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Who is stronger, Canon Goku or Non-canon Goku?
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Davy0 said:Can someone tell me the feats that showcase that DBGT characters are Galaxy Busters, sans possibly Gogeta SSJ4.
I'm just going to chalk that up as having different opinions, neitehr of us can prove the weight of the games themselves as they are supposedly non-canon (Butoden is more non-caon compared to Xenoverse which follows the story and tries to change it back to correctness).Unclechairman said:"Except Ultimate Butoden also has a lot of cartoonish and otherwise highly unlikely finishers for their characters just as much as they have for their 'serious' ones. It was made to be cartoonish, whereas Xenoverse's story mode was made to be more serious as shown with the Time Patroller and how he must correct time. If you can show me how serious Butoden is compared to Xenoverse, than sure I'll give you that argument."
Butoden follows Dragon Ball Z Kai, which as I stated, follows the original manga rather closely. The cartoonishness of it's finishers means nothing, as Dragon Ball itself is filled with unlikely, cartoonish fighting styles and characters (Cell's LEGO genetics, anyone?). Furthermore, Cell's strongest attack being stated in Xenoverse as only being capable of destroying a "small planet" is completely at odds with the power Frieza, a much weaker character, displayed, as he casually annihilated a planet much denser and thus likely much larger than Earth using a very small fraction of his true power. If anything, this says Xenoverse is the one that should be taken with a grain of salt.
"He didn't necessarily get his power back, if he'd got his power back than wouldn't Goku have been Galaxy Busting right then and there. It was stated that he could have fought and defeated Kid Buu by himself if he wished in the manga. Why be afraid of Beerus who can completely annihilate a Solar System casually and in "the wink of an eye" if he was capable of the same damned feats only better."
If I wasn't clear about this earlier, then I apologize. We rate canon Dragon Ball characters and anime/GT characters very differently on this wiki. Kid Buu ravaging a galaxy only appears in a flashback in the anime and does not appear in the original manga. Kid Buu and Beerus' rating on this wiki is based on the original manga as well as Battle of Gods and Revival of F. The page on Majin Buu explains why he is rated the way he is. Now, in the anime/GT continuity, he is rated much higher thanks to that feat which was shown in the anime. He's not an outright Galaxy buster, but is comfortably Multi-Solar System level thanks to that feat as well as scaling from Cell. As for Goku not Galaxy/Multi-Solar System busting, well, why did Majin Vegeta's Final Explosion only create a large crater despite nearly killing Majin Buu who is much stronger than Frieza who can casually Planet bust?
End of GT Goku is Multi-Galaxy. Shin Budokai Goku is Multi-Universe. Manga Goku, as he stands, is At LEAST, Solar System+, likely to increase on Dragon Ball Super as we are given more feats.Davy0 said:So what you're saying... is that a series that has feats that are non-canon in the mangaverse, are feats that can be used to increase the power of something that takes from that canon because a guidebook, not from the official word of god, can be used to decipher said clues, even if they aren't fact? *Shakes my head* So if we go by your logic, Goku is a Universe Buster by the end of DBGT, let's not just stop at Galaxy why don't we.