincts

-Ippo could keep pace with Volg's strategic mind games during his fight against Mike Elliot. Volg's coach Dankichi states this fight was entirely based on intelligence with Mike comparing it to a game of Chess. The Hajime no Ippo 2017 Guidebook even states this chess match was a high level one


-Ippo has enhanced senses that allows his body to react to attacks he couldn't see coming from his blindspots


-While Ippo was practicing to become like Mashiba's next opponent Marcus Rosario, Mashiba's coach states Ippo's fighting style is a perfect copy of Rosario


-Commentary even states Ippo actually had "Courage, Caution and Foresight" against Alfredo and his unpredictable boxing style


-Hoshi is a high level Karate fighter who primarily trains in Karate and utilizes Karate moves in his boxing style


-Itagaki's fighting style has high level skill that focuses on unconscious instincts and is unpredictable
https://imgur.com/a/CzN7ddv

-Date is stated to utilize "All aspects of Boxing to a High Level"
https://imgur.com/a/tJDeL1S

-Take fighting style is finding any weakness to his opponent to the point even Date believed Take could defeat him
https://imgur.com/a/CvBcyPd

-Fuji is a reporter who's seen the fists and fighting style of tens of thousands of boxers with a pro's level analysis
https://imgur.com/a/N03OeIl

-Volg is the best from Russia with an "All Around" style and fought in 200 matches prior to his pro career
https://imgur.com/a/NIzkcj4

-Miyata learned everything about boxing simply from watching his father fight as a kid and while he's still a kid could shadow box like a pro boxer despite having no form of proper training at this moment. Now he has evolved his father's fighting style far beyond what it used to be. He's consistently stated as being a genuis fighter and in the WHAT IF fights sections of the Hajime no Ippo 1996 Guidebook he fought Date and won via KO purely off of better tactics

Miyata learned everything about Boxing from watching and can evolve his fighting style mid fight:

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-Wally can use Bryan Hawk's Wild fighting style which utilizes Infinite variations of punches and surpasses conventional boxing, Its effective enough to defeat those with weapons and firearms, It simultaneously attacks/defends and is claimed as an alter ver of Ricardo's Perfect style, Miguel even claims Wally is better than Hawk because the reason why he made Wally a boxer in the first place was to find someone who could even compete with Takamura

Hajime no Ippo:The Wild Boxing Style is unpredictable with high level alternate versions of techniques, can defeat those with weapons & firearms and has an Infinite number of punches to choose from:

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-David Eagle is an olympic gold medalist who uses an extremely high level by-the-book fighting style that focuses on observing his opponents fighting abilities, is always one to two steps ahead with brilliant strategies and was considered a counter to Takamura’s fighting style

David is an olympics gold medalist who fights by-the-book at an "extremely high level", his style focuses on observing fighting abilities and rythm, is always one or two steps ahead with brilliant strategies and is considered a counter to Takamura's

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David being an olympic gold medalist means he must also be good at karate, fencing, archery, wrestling and judo

https://www.olympics.com/en/sports/

-Takamura learned everything about boxing from Kamogawa. It's shown to be capable of dealing with the weaknesses of boxing like leg based attacks, has high levels of textbook professional fighting and adapting to unpredictable attacks, can defeat brilliant and effective strategies with baited surprise attacks, Takamura is capable of using the Wild style and David states Takamura’s surpasses Hawk, Takamura can copy other fighting styles on the fly and surpass the original to break his opponent's mentality, in the words of Takamura himself "Mamoru Takamura can do anything!"

Takamura skill feats: - Album on Imgur

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-Ricardo's Boxing style is all high level, stated as being perfect to the point he has become boxing incarnate he is immune to feints, can use unpredictable moves and "read,see,feel and predict everything" to the point he can predict feints, unpredictable attacks and predict predictions. Miyata even states Ricardo's Boxing style is an evolve form of his own, the same fighting style Miyata has that defeated one which utilizes all aspects of boxing

Ricardo Martinez Skill List:

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-In a fight of accelerated developments to increasing stats and learning new methods of attack, (Ricardo VS Wally) Ricardo came out on top

Ricardo VS Wally the battle of accelerated developments:

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Resistances for Ippo
Air Manipulation: Fought through oxygen deprivation.

Cyanosis

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Pressure Point Strikes: Ippo was still capable of moving after having been hit in his solar plexus and in his entire nervous system, leaving him deprived of air and stunned.

Ippo muscles through getting his nervous system paralyzed: - Album on Imgur

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Heat Resistance: Withstands hits from Ponchai

Ippo withstands hits from ponchai's burning punches:

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Who’s hits are lethal enough to leave behind severe burn marks.

Ippo withstands Ponchai's burning punch:

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Fear Manipulation: Defeated Sendo and took continuous punches from him head on, who’s punches were stated and shown to give his opponents fear and PTSD.

Sendo's punches can install fear and give PTSD:

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Fought boxers that were known as mentally destroying their opponents and Ippo was still fully capable of fighting. Kamogawa even states Ippo is willing to keep fighting even in the most hopless of situations.

Fighting Spirit lets Ippo fight his way through having his nerves Targeted and mental state weakened: - Album on Imgur

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Accelerated Development: Defeated and outdid Wally

Ippo defeats Wally after getting used to his fighting style:

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Who was a boxer known as adapting and growing over the course of a match in physical capabilities as well as battle tactics.

Ricardo VS Wally the battle of accelerated developments:

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Wally’s development was so good even Ricardo Martinez, the strongest featherweight boxer in the series acknowledged it.

Ricardo Martinez is the strongest featherweight fighter in the World:

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Analytical Prediction: Consistently outsmarted boxers who also used analytical prediction in their fights to the point he even used their own tactics against them.

Ippo's Big Brain Time Moments: - Album on Imgur

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[TartaChocholate]

Ok now imma just post random noteworthy skill feats lol

-Ippo memorized Miyata's fighting style while Shadow boxing and does some Baki level materializing to imagine he's facing Miyata right in front of him and Kamogawa can see the Miyata that Ippo is fighting

-Miyata states during their second match that Ippo is keeping one step ahead of him. Fuji even notes of Miyata being overwhelmed

-Ippo studied some video tapes of Kimura and Aoki's opponents and Kimura notes Ippo mimicked them perfectly

-Sendo and Mashiba note even though certain moves in the verse are easy to copy at a glance it requires specific body builds and a lot of skill to use them at peak performance

-Ippo predicts Naomichi's entire tactics after fighting him for one round

-Ippo read Saeki's rhythm to keep up with him despite Saeki being massively faster than him to the point he used Saeki's rhythm against him. This is reiterated in the Hajime no Ippo 1996 Guidebook. He also kept pace with Sendo's rhythm in his second match against him.

-Kamogawa states that Ippo kept pace with Karasawa despite Karasawa being a high level out boxer + he's fast & skilled. Takamura and Itagaki state that Ippo was in full control of Karasawa's movements the whole match

-Takamura notes Ippo was reading 2-3 steps ahead of Itagaki during his sparring match and Itagaki is a textbook outboxer

-Ippo used Take's own tactics against him

-Alfredo Gonzalez's fighting style is stated an exact genuine article of Ricardo's fighting style by Date who fought Ricardo twice for several rounds, while initially being claimed as high level and nearly unpredictable (More on this in the next post). Ippo proceeds to adapt to his fighting style over the course of the fight and Kamogawa says Ippo is now immune to feints

-Miyata states that Ippo has a "calm and precise analysis of everything" regarding his fighting style and Richardo's fighting style

-Ippo figured out Keith Dragon was a Southpaw via seeing his split second movements while playing mahjong while he was using both hands after initially he couldn't see Keith's hands and could tell Randy switched fighting styles faster than Fuji could based on just his instincts

-Ippo could keep pace with Volg's strategic mind games during his fight against Mike Elliot. Volg's coach Dankichi states this fight was entirely based on intelligence with Mike comparing it to a game of Chess. The Hajime no Ippo 2017 Guidebook even states this chess match was a high level one


-Ippo has enhanced senses that allows his body to react to attacks he couldn't see coming from his blindspots


-While Ippo was practicing to become like Mashiba's next opponent Marcus Rosario, Mashiba's coach states Ippo's fighting style is a perfect copy of Rosario


-Commentary even states Ippo actually had "Courage, Caution and Foresight" against Alfredo and his unpredictable boxing style


-Hoshi is a high level Karate fighter who primarily trains in Karate and utilizes Karate moves in his boxing style


-Itagaki's fighting style has high level skill that focuses on unconscious instincts and is unpredictable
https://imgur.com/a/CzN7ddv

-Date is stated to utilize "All aspects of Boxing to a High Level"
https://imgur.com/a/tJDeL1S

-Take fighting style is finding any weakness to his opponent to the point even Date believed Take could defeat him
https://imgur.com/a/CvBcyPd

-Fuji is a reporter who's seen the fists and fighting style of tens of thousands of boxers with a pro's level analysis
https://imgur.com/a/N03OeIl

-Volg is the best from Russia with an "All Around" style and fought in 200 matches prior to his pro career
https://imgur.com/a/NIzkcj4

-Miyata learned everything about boxing simply from watching his father fight as a kid and while he's still a kid could shadow box like a pro boxer despite having no form of proper training at this moment. Now he has evolved his father's fighting style far beyond what it used to be. He's consistently stated as being a genuis fighter and in the WHAT IF fights sections of the Hajime no Ippo 1996 Guidebook he fought Date and won via KO purely off of better tactics

Miyata learned everything about Boxing from watching and can evolve his fighting style mid fight:

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-Wally can use Bryan Hawk's Wild fighting style which utilizes Infinite variations of punches and surpasses conventional boxing, Its effective enough to defeat those with weapons and firearms, It simultaneously attacks/defends and is claimed as an alter ver of Ricardo's Perfect style, Miguel even claims Wally is better than Hawk because the reason why he made Wally a boxer in the first place was to find someone who could even compete with Takamura

Hajime no Ippo:The Wild Boxing Style is unpredictable with high level alternate versions of techniques, can defeat those with weapons & firearms and has an Infinite number of punches to choose from:

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-David Eagle is an olympic gold medalist who uses an extremely high level by-the-book fighting style that focuses on observing his opponents fighting abilities, is always one to two steps ahead with brilliant strategies and was considered a counter to Takamura’s fighting style

David is an olympics gold medalist who fights by-the-book at an "extremely high level", his style focuses on observing fighting abilities and rythm, is always one or two steps ahead with brilliant strategies and is considered a counter to Takamura's

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David being an olympic gold medalist means he must also be good at karate, fencing, archery, wrestling and judo

https://www.olympics.com/en/sports/

-Takamura learned everything about boxing from Kamogawa. It's shown to be capable of dealing with the weaknesses of boxing like leg based attacks, has high levels of textbook professional fighting and adapting to unpredictable attacks, can defeat brilliant and effective strategies with baited surprise attacks, Takamura is capable of using the Wild style and David states Takamura’s surpasses Hawk, Takamura can copy other fighting styles on the fly and surpass the original to break his opponent's mentality, in the words of Takamura himself "Mamoru Takamura can do anything!"

Takamura skill feats: - Album on Imgur

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-Ricardo's Boxing style is all high level, stated as being perfect to the point he has become boxing incarnate he is immune to feints, can use unpredictable moves and "read,see,feel and predict everything" to the point he can predict feints, unpredictable attacks and predict predictions. Miyata even states Ricardo's Boxing style is an evolve form of his own, the same fighting style Miyata has that defeated one which utilizes all aspects of boxing

Ricardo Martinez Skill List:

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-In a fight of accelerated developments to increasing stats and learning new methods of attack, (Ricardo VS Wally) Ricardo came out on top

Ricardo VS Wally the battle of accelerated developments:

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Resistances for Ippo
Air Manipulation: Fought through oxygen deprivation.

Cyanosis

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Pressure Point Strikes: Ippo was still capable of moving after having been hit in his solar plexus and in his entire nervous system, leaving him deprived of air and stunned.

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Heat Resistance: Withstands hits from Ponchai

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Who’s hits are lethal enough to leave behind severe burn marks.

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Fear Manipulation: Defeated Sendo and took continuous punches from him head on, who’s punches were stated and shown to give his opponents fear and PTSD.

Sendo's punches can install fear and give PTSD:

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Fought boxers that were known as mentally destroying their opponents and Ippo was still fully capable of fighting. Kamogawa even states Ippo is willing to keep fighting even in the most hopless of situations.

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Accelerated Development: Defeated and outdid Wally

Ippo defeats Wally after getting used to his fighting style:

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Who was a boxer known as adapting and growing over the course of a match in physical capabilities as well as battle tactics.

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Wally’s development was so good even Ricardo Martinez, the strongest featherweight boxer in the series acknowledged it.

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Analytical Prediction: Consistently outsmarted boxers who also used analytical prediction in their fights to the point he even used their own tactics against them.

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Damn! That's an impressive compilation, excellent work here!

Did you read the latest chapter? Miyata confirms that Ricardo has such a good analytical ability and capability to process information while fighting, while considering such vast amount of possibilities, that he's like a human computer. He even says that it's not that different from looking into the future.

 

[Dinozxd]

Did you read the latest chapter? Miyata confirms that Ricardo has such a good analytical ability and capability to process information while fighting, while considering such vast amount of possibilities, that he's like a human computer. He even says that it's not that different from looking into the future.

Can you send some scans of that? That's literally a possible E.G combat intelligence feat lol.

 

[TartaChocholate]

Here we go

 

[Dinozxd]

Here we go

The human computer statement might just be an exaggeration by Miyata to show how calculating Ricardo is, but there is no doubt that he destroys the verse in terms of Analytical Prediction. Like, even Miyata (who is probably the most skilled featherweight in the series besides Ricardo) got overwhelmed by his mind and got his attack read before he even attempted it. He really is monster man.

By the way, i decided to just breeze through the manga (till the final of season 1 of the anime) to add references to the new Ippo profile i stopped editing like a year ago then just start reading the manga normally from chapter 315 onwards (which should be where season 2 starts i think?) and edit the profile as i go on.

 

[TartaChocholate]

The human computer statement might just be an exaggeration by Miyata to show how calculating Ricardo is, but there is no doubt that he destroys the verse in terms of Analytical Prediction. Like, even Miyata (who is probably the most skilled featherweight in the series besides Ricardo) got overwhelmed by his mind and got his attack read before he even attempted it.

Ah, yeah, I meant the computer comparison as a figure of speech as well (I haven't forgotten that, dramatized and all, HnI still tries to be a fairly grounded manga). What's impressive is that Ricardo can consider so many scenarios and take measures for them in real time even as he fights that this indeed feels like he might as well see the future. Seems like a deeper look on how he ended dismantling Wally. Remember how, despite Wally's asbolutely chaotic fighting style, Ricardo still narrowed down the possibilities to where would Wally attack based on the body surface you are allowed to hit in Boxing and minor things such as biases and reactions Wally had and then proceeded to dominate until Wally changed around completely his approach.

He really is monster man.

Sendo is so gonna get Joe Yabuki'd...

By the way, i decided to just breeze through the manga (till the final of season 1 of the anime) to add references to the new Ippo profile i stopped editing like a year ago then just start reading the manga normally from chapter 315 onwards (which should be where season 2 starts i think?) and edit the profile as i go on.

I think it would be for the best, given how much stuff there is. Easy does it.

 

[Lucia_Ohma]

Damn! That's an impressive compilation, excellent work here!

Did you read the latest chapter? Miyata confirms that Ricardo has such a good analytical ability and capability to process information while fighting, while considering such vast amount of possibilities, that he's like a human computer. He even says that it's not that different from looking into the future.

I actually did lol I even updated my Ippo blog to look more modern g1 blog-esk with a lot more stuff

Ippo Makunouchi Blog Draft Template

Background Ippo Makunouchi "I want to be strong too! I want to be reborn! How do strong people feel?" "What does it mean to be strong?" This question has crossed the minds of countless individuals around the world with varying answers: some find it in physicality, some in intelligence, and som...

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[Lucia_Ohma]

The human computer statement might just be an exaggeration by Miyata to show how calculating Ricardo is, but there is no doubt that he destroys the verse in terms of Analytical Prediction. Like, even Miyata (who is probably the most skilled featherweight in the series besides Ricardo) got overwhelmed by his mind and got his attack read before he even attempted it. He really is monster man.

By the way, i decided to just breeze through the manga (till the final of season 1 of the anime) to add references to the new Ippo profile i stopped editing like a year ago then just start reading the manga normally from chapter 315 onwards (which should be where season 2 starts i think?) and edit the profile as i go on.

At this point I'd recommend just skimming my Ippo doc and picking which one sounds cool to you lol

 

[TartaChocholate]

I actually did lol I even updated my Ippo blog to look more modern g1 blog-esk with a lot more stuff

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Background Ippo Makunouchi "I want to be strong too! I want to be reborn! How do strong people feel?" "What does it mean to be strong?" This question has crossed the minds of countless individuals around the world with varying answers: some find it in physicality, some in intelligence, and som...

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Funny how the image of Ippo's durability section is him getting kicked in the big mara by Takamura.

A couple of things: Ippo beating Wally wasn't so much as Ippo overcoming Wally's talent and skills, in the aftermath of the fight Kamogawa openly says that Ippo pulled it off due to the difference in experience and preparation that Ippo had advantage in, and were Miguel and Wally to request a match with Ippo again, Kamogawa would immediately refuse since Ippo no longer has a chance of winning (meaning he couldn't just overcome Wally again). Though modern Ippo is likely a much different tale.

Another thing regarding Ricardo. Seems to be an issue with the translation. In the one I read from the Hajime no Ippo Reddit, the dialogue mentions that Ricardo is better despite Miyata being faster and Sendo being stronger. Which kinda lines up with a line from Bill during Ricardo's match with Date, where Bill theorizes that Date must have fought someone with stronger punches than Ricardo (referring to Ippo) and the manga more or less says that Ippo and Sendo are even on terms of power.

 

[Dinozxd]

Which kinda lines up with a line from Bill during Ricardo's match with Date, where Bill theorizes that Date must have fought someone with stronger punches than Ricardo (referring to Ippo) and the manga more or less says that Ippo and Sendo are even on terms of power.

Ricardo also confirms this in the same match as far as I remember.

 

[GHOSTPEPPER.2827]

I actually did lol I even updated my Ippo blog to look more modern g1 blog-esk with a lot more stuff

Ippo Makunouchi Blog Draft Template

Background Ippo Makunouchi "I want to be strong too! I want to be reborn! How do strong people feel?" "What does it mean to be strong?" This question has crossed the minds of countless individuals around the world with varying answers: some find it in physicality, some in intelligence, and som...

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