the showa versions of both
Takes place on 1954's version of Australia
Takes place on 1954's version of Australia
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Godzilla and King Ghidorah vs Pacific Rim
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Both Godzilla and Ghidorah can solo due to being fast enough to blitz and having vastly superior AP and durability.
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There's no way they'll be blitzing, considering how slow both of them are. Also, they are simply not durable enough to survive an all out assault from all the PR kaiju and mechs at once.
Ghidorah can tag three at once with gravity beams and ARE faster, outnumbering is The only way
Ghidorah can tag three at once with gravity beams and ARE faster, outnumbering is The only way
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They both have Subsonic, possibly Supersonic reactions. That's more than enough to blitz, considering how the PRverse seems to range from Peak Human to Superhuman+ in terms of speed.
Ghidora and Godzilla have Island, possibly Country level AP and Durability. While the PRverse's best weapon is Small City level.
Yeah, this is not fair for the PRverse.
Ghidora and Godzilla have Island, possibly Country level AP and Durability. While the PRverse's best weapon is Small City level.
Yeah, this is not fair for the PRverse.
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MY conclusion after analyzing the profiles:ShowaGhido can handle this I think, any proofs?
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By all three, which do you mean? And KG isn't going to be able to take them down before they gang up on him. Showa Godzilla alongside Rodan and the Mothra Larva won against him eventually, and KG alongside Gigan was beaten back by Godzilla and Anguirus. And neither KG nor Godzilla are faster than the PR kaiju/mechs. KG's faster in the air, sure, but he ain't blitzing any time soon.
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Read the profiles, outnumbering is a valid argumentKiryu2012 said:
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Ganging up is useless when your attacks do literally no damage and one hit from the enemy kill you.
They are perfectly able to blitz the PRverse, be it from a distance with Atomic Breath and gravity beams, or in CQC, since they have much faster reaction speed.
They are perfectly able to blitz the PRverse, be it from a distance with Atomic Breath and gravity beams, or in CQC, since they have much faster reaction speed.
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They won't be blitzing both because they're nowhere near fast enough to do that, and they've never done any sort of blitzing in the first place. In regards to melee, the PR kaiju are the ones who hold this edge, and Goji and KG are far from capable of oneshotting the kaiju.NotEvenHuman said:
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Tell me, how is an Island level character uncapable of one-shotting a Town level character? Because that's what you're saying right now.
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Honestly, I don't use this site when it comes to discussing battles like these, especially when it comes to kaiju. Empirical, visual evidence is what I use, not a weird system that only works for Dragonball and other shounen animes. 1954 Godzilla and Showa KG are far from capable of oneshotting the PR kaiju, especially '54 Goji. The PR kaiju/mechs are more than capable of overwhelming both of them, depending on which of them are being used for this fight.NotEvenHuman said:
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... If you're not willing to use the Tiering System to debate on this site, then why did you comment in this thread in the first place? No one's gonna listen to anything you say if you just ignore the stats we have for the characters, unless your opinion just so happens to coincide with the stats we have, which is not the case here.
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Honestly, I don't use this site when it comes to discussing battles like these, especially when it comes to kaiju. Empirical, visual evidence is what I use, not a weird system that only works for Dragonball and other shounen animes. 1954 Godzilla and Showa KG are far from capable of oneshotting the PR kaiju, especially '54 Goji. The PR kaiju/mechs are more than capable of overwhelming both of them, depending on which of them are being used for this fight.
It's no '54 Goji, it's 75 Goji
It's no '54 Goji, it's 75 Goji
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Well, as King Ghidorah can take on slattern with no effort at all..
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He most certainly would struggle against Slattern. It wouldn't exactly be easy for both, but Slattern would hold the advantage. My mistake thinking this was '54 Godzilla. 70's would certainly do better, but he sure as hell wouldn't blitz or oneshot the PR kaiju.Sigma the Terminator of Purple Monsters said:
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Would?magnetic powers answer this
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That doesn't automatically mean he'd take the win. Hell, it took him a long time to actually use his magnetism against Mechagodzilla, and he never used it in Terror of Mechagodzilla. Even if he did use it here, he'd still have to worry about the other kaiju and the possibility of the mechs trying to retaliate.Sigma the Terminator of Purple Monsters said:
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Can someone remind me of all the feats that put the Showa monsters at Island Level? I remember King Ghidorah's gravity bolts' AP coming from a comparison to nukes even though they aren't explosive and also some scaling from Manda just for Manda being a side character. The Manda calc is the only calc linked in either profile giving (presumed) Island Level durability.
I was once told that Showa Godzilla's atomic breath has an official temperature of 100,000 degrees C. The surface radiation by itself would give somewhere along the lines of Large Town to City Level AP for the Showa atomic breath. While this doesn't take into account things like kinetic or explosive force, Showa G's atomic breath is primarily heat-based. I would like some more solid evidence for Mountain-Island Level durability than "Manda is just a side character, so he must be less durable" (side characters have had greater durability than main characters before).
@Kiryu2012
While I agree that the power scaling in sites like this are flawed and often taken out of context, you're not gonna convince anyone here to ignore the site's own statistics. Verdicts have completely flipped and "established" victories have been removed from profiles over tier changes, even changes coming from one-shot feats.
I was once told that Showa Godzilla's atomic breath has an official temperature of 100,000 degrees C. The surface radiation by itself would give somewhere along the lines of Large Town to City Level AP for the Showa atomic breath. While this doesn't take into account things like kinetic or explosive force, Showa G's atomic breath is primarily heat-based. I would like some more solid evidence for Mountain-Island Level durability than "Manda is just a side character, so he must be less durable" (side characters have had greater durability than main characters before).
@Kiryu2012
While I agree that the power scaling in sites like this are flawed and often taken out of context, you're not gonna convince anyone here to ignore the site's own statistics. Verdicts have completely flipped and "established" victories have been removed from profiles over tier changes, even changes coming from one-shot feats.
