GEoM (WH40K) vs Dark Schneider (Bastard!!)

[CrossverseCrisis]

Read a Death Battle match of this on DA once a while back. Was fun to read despite not getting used to what GEoM does. ^^; DK if this was done here already before tho?

Anyways, and though i'm starting to see GEoM being used a bit more than usual (might be a new "repeated character of use" character on my list), and i have heard and read comments from Matt and Azzy of this guy being pretty OP and haxxy. But seeing as he beat someone like Reinhard recently, i figured i'd put him against someone that Reinhard had fought a while back that was possibly one of the most dangerous potential people that could take him and probably most of DI (in it's base form....hoping people know what i mean by hat as in, barring the God Tiers), who is Dark Schneider himself.

Rambling aside, the fight is between Emperor of Mankind in his Tier 4 form thing against the Dark Messiah in his Majin form. Can't tell which is faster than whom so unless clarified, keeping speed as normal. Both are in-character i guess. Battle takes place in some neutral universe....if that works fine with both still.

Big E(?): 0

Darsh: 0

Inconclusive/Tie: 0

Who wins this and why? Any single word/Sentence comments that doesn't justify why this char wins is not counted.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Anyone? Come on~

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Augh....come on~

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Goddammit Cross.

Me and my friends were discussing that match some months ago, and damnit, this is a helluva match~

Personally, I see the Emperor as faster (Around the billions), but for the sake of the match, going to consider them as equals.

Darsh got the raw power, and some of his haxes could put down the Emperor in one shot. However, the existance-erasing attacks, plus the fact that the Emperor can BFR him to the Warp and nullify his powers are quite problematic to Darsh.

I'm not sure, because it's been awhile since I last read Bastard!!, but can the Dispel Bound protect Dark Schneider from Emps' BFR, existance-erasing and power nullification?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I thought of the same thing too some months back when GEoM was being one of the hot ***** on the wikia. ^^;

IDK if either one is faster than the other, so i had the same thought as well and just left the speed normal as is.

Doesn't the Emeporor have Mid-Godly regen tho? IDK if Darsh has a way of permanently killing if that thing gets up when Emperor fully dies.

I was told by Sheoth (you probably remember the guy, right) who said that it's supposed to protect Darsh from some or most things, but not all things....or something? IDEK, it's hard to say.

Speaking of Dispel Bound, to anyone who has heard let alone read Bastard!!, does anyone actually know WTF that thing does? Off-topic, i've also noticed the pages like Darsh's are rather a bit lackluster in info when it comes to his Eternal Atoms and Dispel Bound...

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Big-E has the best Existence Erasing I've ever seen in fiction, and also Mid-Godly Regen.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Not much else to that, huh?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I mean, I don't think Darsh can put him down, and I don't think Darsh can tank his attacks.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

What about his higher tier and Dispel Bound though? You haven't exactly been specific on Big E getting through that?

 

[SolBadgay300]

Dispel Bound takes out a lot of what GEoM can do. Darsh also should have DC/durability to back it up so he should win

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

But the Emperor has endured Power Nullification a lot.

 

[SolBadgay300]

Darsh can endure the kind of attacks GEoM releases from beings who are more than likely above him since he's 4-A and the ones he puts up with are 3-B

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Darsh can endure the kind of attacks GEoM releases from beings who are more than likely above him since he's 4-A and the ones he puts up with are 3-B

His physical form is 4-A. His unrestricted consciousness is Low 1-B, and he runs on a Tier 1 power source.

 

[SolBadgay300]

Which I'm like 90% certain would be restricted here as that'd be a ridiculous stomp


Regardless, Darsh needs a single strike to take out his physical form


btw how is GEoM faster just curious

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Oh obviously it's not his Warp form fighting. But he still runs on that power source. His powers are an incredible deal harder to negate than if he was just a generic 4-A with hax.

Are you asking me or? Because I don't know how fast Darsh is, exactly.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

That's basically who i'm using, Sol. Darsh wouldn't compare well at all if that were the case of what you just said.

 

[SolBadgay300]

I know Darsh is already about 7000x FTL possibly even if millions, I'm asking how fast is GEoM

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

There is no good exact number.

He is far faster than his Primarchs, and a regular Space Marine wielding Sanguinius power has a feat that's about 100c (lower end) to 5000c (higher end). The Emperor was so fast compared to his Primarchs, Horus couldn't even see his father's movements when fighting by his side.

He also fought against a very large shard of The Void Drago. A heavily weakened shard of the Nightbringer traveled 70,000 light years in what was at the absolute most a couple months, and the shard the Emperor bested would be notably faster.

 

[SolBadgay300]

Seems to me by the above feats they'd be close enough in speed where Darsh could react to him. If you don't have an exact timeframe for V. Dragon's feat, that would be problematic for calcing it, thus possibly making it less impressive

 

[SolBadgay300]

Also, speaking of dragons, Void Dragon vs. Aurelion Sol could be good, I'm just saying

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

There is no timeframe, but we have an absolute maximum of a couple months, since there is a timeskip of that length and when we cut to the shard, it is already 70,000 ly away feeding on a star. Even assuming the absolute lowest end of the shard just having arrived and having just started to feed, the feat is many, many times faster than the speed of light. The exact timeframe just depends on exactly how much faster than light it is.

 

[SolBadgay300]

I think this should probably be inconclusive then

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Emperor also seems to be invisible from the point of view of the Custodes, who are waaaaay superior to the Lightspeed-Reactions Space Marines.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Okay......DK if anybody is giving off any votes or can't even tell whose voting who or inconclusive anymore...

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Oops, I haven't received notifications. Sorry for not answering sooner.

@Cross

The Emperor's speeds depends mostly about interpretation and stuff. I've tried to calc the 70.000 lightyear feat, but again, the whole thing can range from the high billions to the low thousands of times the speed of light, and the Emperor would be way faster in any case (I've also tried to calc the solar-system-sized Bloodthirster. I got 2 million times the speed of light, but idk if it'd be accepted). If we do consider the theory that the Emperor fought against a Transcendant C'tan (Which I assume isn't considered), he'd have intergalactic speeds, so... Maybe quadrillions? In any case, for the sake of the fight, they should be considered around the same speed.

Big E has quite limited Regenerationn when living (IDK the exact tier). To regenerate at Mid-Godly levels, he needs to "die". Essentially, he can ressurrect from existance erasure, but nothing more than that.

And the Dispel Bounds works kinda like a bunch of forcefields over each other, unimaginably thin yet unimaginably tough, with each Dispel Bound has the capacity to nullify one kind of power, and not only that, breaking them requires an awful lot of attacks, unless you are ridiculously stronger than the Dispel Bound user. But really, IDK if they do have a particular resistance against conceptual existance erasure, which is why I asked. I might've missed something on the manga.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Nah, it's alright. I just tell of whose voting for who anymore or how many is there that is a vote.

Ah, that's what i had in mind. I know Dark is superior to the Archangels who are like nigh close to 7000x FTL. And he's probably a lot faster after hitting Majin form.

Yeah, that's the thing for GEoM. He does have the superior regen, but that only happens if Darsh kills him fully. Otherwise, he's a lot inferior with that.

Sounds like Seiji's barriers that are thin as a paper yet durable as a mountain thing. ^^;

But on a serious note, his page along with a couple others don't even mention that shit which irritates me every time Darsh or anyone like Uriel(?) or Lucifer from Bastard!! is mentioned.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

I'm still voting for the GEoM, but with difficulties. lol

Kinda like Seiji's, but they nullify hax.

Seriously? I thought that they were there. If the pages aren't locked, I may add the Dispel Bounds to the profiles, if you wish so.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Alrighty.

I was speaking of how thin and thick they were....pause tho. ^^;

If you look at those like Dark Schineider's page and stuff, it's nothing like what you just described of them. They're literally just complete shit rn.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

They are just kind of... Incomplete. They are describing the effects of the Dispel Bound, but they don't take their "shape" as a forcefield in question.

Anyway, I think we may have accidentaly derailed the thread a little bit.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Mm, i'll do it on your wall if your notifs work here this time.

Anyways, that's 1 (maybe 2 for GEoM) and 1 for Dark Schneider.