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GOKU TEENAGE SPEED UPGRADE

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This is not about kid goku being stated as faster than lightning, and that being apart of the training, that isn't really concrete, we don't have much on that, instead, it's start of dragon ball goku.

now before you say anything about the moving at 20 meters per second, well guess what, start of dragon ball goku has a feat that you guys put at 30 meters per second, so that's a futile point.

anyway, he's actually subsonic, as seen in this Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (pre training), and isn't inconsistent, Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet, Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet, Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet, Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet (after training).
 
anyway, what do you think of the revisions, is it also possible that you can get an admin to review this?
 
These actually match the speeds listed on his profile. 21 Budokai Goku has also Supersonic+ combat speed.
 
@Dark649

are you an admin, if so, what do you think about the profile being increased to subsonic or super sonic, it makes sense, as his combat speed is listed as super sonic, combat speed and travel speed are relative, you'll see this if you watch the fight with tao and goku
 
He just outpaced the reactions of the Peak Human opponents, for the Superhuman ones he was faster than them and had Supersonic+ combat speed while he did so. It's also consistenet by the Roshi training.
 
he didn't outpace the reactions, if you see the first panel, he looks at goku after he gets to the blade, and still tries to swipe him as goku moves, so he couldn't see him.

this guy literally says that goku dissapears in this panel Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet, so that isn't true.

also, i said that combat speed and travel speed are relative in dbz, here is proof Read manga Dragon Ball Chapter 086 online in high quality, tao moves faster than goku can punch, instead of goku.

isn't outracing the reactions of peakhuman opponents subsonic as well.
 
Because even those with Superhuman speed can do it as Goku just moved below the fighter and Tao is Hypersonic+.
 
Goku was Hypersonic+ in the Red Ribbon Arc, he moved through that fighter with slow reactions and had Supersonic+ combat speed against Giran, i will wait for other Admins about these.
 
what about that FTE feat, which is consistent, you didn't really debunk them, as i explained
 
I'm not sure, im sure a few can be calced though, he has a handful of moving to fast to see feats, they can be calced like saber against lancer in the zero novel.
 
seems fine, should we get more admins, aren't FTE movements calculated by movements per 30th-60th of a second or something, each feat would be subsonic, the bear feat could be at least 60 - 180 meters per second in such case.
 
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