Godzilla SP hax cleanup

[Arceus0x]

I see; if someone can unlock Godzilla's profile for me, I could remove it.

asked them to open it. For now please check the SHIVA profile for mistakes. I've pre-removed the LS type 10 from that profile.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

asked them to open it. For now please check the SHIVA profile for mistakes. I've pre-removed the LS type 10 from that profile.

Ah, did you add the powers that SHIVA needed already? Do you want me to check if everything is in order?

 

[Arceus0x]

Ah, did you add the powers that SHIVA needed already? Do you want me to check if everything is in order?

yes...that's what I said

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

yes...that's what I said

Ok, I fixed some minor mistakes; however, I noticed some interesting things:

• Is it right that only the HDE is at least Countless-D?
• Also shouldn't Godzilla also get Limited Plant Manipulation, the same as SHIVA via the Red Dust?

 

[Arceus0x]

Ok, I fixed some minor mistakes; however, I noticed some interesting things:

• Is it right that only the HDE is at least Countless-D?

Yes, we don't really know how high the HDE is and if it is on a higher dimension, we just say that it is at least that much. When it comes to hax it so far affected only countless-D stuff so for now we keep it there.

• Also shouldn't Godzilla also get Limited Plant Manipulation, the same as SHIVA via the Red Dust?

Honestly, I think you should just delete that in the first place since that would fall under the biological manipulation it has

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Yes, we don't really know how high the HDE is and if it is on a higher dimension, we just say that it is at least that much. When it comes to hax it so far affected only countless-D stuff so for now we keep it there.

Ok. I was just making sure about it.

Honestly, I think you should just delete that in the first place since that would fall under the biological manipulation it has

I already removed it.

Btw, now that SHIVA also has High Regen it would also need Immortality Type 3, the same as Godzilla.

 

[Arceus0x]

Ok. I was just making sure about it.


I already removed it.

Btw, now that SHIVA also has High Regen it would also need Immortality Type 3, the same as Godzilla.

ok

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Disagree on the Acausality Type 5. As for the rest of the Countless-D stuff, I'm fairly confident it's just something that can be listed as Range but fine otherwise.

 

[Arceus0x]

I'm fairly confident it's just something that can be listed as Range but fine otherwise.

nah see the whole point is that it can affect specifically Countless-D objects. Like the archetype molecules, the 3D forms of which are only cross-sections of their higher-d forms. Basically, this is kinda the opposite where it is dimensionality rather than range, at least for the ones that aren't mentioned as range.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Dimensionality, as we treat it, is a matter of quantity/size. And to effect something large, you need range, so this literally is just range.

 

[FinePoint]

Dimensionality, as we treat it, is a matter of quantity/size. And to effect something large, you need range, so this literally is just range.

Actually affecting a higher-dimensional object is a higher-dimensional feat.
The range needed would also be included, but doesn't discredit AP.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Actually affecting a higher-dimensional object is a higher-dimensional feat.
The range needed would also be included, but doesn't discredit AP.

No, I get that. But I'm saying, you don't have the list the abilities as Countless-D, when you can just put in the Range that the character can affect Countless-D Structures.

 

[FinePoint]

No, I get that. But I'm saying, you don't have the list the abilities as Countless-D, when you can just put in the Range that the character can affect Countless-D Structures.

For abilities, yes, that is generally correct.

Apologies for any confusion.

 

[Arceus0x]

No, I get that. But I'm saying, you don't have the list the abilities as Countless-D, when you can just put in the Range that the character can affect Countless-D Structures.

so the abilities would be Hyperversal in the range section?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

so the abilities would be Hyperversal in the range section?

Yeah. They would still have Hyperversal AP, obviously, but there's no real need to mention that when the character themself is already HDE.

 

[Arceus0x]

Yeah. They would still have Hyperversal AP, obviously, but there's no real need to mention that when the character themself is already HDE.

Yeah...I think I am gonna leave that for the next CRT I am planning cause these things would imply some intersting changes to the profies.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Yeah...I think I am gonna leave that for the next CRT I am planning cause these things would imply some intersting changes to the profies.

Yeah, that's fine. Anyway, I agree with the abilities and whatnot, just saying you can mark it all down in Range instead of individually.

 

[SomebodyData]

Nah it's probably cause they exist on the same level

Just to confirm, when you said it's because they're on the same level, is it because they're on the same level of acausality or same level of tier?

Because Godzilla should still get acausality type 4 negation (or rather, his causality manip is capable of affecting type 4 acasuals) it's still a pretty incredible feat worth noting, in both circumstances.

 

[Arceus0x]

Just to confirm, when you said it's because they're on the same level, is it because they're on the same level of acausality or same level of tier?

Because Godzilla should still get acausality type 4 negation (or rather, his causality manip is capable of affecting type 4 acasuals) it's still a pretty incredible feat worth noting, in both circumstances.

yeah, same causality level. If this is the case I think I'll add it up next CRT. I am working on something big.

 

[Arceus0x]

it's basically like this

-there's the universe's normal causality
-there's the higher dimensional causality which the red dust creatures have on their causality web
-Godzilla is a node in that causality that can't really be read

So in a way Godzilla is double aca type 4

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Just to confirm, when you said it's because they're on the same level, is it because they're on the same level of acausality or same level of tier?

Because Godzilla should still get acausality type 4 negation (or rather, his causality manip is capable of affecting type 4 acasuals) it's still a pretty incredible feat worth noting, in both circumstances.

Yes, that caught my attention, and that's why I asked that question because it does suggest that the same Manda to which Godzilla reverted its causality also operates outside of causality.

Btw, do you think that Godzilla could also get Acausality Negation? Given his causality hacks still work on other Singularities that are also acausal.