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Goku from RR takes on the entire US military! Bloodlusted and morals off. Who wins?
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Goku (Red Ribbon Saga) vs U.S. Army
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I don´t know if Kid Goku would take a nuclear bomb or white phosphorus.
I dunno.
I dunno.
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High hypersonic speed is likely still low enough to be hit with large area bombardment of conventional weapons. The individual shots might be way to slow, but through the density of the bombardement of an army as large as the whole U.S. Army is likely too much to dodge. With City-Block durability he can also still be harmed by such things (even though not killed with one shot). So against conventional weapons it already isn't all that easy for goku to win.
If it comes to nuclear weapons I would certainly give it to the US. He may be able to outspeed the nuclear weapon itself, but once they notice that he does that using 7000 nuclear warheads on a large area will make it impossible to dodge even with such speed.
The U.S. also didn't quite destroy all of their chemical weapons yet, I believe. But not sure about that. Poison gas and the like would be effective as well, I believe. (in that case they might be able to do the trick through a trap using that)
Gokus stamina might be a problem as well, given that the battle would likely take weeks.
If it comes to nuclear weapons I would certainly give it to the US. He may be able to outspeed the nuclear weapon itself, but once they notice that he does that using 7000 nuclear warheads on a large area will make it impossible to dodge even with such speed.
The U.S. also didn't quite destroy all of their chemical weapons yet, I believe. But not sure about that. Poison gas and the like would be effective as well, I believe. (in that case they might be able to do the trick through a trap using that)
Gokus stamina might be a problem as well, given that the battle would likely take weeks.
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SSGDanny said:
Well, for an army you can likely assume they are spread throughout the country (also because things like intercontinental missles would hardly be in one place).
That aside given that morals are off and bloodlust is on they would actually do that, so basically doing that and hoping that at least one soldier somehow survives for 5 minutes after doing so would work as well.
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America Wins, baby.
- Eagle squaks in the name of freedom*
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I think it would be hard for me to know the outcome. I mean, would the army need to like plan out or brainstorm to how it goes in the environment instead of going head on in a disorganized manner in the battlefield? And I think Goku would use the Kinto'un to deal with jets and with further range with his Nyoibo, and I have seen him only hurt slightly by bullets from a pistol, machine gun, sniper rifle, Derringer, some other guns there. I don't know how the US Army does it in the battlefield than I do with Goku.
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Without preps, Goku can go all out and take on the US Army by himself,
With preps, the US Amry may have the edge. They can send out the CIA or the NSA and use their global intelligence center to conduct recon on Goku, find his weakness which is his tail, and use it in their advantage. THey cand estroy Goku by propaganda alone, turning everyone against him. Abduct his friends, turn them into mind slaves MK-ultra style, and assassinate GOku.
But that's just my opinion XD (Oh wait.. is the whole US Military involve. If not then my bad)
With preps, the US Amry may have the edge. They can send out the CIA or the NSA and use their global intelligence center to conduct recon on Goku, find his weakness which is his tail, and use it in their advantage. THey cand estroy Goku by propaganda alone, turning everyone against him. Abduct his friends, turn them into mind slaves MK-ultra style, and assassinate GOku.
But that's just my opinion XD (Oh wait.. is the whole US Military involve. If not then my bad)
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If they have prep time, shouldn't Goku have that as well?
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SunWukong1986 said:
an army is always prepped,all they do is prep <.<
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I think it would be like how it does with Frieza's soldiers against the Z Fighters, about 170 soldiers for each fighters as Roshi said before. So... how many soldiers are there in the US Army?
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US army overwhelmes Goku easily in that ark, Goku would have to silently take them out of he wants to stand a chance but we know that he is not stealthy. The army will tier him out, causing him to get weaker over time. (the red ribbon army is a joke compared to our current military)
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goku can outrun any planes at this point
but all that is needed is a normal nuclear bomb, or even a mere W54 warhead can do the work
but all that is needed is a normal nuclear bomb, or even a mere W54 warhead can do the work
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If the U.S. Army is winning, then make Goku stare at the Moon and let's see how that fight goes. (¬ᴗ¬)
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in that case, he wud end up being 8-A
tougher to handle, but not impossible to beat
goku will be a nuisance at this point
but even a 22nd budokai oozaru goku wont win
sure he is fast, but i dont think a mindless goku would actually try to doge nukes
overall, KP saga goku is the first time he could beat any prepared major army
tougher to handle, but not impossible to beat
goku will be a nuisance at this point
but even a 22nd budokai oozaru goku wont win
sure he is fast, but i dont think a mindless goku would actually try to doge nukes
overall, KP saga goku is the first time he could beat any prepared major army
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Going oozaru would make Goku a predictable and easy target, one nuke and he is goneAlexcar3000 said:
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Mmm... isn't RR saga Goku stronger than Roshi? I know about the power levels issue we have, but if he turns into an Oozaru with a base PL of 120+ he would have the same PL as Raditz who is Low 5-B... and the U.S. Army doesn't have any planetoid busting nukes (as far as I know lol.)The Living Tribunal1 said:
If we are not taking power levels into account then the U.S. Army likely wins if they nuke Goku ASAP.
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I don't think powerlevels = Tiers
Since they can get pretty inconsistent
If oozaru Goku was around Raditz when he fought Roshi (or still way above early dbz Goku), Don't you think that The oozaru would easily be able to tank the kamehameha (he got knocked out of the form from an inconsistent feat of Roshi's kamehameha? And yeah Roshi's feat was also inconsistent due to blowing up the moon which would mean that Roshi is around Goku and Piccolo's power in the start of DBZ (The fight with Raditz)
Since they can get pretty inconsistent
If oozaru Goku was around Raditz when he fought Roshi (or still way above early dbz Goku), Don't you think that The oozaru would easily be able to tank the kamehameha (he got knocked out of the form from an inconsistent feat of Roshi's kamehameha? And yeah Roshi's feat was also inconsistent due to blowing up the moon which would mean that Roshi is around Goku and Piccolo's power in the start of DBZ (The fight with Raditz)
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Roshi blew up the Moon so that Goku can turn back to normal, he didn't attack him with it iirc.Xenomorphios said:
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It clearly says in Goku's (teenager) profile that he got knocked out by the kamehama which clearly means that Roshi did hit him partially. Check out his durability it clearly says this "(survived a full power kamehameha from Roshi albeit it knocked him straight out of the form)"Alexcar3000 said:
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lol is the moon thing being brought up again?
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Yup Again...The Living Tribunal1 said:
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the 22nd budokai goku is very fast, maybe he can keep dodging uuntil he takes down a headquarter, and anyway he only needs to dodge nukes, and there is considerable pre time needed to get nukes all ready
so 22nd budokai goku will be a menance due to his speed, and KP goku will solo the armies
BUT, this goku will lose
so 22nd budokai goku will be a menance due to his speed, and KP goku will solo the armies
BUT, this goku will lose
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Unless as an Oozaru, he picks up something to counter the nuke if he sees it coming down on him. Maybe the boulders, tanks, part of houses or something... But who knows how a "mindless beast" acts instintively in that kind of situation. He's probably gonna to do that like Kaiju style.The Living Tribunal1 said:
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Except among normal soldiers of the Red Ribbon, there are some superhumans and there's also Artificial Humans and machine suits and all that. It's a bit more advanced than our military from the world that creates flying vehicles and people who can physically punch through walls and things like that. The Red Ribbon Army would've been more formidable if Goku didn't exist.Xenomorphios said:
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the thing is, if lets say the army is concentrated in a single base, then goku can invade and win over a single concentrated target
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Goku killing Obama won´t change anything.The Living Tribunal1 said:
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Even if there are super human soldiers, I don't see them tanking a nuke, I don't think they even have a nuke in their army (1 nuke may be able to even damage king Piccolo or atleast full power master Roshi) 1 weak nuke is all that's needed to oneshot GokuSunWukong1986 said:
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But how strong is the nuke used from the US Army? The Tsar Bomba is the most powerful hydrogen bomb developed by the Russians that yields 50 MT (210 J) of force. You have any ideas what bombs are used there and how much it gives off? And it does have explosives in cyborgs before (if they disobey orders or such)Xenomorphios said:
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to be honest, i dont think most nukes now a days are nearly as strong as tsar bomba
and also, what if like the red ribbon army case, goku tries to infiltrate a concentrated base, of all soldiers?
and also, what if like the red ribbon army case, goku tries to infiltrate a concentrated base, of all soldiers?
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Um...Question, why is this a thing, this is supposed to fiction vs fiction, not fiction vs reality.
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well, of course, in this case its a fictionalized version of the army
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Ah, so like the fictional R.R army?The Living Tribunal1 said:
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no no
fictionalized US army
fictionalized US army
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Oh, hm...Are we talking the entire U.S Army and all of it's weaponry?The Living Tribunal1 said:
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yes
and all concentrated on a base
(in that case the scenrio is like the case of what hapened in the show)
otherwse, with spread out scenario, RR could have beaten goku
and all concentrated on a base
(in that case the scenrio is like the case of what hapened in the show)
otherwse, with spread out scenario, RR could have beaten goku
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