Danger Sense can help with this.
OOC.
OOC.
Obito's Regen is only Low-Mid.
Obito has both advanced danger sense (6 paths sage mode) and precog (sharingan) which he's incredibly skilled. I would say that if anything Obitos danger sense gives him a greater advantage than Dekus gives him.
Genjutsu isn't OOC. Obito has used it repeatedly in the story. Such as against Kurama, Yagura, Konan, or Kakashi. It may appear OOC because most of Obitos on screen opponents had some sort of anti genjutsu mechanism but whenever Obito had the chance and a reason to use it, he very much did.
Again untrue. Obito admits the reason he's not using the rinnegan on screen isn't because he doesn't want to but because
So? That means Obito can repeatedly sacrifice half of his body in order to get a single solid strike on Deku and while Deku dies or is fatally weakened, Obito just regenerates back.
He used it against Kurama to invade the village, he used it against Konan in a very specific way (it's even strange to classify Izanagi as genjutsu, it rewrites your own death, it's not something like an “illusion”), against Yagura it involved Kirigakure and against Kakashi it involved Rin. None of these moments involved a direct fight.
So why didn't he use it against anyone as a Jinchuriki, not even the Edo Hokages?
No, both have wincons.
Why obito must use human path on jinchurikis? If he had used it on them, their bijuu would have died alongside themselves, which would have corrupted obito's plan. Obito didn't use human path on yamato who was a small part of his plan because as obito himself admitted, he was able to use it on him but ripping his soul would kill him and he doesn't want it
Of course they don't. Because the opponent can't fight when they're under genjutsu…
He only fought Naruto with Bee who could just break him out. Chio straight up tells us 2v1 is the key to counter sharingan genjutsu.
He was toying with those so that's a really bad example.
He only fought Guy with 3 other people at once. Again 4v1 is a hard counter against genjutsu.
Literally a perfect Jinchuriki, the worst nightmare of genjutsu…
He did, on Kurama. Kurama alone requires MS genjutsu to manipulate so there's no reason to believe he could also catch Minato while already controlling such a difficult target.
His main opponent was Naruto, the number 1 most experienced rinnegan fighter in the show.
He didn't even fight them besides blitzing them when he was unstable/mindless. Plus he had TSO which, unlike rinnegan, hard counters edo tensei regeneration.
Any hit from Deku can kill Obito. And Fa Jin is an insta-blitz that Obito couldn't block with TSOs.
They start with eye contact and from there... it's GGs.
OOC.
When did Obito use genjutsu as his first move against his opponent?
A genjutsu is not broken immediately. Even if Bee or Naruto could break them, Obito could do whatever he wanted.
True, maybe because it's part of his personality...
He could use it at the exact moment Minato broke the seal.
Naruto already fought Nagato and that didn't stop him from falling for Ningendo.
Yes, you yourself explained why genjutsu is OOC.
The second Kurama popped out of Kushina and as far as we know the second he popped up to Yagura (given any lage actual Kage level combat would be instantly noticed yet nobody knew about Obito).
Yeah assuming he could pull off eye contact in a 1v2+ and afford to waste chakra on that.
Those were literal fodders while Obito was straight up untouchable and several tiers above them. So yeah it's a part of his personality, but this case is completely different from them.
He considered Minato so threatening he straight up dipped after that. Saying he doesn't use genjutsu in character because of that is like saying he doesn't use kamui or taijutsu in character since he didn't use those either.
Didn't matter to Obito (who also wasn't aware of the fact)
Yeah, when he's fighting massively inferior fodders who can infinitely regenerate.
this is start of grace?
You can't because you both have wincons.
I don't know if a rule is needed, but we gotta stop having these discussions.
Not going to try to argue with you. Take it to the mods when it happens
So could Deku if he landed a direct blow
Not really, we already seen Juubi Jin's survive things that would otherwise kill people right away, like getting split in half, losing a vast amount of their torso etc, Deku would have to hit him continuously and even then, he'd have to overcome his regen with some form of hax. Obito likely uses the Six Point Seal and spams Bijuu Dama's, while hiding (in character) within the TSO
Yeah but there's about a 1000x difference between Dekus AP and Obitos durability here. And Deku definitely has enough range to hit Obitos entire body with a shockwave caused by his punch.
Bijuu damas are not even scratching Deku. They wouldn't even tickle him due to the AP difference
Yea if he were to hit his entire body, then he would likely die. By direct hit I thought you were just referring to the standard melee range of him punching, that alone just wouldn't be enough. But yea, I agree with what's said above on why he likely wouldn't be capable of doing that.
The damage done by a single punch from Deku would be worse than an average human athlete getting hit by a grenade.
