Grimm=Grimm vs William The Duck: Battle for #4 7-B

[Zenkaibattery1]

Hopefully this doesn't become a shit show like the last William match

Grimm=Grimm vs William The Duck

Speed equalized

Both 7-B

William The Duck:

Grimm:

Inconclusive:

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Isn't Grim Grim abstract?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Doesn't say on his profile

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Non-Corporeal (Has no material form, and should have a superior nature to Kikai and Critters which only exists as possibilities, and are impervious to all aspects of physics)

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Pretty sure that is referencing just no physical form. There isn't an embodiment of anything. Although someone knowledgeable should explain this.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I don't think he embodies anything, but can William affect him at all?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

He can effect Non-Corpeal, Intangible and non-existent beings, so probably

 

[Firephoenixearl]

He can effect Non-Corpeal

Depends on the level. Grim Grim is more non-corporeal than possibilities.

 

[Overlord775]

Kikai's Non-Corpoality is consistered as Type 1 Abtract Existance, as seen by Dr. Gii's profile

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Ok.

Even with that, while Bill himself won't be able to effect him, his Shadow Magic should be able too though, since it is derived from a Type 1 Abstract being anyway, and allowed other Shadow weilders to contend with abstracts.

William's most potent hax comes from Shadow Magic as well.

So with that out of the way, what can Grimm do against William's passive power nullification? And 4-D mind hax. If he can survive William's passives it's probably inconclusive, since neither would be able to kill each other

 

[Overlord775]

BTW, is there any proof that his shadow magic scales to Spider ?

Because just havin you powers ifted by someone doesn't necesarelly make them equal to said person

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Every other character that was granted Shadow Magic was shown to effect abstracts later on. Such as The Player effecting Grandfather Spider himself, WoG stating Shadow Morganthe could have harmed or even killed Spider if she wanted too, etc. There's no reason William wouldn't scale to every other character that had Shadow Magic.

 

[Overlord775]

Ok

So, thing, Grimm may or may not even have a mind, not sure on this tho

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I asked a question about mind hax earlier. According to staff, people can still be mindhaxxed even if they don't have a brain or a mind, as long as the mind hax in question doesn't work by manipulating the brain.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Saw this for a while but had to talk with Celestial whose the only other main active member in WAB on Grimm=Grimm's state of nature.

G=G may end up having the the superior to possibilities and other junk removed. What's known from Inganock that G=G is from is that they're the source of everything that happened there including being the creator of Critters and Kikai on top of being a Cracking Being (being made up of a Mathmethical Formula that can control and warp physics...somehow, and be impervious and above the laws of physics) but there was never any point that even implied it having a superior existence to it. At the least it's just a Non-Coporeal being that also exists as the "Clown that dances at the edge of everyone's vision" and this includes Stolen Ones like Apondance Lemure Lemure whose also a Kikai.

This may or may not even give it Non-Existent Physiology Type 1 but that'll be talked about separately in another WAB CRT Celestial will be making.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Grimm profile is gonna be revised in an upcoming crt, basically he isn't a possibility, he is a mathematical equation, that is an illusion that everyone sees and dreams about, and he may or may not be non-existent, that will be discussed in the thread.