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I was browsing the page for Godzilla: The Series' Godzilla and noticed that some of the calculations are based on old values I calculated a long time ago, which I've since realized are wrong. In particular, the calculations for the volcanic eruption feat and the thunderstorm feat are problematic for a number of reasons.
The changes I'm proposing probably won't change his overall ranking significantly. I just want to fix some errors.
Volcanic Eruption (incorrect calculation, unusable feat)
This is the calculation being used for the volcanic eruption at the time of writing, made by another user. At the very beginning, it uses an old pixel-scaled measurement of mine to get a measure for the top of the volcano.
My measurement for this was wrong. The height of the building in the background isn't accurate, as my assumptions at the time of measuring that image were off. Additionally, there's no way to get an accurate measure of the volcano's mouth in the first place without taking perspective into account, which is impossible from this shot (I may have assumed in a calculation of my own that because the volcano was in the background, its mouth was at least that big, but I digress). This also ignores the rampant size inconsistencies throughout the series which make pixel scaling futile in most cases.
More importantly, the feat is unusable. It assumes (1) that Godzilla survived the explosion when he could have escaped it and (2) that Godzilla can be scaled up from Queen Bee, who did not escape but did survive and was later shown to be less durable than Godzilla. However, we don't know where Queen Bee landed in relation to the center of the eruption, so there's no way to get a sense of durability in the first place.
Thunderstorm Feat (incorrect calculation)
This is the calculation currently being used for the thunderstorm feat. Again, it's based on an old measurement of mine that I can't say was accurate due to the fact that I didn't take perspective into account.
In addition, there are huge inconsistencies with the storm's size and perspective both within and between shots, so attempts at measurement are again inherently flawed.
Now, if we're going to assume this is a valid feat for the potency of the atomic breath (i.e. ignoring that Godzilla didn't set everything miles around him ablaze, as other Godzilla pages seem to do), there may be a real-life analog we can use to make some sense of it.
According to this piece on nuke-induced lightning, not only have nuclear explosions been observed to produce lightning, there are even accounts of nuclear explosions causing localized storm clouds. A 3.8 megaton hydrogen bomb caused rain after 3 minutes and a thunderstorm after 10 minutes. The 10.4 megaton Ivy Mike also produced lightning.
We see the atomic breath and ice breath produce lightning and a thunderstorm with exponentially greater effects, forming the storm in just a few seconds rather than minutes and spawning multiple tornadoes as well. In that case, the feat might still be able to justify a rating of at least 7-B (City Level) if the feat is still acceptable. Otherwise, ranking may be unknown.
Other minor revisions
The point about the atomic breath melting steel and sand could be reworded to say something like "hot enough to melt steel and sand at its weakest, hot enough to cause its own warm front at its strongest" if the above feat is still acceptable. There's evidence that Zilla Jr./Godzilla can adjust the strength of his atomic breath, after all. Also, the description switches from Celsius to Fahrenheit mid-sentence, which is jarring (and it mistakenly states that the 4000 Fahrenheit value is greater than the 2300 Celsius value when they're actually about equal).
The Visor didn't let Godzilla see enemies "faster" than him. They let him see through the hummingbirds' light refraction effect. Also, it's not standard equipment. It was a one-time thing.
Zilla's page
On a side note, the page for Toho's Zilla has some inaccuracies as well. The "Country Level" rating for IDW Zilla, which I helped write a long time ago, was based on a massive outlier feat for IDW Godzilla. Final Wars Zilla is also scaled to Country Level without justification, with the page outright admitting there are no feats to support it.
The changes I'm proposing probably won't change his overall ranking significantly. I just want to fix some errors.
Volcanic Eruption (incorrect calculation, unusable feat)
This is the calculation being used for the volcanic eruption at the time of writing, made by another user. At the very beginning, it uses an old pixel-scaled measurement of mine to get a measure for the top of the volcano.
My measurement for this was wrong. The height of the building in the background isn't accurate, as my assumptions at the time of measuring that image were off. Additionally, there's no way to get an accurate measure of the volcano's mouth in the first place without taking perspective into account, which is impossible from this shot (I may have assumed in a calculation of my own that because the volcano was in the background, its mouth was at least that big, but I digress). This also ignores the rampant size inconsistencies throughout the series which make pixel scaling futile in most cases.
More importantly, the feat is unusable. It assumes (1) that Godzilla survived the explosion when he could have escaped it and (2) that Godzilla can be scaled up from Queen Bee, who did not escape but did survive and was later shown to be less durable than Godzilla. However, we don't know where Queen Bee landed in relation to the center of the eruption, so there's no way to get a sense of durability in the first place.
Thunderstorm Feat (incorrect calculation)
This is the calculation currently being used for the thunderstorm feat. Again, it's based on an old measurement of mine that I can't say was accurate due to the fact that I didn't take perspective into account.
In addition, there are huge inconsistencies with the storm's size and perspective both within and between shots, so attempts at measurement are again inherently flawed.
Now, if we're going to assume this is a valid feat for the potency of the atomic breath (i.e. ignoring that Godzilla didn't set everything miles around him ablaze, as other Godzilla pages seem to do), there may be a real-life analog we can use to make some sense of it.
According to this piece on nuke-induced lightning, not only have nuclear explosions been observed to produce lightning, there are even accounts of nuclear explosions causing localized storm clouds. A 3.8 megaton hydrogen bomb caused rain after 3 minutes and a thunderstorm after 10 minutes. The 10.4 megaton Ivy Mike also produced lightning.
We see the atomic breath and ice breath produce lightning and a thunderstorm with exponentially greater effects, forming the storm in just a few seconds rather than minutes and spawning multiple tornadoes as well. In that case, the feat might still be able to justify a rating of at least 7-B (City Level) if the feat is still acceptable. Otherwise, ranking may be unknown.
Other minor revisions
The point about the atomic breath melting steel and sand could be reworded to say something like "hot enough to melt steel and sand at its weakest, hot enough to cause its own warm front at its strongest" if the above feat is still acceptable. There's evidence that Zilla Jr./Godzilla can adjust the strength of his atomic breath, after all. Also, the description switches from Celsius to Fahrenheit mid-sentence, which is jarring (and it mistakenly states that the 4000 Fahrenheit value is greater than the 2300 Celsius value when they're actually about equal).
The Visor didn't let Godzilla see enemies "faster" than him. They let him see through the hummingbirds' light refraction effect. Also, it's not standard equipment. It was a one-time thing.
Zilla's page
On a side note, the page for Toho's Zilla has some inaccuracies as well. The "Country Level" rating for IDW Zilla, which I helped write a long time ago, was based on a massive outlier feat for IDW Godzilla. Final Wars Zilla is also scaled to Country Level without justification, with the page outright admitting there are no feats to support it.
