♦ Genshin Impact — Speed Gap For the God-Tier and A Bunch of New Abilities (1 STAFF VOTE LEFT NEEDED) ♦

[MSahla]

Introduction
Yea, hello again. I've finally made another CRT. This time, we'll be upgrading the speed of God-Tier characters.

This is only temporary for some times until we finally get god-tier speed feats which will possibly be happening during Snezhnaya.

There are also some new abilities after that, so check them out.

New Speed
So, this will be the last Rerir 10% Multiplier actually. Continuation from this and this threads. From this thread, we got Relativistic speed for most of the Genshin Impact characters (even Paimon). So we're basically gonna multiply this again 10x for the God Tiers.

So the ones who perform the feat of the speed was the Traveler and Flins. After Rerir got basically 10% of his original power he's already stronger the entire cast including both of them.

From the accepted calc we got 10.88% Speed of Light, so just multiply it by 10 times then we got:
108.8% SoL or 1.088c (FTL)

Characters affected (The God-Tier of the Verse):

Spoiler

Four Shades (Excluding Istaroth)

• Naberius
• Ronova
• Asmoday

Five Sinners

• Rhinedottir
• Rerir (Prime)
• Surtalogi

Seven Sovereigns

• Dragon King Nibelung
• Neuvillette
• Apep
• Xiuhcoatl

Moon Goddess

• Columbina Hyposelenia
• The Traveler (New Moon's Blessing)

Edit: NOTE that this is not meant for a downgrade thread or whatever. Characters mentioned above are the current accepted characters as the god-tiers in Genshin Impact from previous threads. Please make your own CRT if you have a problem with them, not here.


Abilities Additions
Now this section is for Abilities additions for some characters.

Spoiler: Columbina

Fear Manipulation and Plant Manipulation

Spoiler

Via this scan right here:


I've asked this on QnA thread and got approved by @ActuallySpaceMan42

What is this ability?

Just watch this specifict scene for 30 seconds: Is that some sort of fear hax that she did?

vsbattles.com

Spoiler: Asmoday

Dimensional Travel and Interdimensional Range

Wonder why Asmoday doesn't have these yet.
Asmoday can travel between dimensions and her portal also can reach other dimensions.

Spoiler

First is this scene, certainly somewhere near Celestia


Second is in 5.7 Archon Quest where she watching the Traveler and their sibling. The location was in a different space and time, which was a realm made by Istaroth.


And the last one recently in 6.5 World Quest where she also watch us, the Traveler, in the realm called Temple of Space, which is a realm created by herself.

Spoiler: Apep

Clairvoyance

Spoiler

She can sense if there's an anomaly within the Ley Lines, and immediately guessed that that there's something wrong with the Irminsul

She already sense that the Hydro Dragon Neuvillette have regained his Authority back even though they never meet each other, and she knew what both of them were doing right now.

And this one

Life Manipulation & Power Bestowal

Spoiler

Apep is the embodiment of vitality who stands at the apex of Dendro element, which is an element that associated with Life itself

She can provide her life force to Nahida to sustain her strength

Spoiler: Citlali

Clairvoyance
Here:

If there's anything that needs to be included, just tell me.

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Agreed: ActuallySpaceMan42 - TWILIGHT-OP (the rest)
Puppet43 (the rest) - LoudestProcedure - Natsuki012 - Furina003 - AsterReal - InfiOthinus

Neutral:


Disagree: TWILIGHT-OP (Bina and Traveler)
Puppet43 (Bina and Traveler)

 

[Puppet43]

I agree on almost everything
Apep's ley line scan is not clairvoyance but more the fact that she (like Adzhada) its delicated to whatever changes happen between the Ley Lines
And i disagree on Bina/Traveler scaling to FTL, Dottore which was the major threath of that time is not treated differently than 10% Rerir, implicating both are on a same lvl of power (More evidence come with the fact that Dottore never is capable of blizting Base Nod Krai Traveler, even do the speed gap should be 10 times)

 

[MSahla]

Apep's ley line scan is not clairvoyance but more the fact that she (like Adzhada) its delicated to whatever changes happen between the Ley Lines

Azhdaha cannot know about Irminsul's problem, though? At least not yet we know. Apep knows that there's a problem within the Irminsul, which is the core of all Ley Lines, not just the Ley Lines itself. Even an ordinary humans can know if there's something wrong with the Ley Lines.

And so Apep already expected some Humans would come to visit her, which that would be The Traveler. So, Apep's awareness > Azhdaha's.

And i disagree on Bina/Traveler scaling to FTL, Dottore which was the major threath of that time is not treated differently than 10% Rerir, implicating both are on a same lvl of power

Just because they have a similar statement, i.e they're threatening the whole world? That doesn't mean anything. That's just because of what their doing with people and their actions.

Rerir will only got his FTL speed at his prime, which should scale to Dragon Sovereigns. Then you got the Trilune Goddess like Columbina who should at least comparable to Dragon Sovereigns as someone who's the manifestation of Nibelung's will and majesty. That would mean Trilune Goddess > 10% Rerir obviously.

(More evidence come with the fact that Dottore never is capable of blizting Base Nod Krai Traveler, even do the speed gap should be 10 times)

Why you mean by that? The Traveler's will get the FTL only for his New Moon's Blessing key, not base at all. That's why I said there "(New Moon's Blessing)"

 

[Puppet43]

Azhdaha cannot know about Irminsul's problem, though?

That just means Apep is more rational than Azhdaha (or maybe they equal rational but we only saw Azhdaha in a corrupted form)

Then you got the Trilune Goddess like Columbina who should at least comparable to Dragon Sovereigns as someone who's the manifestation of Nibelung's will and majesty.

Based on nothingburger
Just because they are created by x doesnt mean its comparable to x's inferiors
Meanwhile Rerir 10% and Moonttore are treated equally as dangerous; "If dont stop him now, the entire of Teyvat will be destroyed" "Their powers are on another lvl" etc u get the idea

The Traveler's will get the FTL only for his New Moon's Blessing key, not base at all.

Yet Base Traveler was able to somewhat intercept Dottore, twice

 

[MSahla]

Just because they are created by x doesnt mean its comparable to x's inferiors

Oh yeah. Columbina literally have the authority of her (and Dragon Sovereign) master not at least comparable to Dragon Sovereigns? Not to mention she literally can change the world itself, and said the power of the Moon is a destructive calamity.

Meanwhile Rerir 10% and Moonttore are treated equally as dangerous; "If dont stop him now, the entire of Teyvat will be destroyed" "Their powers are on another lvl" etc u get the idea

Both of them being described as similarly catastrophic only establishes that both are major existential threats. That doesn't prove equal AP whatsoever.

The more reliable evidence is their respective performance against Columbina;

• 10% Rerir got defeated by a weaker version of Columbina, which is before she become the Trilune Goddess with the Three Moons Power
• Yet it needs Columbina with her Three Moons power, which is her strongest form, to finally defeated Dottore with the Three Moons power

Moon Dottore demonstrably scales higher regardless of broader narrative threat statements.

Yet Base Traveler was able to somewhat intercept Dottore, twice

Are we serious? Those Dottore scenes aren't even at his full power yet with the Three Moons power, and not even using his Heretic of the False Moon form.

Base Traveler absolutely got stomped by Heretic of the False Moon, lmao.

 

[LoudestProcedure]

Seems fine agree

 

[Natsuki012]

agree

 

[Furina003]

Agree

 

[Puppet43]

Oh yeah. Columbina literally have the authority of her (and Dragon Sovereign) master not at least comparable to Dragon Sovereigns?

Again, there no direct statment that proof such thing
U are here saying "because they wield nibelung power they should be as strong as Sovereings" when we dont have a quantificate lvl of how much of Nibelung's Authority they wield; for all we know Moon Goddess could be 5 % of his authority and Sovereings could be comparable to 10% of his

Not to mention she literally can change the world itself, and said the power of the Moon is a destructive calamity.

So u bringing up a thing that even Authoriless Apep could do (Nuke the 7 nations)
- Changes of the world itself reffear to hax, not god damn raw power

10% Rerir got defeated by a weaker version of Columbina, which is before she become the Trilune Goddess with the Three Moons Power

U would need to proof 10% RerirBina is weaker than Trilune Bina without entering a circular reasoning of their current APs
Because there a connection or statment implicating Trilune Bina is stronger/weaker than 10% Rerirbina (nor viceversa)
- (Ofc im not entering into Haxs because Trilune is stronger there, we talking about raw power)

Are we serious? Those Dottore scenes aren't even at his full power yet with the Three Moons power

Both instances i show u are Dottore with the 3 marrows, so why would be not be at his FP?

and not even using his Heretic of the False Moon form.

Thats just an outfit change...

Base Traveler absolutely got stomped by Heretic of the False Moon, lmao.

See how even in ur example Dottore isnt blizting Base Traveler?
U proving my point
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In conclusion, ur scales are potential, theme and such, hype and aura scaling instead of actual statments and feats

 

[MSahla]

Edit: You don't need to reply to this again as it will derail the thread even further. I've listed your vote.

Again, there no direct statment that proof such thing
U are here saying "because they wield nibelung power they should be as strong as Sovereings" when we dont have a quantificate lvl of how much of Nibelung's Authority they wield; for all we know Moon Goddess could be 5 % of his authority and Sovereings could be comparable to 10% of his

Yes there is a proof of such thing, I guess you're not reading enough.

Literally she has full authority over the world itself because she, as a moon goddess, “inherited” his authority and govern the world itself in his stead if Phanes wasn't there. Why do you think that's not most of his authority, anyway? Nibelung's main job was basically govern the world itself, then he created his manifestations to replace himself.

So u bringing up a thing that even Authoriless Apep could do (Nuke the 7 nations)
- Changes of the world itself reffear to hax, not god damn raw power

Okay? At least those statements aren't as vague as the statements you brought, i.e “world threatening” bullshit.

Cause that doesn't mean they have the same AP whatsoever.

U would need to proof 10% RerirBina is weaker than Trilune Bina without entering a circular reasoning of their current APs
Because there a connection or statment implicating Trilune Bina is stronger/weaker than 10% Rerirbina (nor viceversa)

First of all, why would that be Columbina's strongest state, or that state of her comparable to herTrilune Goddess, while at the same time she was weakened despite getting buffed from Rerir's power?

10% Rerir-buffed Columbina was still explicitly operating under multiple nerfs;

1. The Frost Moon was sealed beyond the false sky
2. Her existence was being rejected by the world
3. She was unable to fully manifest/access her natural Moon Goddess authority

So that form is not “10% Rerir on top of full Columbina”, it is suppressed/crippled Columbina + 10% external Rerir amplification. That cannot be assumed to represent her peak WHATSOEVER.

The Trilune Goddess is directly tied to the power of the three moons, which is the core source of her Moon Goddess authority as you know it too. If her standard state is weakened because one moon is sealed and her existence is being suppressed, then restoring/manifesting the complete three-moon authority logically places Trilune closer to her intended/full manifestation. So that's not circular reasoning at all, that's a straightforward condition scaling.

Both instances i show u are Dottore with the 3 marrows, so why would be not be at his FP?

Because he hadn't fully harnessed the power of the three moons? He started to do so when he transformed.

Thats just an outfit change...

This is so cringe, tbh.

See how even in ur example Dottore isnt blizting Base Traveler?
U proving my point

I mean, does that even make the Traveler relative to him? The cutscene clearly shows he's just playing with them knowing that he's stronger than the Traveler and Sandrone. In fact, bro's not even moving and just dodging.

This is just like the first time Traveler met Asmoday. Asmoday didn't one-shot/blitz them immediately, but they do got stomped once Asmoday got serious.

In conclusion, ur scales are potential, theme and such, hype and aura scaling instead of actual statments and feats

I do have feats and statements, cause I read this game. If I don't read anything I wouldn't say such things.

 

[AsterReal]

Agree

 

[InfiOthinus]

Agree

 

[Puppet43]

You don't need to reply to this again as it will derail the thread even further. I've listed your vote.

The topic is still within the original post, so I don't see why I shouldn't continue with the argument.

I guess you're not reading enough.

Literally she has full authority over the world itself because she, as a moon goddess, “inherited” his authority and govern the world itself in his stead if Phanes wasn't there. Why do you think that's not most of his authority, anyway? Nibelung's main job was basically govern the world itself, then he created his manifestations to replace himself.

You're the one who can't read.

when we dont have a quantificate lvl of how much of Nibelung's Authority they wield; for all we know Moon Goddess could be 5 % of his authority and Sovereings could be comparable to 10% of his

Even when the moons possess the authority and power of Nibelung, we don't know quantitatively how much of that power is Nibelung's, nor how much Nibelung power an average Sovereign compares to. I won't argue with maintaining the planet; but that's not a feat; it's an ability/hax. An example of the same caliber would be saying that Scaramouche is comparable to Capitano because he was created to maintain a Gnosis, and Capitano lost against a Gnosis user (I'm referring to Harbinger Scara).

Okay? At least those statements aren't as vague as the statements you brought, i.e “world threatening” bullshit.
Cause that doesn't mean they have the same AP whatsoever.

If character A is described as a destroyer of worlds, an annihilator of planets, creator of mass extinctions, and character B is described in the same way, why, according to your logic, are they on different levels?

First of all, why would that be Columbina's strongest state, or that state of her comparable to herTrilune Goddess, while at the same time she was weakened despite getting buffed from Rerir's power?
10% Rerir-buffed Columbina was still explicitly operating under multiple nerfs;

1. The Frost Moon was sealed beyond the false sky
2. Her existence was being rejected by the world
3. She was unable to fully manifest/access her natural Moon Goddess authority

And that wouldn't affect the topic we're discussing at all. She can still be weak in terms of "life and existence" and can have the same power as her Trilune (raw power; no haxs), although of course she would have more weaknesses than the Trilune (it still doesn't affect her AP).

So that form is not “10% Rerir on top of full Columbina”, it is suppressed/crippled Columbina + 10% external Rerir amplification. That cannot be assumed to represent her peak WHATSOEVER.

Oh yeah the straight up power of that top tier is not making Bina even when crippled a top tier
Lol

Because he hadn't fully harnessed the power of the three moons? He started to do so when he transformed.

Dottore straight up tell us he has the power of the 3 moons when trapping Bina

Archive logs of the cutscene
Columbina stepped into the beam of light within the Hyperborea ruins. But instead of returning to the moon, she was bound by Fatui Harbinger, The Doctor, who claimed the power of the three moons for himself. Using this newfound power, he froze time, rendering everyone completely immobile — except for you.

They said the same about him when he got the Artificial Marrow, so yeah it is a outfit change

I mean, does that even make the Traveler relative to him? The cutscene clearly shows he's just playing with them knowing that he's stronger than the Traveler and Sandrone. In fact, bro's not even moving and just dodging.

Dodging by centimeters
U know the definition of speedblizt? Think of what Ei did to Signora
Dottore didnt do that to Traveler Base

This is just like the first time Traveler met Asmoday. Asmoday didn't one-shot/blitz them immediately, but they do got stomped once Asmoday got serious.

Asmoday didnt blizt them but did oneshot them
They can have gaps in power but same speed

If I don't read anything I wouldn't say such things.

But you do it anyways

 

[MSahla]

Even when the moons possess the authority and power of Nibelung, we don't know quantitatively how much of that power is Nibelung's, nor how much Nibelung power an average Sovereign compares to.

Exact numerical division is almost never required for scaling. Like that's not always a mandatory thing. The burden is on you to prove that this inheritance is merely symbolic or massively diluted.

You absolutely don't need a percentage split of Nibelung’s total power? Like a direct “Moon Sisters = X% of Nibelung” and a quantified comparison to each Sovereign? The narrative relation itself matters and obvious that Nibelung > Sovereigns. Moon Goddesses are his direct manifestations/extensions to replace his very role itself. That gives legitimate scaling relevance

I won't argue with maintaining the planet; but that's not a feat; it's an ability/hax. An example of the same caliber would be saying that Scaramouche is comparable to Capitano because he was created to maintain a Gnosis, and Capitano lost against a Gnosis user (I'm referring to Harbinger Scara).

Nibelung’s role is literally to govern and uphold the foundational laws of Teyvat, then replacing that function requires operating on the same ontological layer as those laws. Because maintaining a planetary cosmological framework is not analogous to simply “being built to hold something”.

Your Analogy with Scara is also false and not related whatsoever, because “containing/hosting an artifact” ≠ wielding or embodying its governing authority.

If character A is described as a destroyer of worlds, an annihilator of planets, creator of mass extinctions, and character B is described in the same way, why, according to your logic, are they on different levels?

Does the statements says exactly the same like you said here? No. The problem is that, the statements you brought only referring them to be existential threats as a major villains and vague AS HELL. That comparison only works if the statements are equally specific and equally supported, which they usually aren’t, and that's EXACTLY what happened here.

Identical threat-level wording is not a quantifiable scale. You're always overstretching a statement.

And that wouldn't affect the topic we're discussing at all. She can still be weak in terms of "life and existence" and can have the same power as her Trilune (raw power; no haxs), although of course she would have more weaknesses than the Trilune (it still doesn't affect her AP).

The problem is she will never have the same power as her Trilune Goddess whatsoever, even raw power, because her prime state depends on her moon and her existence. That state of her, despite being buffed, she was also weakened AT THE SAME TIME. Because she drained her own power to unleash a great amount of power, this was stated by Alice and Traveler btw.

The burden is on you because you're making a positive claim:
“She can have the same raw power as Trilune despite being existentially weaker”
Because that requires a blatant evidence.
Yet, what's your evidence? Nothing. are u gonna brought up that “world threatening” statements again? That won't work and will never be accepted.

A buff applied to a weakened state does not automatically equal the peak state. This is a fkin basic scaling logic, btw. Peak forms are assumed superior by default.

Dottore straight up tell us he has the power of the 3 moons when trapping Bina

Of course he has. But has he fully utilize it yet? No. In the same cutscene, you see Iridescent Moon's Marrow rebelling against Dottore, which means Dottore hasn't fully controlled the power of the three moons.

They said the same about him when he got the Artificial Marrow, so yeah it is a outfit change

No. That transformation is where he starts to use its full power. This is obvious.

Dodging by centimeters
U know the definition of speedblizt? Think of what Ei did to Signora
Dottore didnt do that to Traveler Base

Why does he need to? That's just an upscale for Base Traveler for being able to dodge a top tier speed. Hell, we already saw that with them vs Asmoday.

6-B character can have the same speed as 5-B character if the former managed to dodge the latter's attacks. Speed and AP are different statistics. The biggest example of this is in One Piece; Usopp has FTL Speed despite being an absolute fodder because he managed to dodge St. Jaygarcia Saturn's attacks. And that is accepted now.

Asmoday didnt blizt them but did oneshot them
They can have gaps in power but same speed

Just like what I said before.

But you do it anyways

Not really.

 

[MSahla]

This is why I said it's a derailment the more you reply to my message because this is not a downgrade topic whatsoever. That's our current accepted god tier characters including Columbina.

I will not further reply to any of your messages if you reply to my post again. This is already a derailment.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

No comment on scaling, but the abilities are all good.

 

[MSahla]

No comment on scaling

Mhm. This isn't a new scaling, anyways. Those characters mentioned are currently accepted god tier characters in Genshin. So if people wants to remove some of them out of that level, they just have to make a CRT about it, not here, cause this is not a downgrade CRT at all.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Mhm. This isn't a new scaling, anyways. Those characters mentioned are currently accepted god tier characters in Genshin. So if people wants to remove some of them out of that level, they just have to make a CRT about it, not here, cause this is not a downgrade CRT at all.

I just don't comment on a verse's scaling/chainscaling unless I know it personally.

 

[MSahla]

No comment on scaling, but the abilities are all good.

Just want to clarify, this is also about the new Speed too, right? All of the new things except the scaling, basically.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Just want to clarify, this is also about the new Speed too, right? All of the new things except the scaling, basically.

All the ability additions are fine, I have no comments on the speed scaling.

 

[V999]

I think i can agree of the Abilities, but idk about the speed tho

 

[Puppet43]

The narrative relation itself matters and obvious that Nibelung > Sovereigns. Moon Goddesses are his direct manifestations/extensions to replace his very role itself. That gives legitimate scaling relevance

Yet Dragons by feats alone could fight the Shades/Phanes while the Moons were consider fodder to the latter
So said Manifestation/extension are not even consider worthy opponents to the dudes that dragons fought

Nibelung’s role is literally to govern and uphold the foundational laws of Teyvat

Yeah, a hax

because “containing/hosting an artifact” ≠ wielding or embodying its governing authority.

I mean, Scara should be wielding Ei's/Electro Authority if he wasnt disscarted

Does the statements says exactly the same like you said here? No. The problem is that, the statements you brought only referring them to be existential threats as a major villains and vague AS HELL. That comparison only works if the statements are equally specific and equally supported, which they usually aren’t, and that's EXACTLY what happened here.

"Vague as hell" but is litterally describing how much they would do to teyvat if they werent stopped in time

Identical threat-level wording is not a quantifiable scale. You're always overstretching a statement.

That won't work and will never be accepted

U should gennually check other verse scalings, this is pretty much allow
For example in JJK u have characters calling Dabura a calamity threath and that allows him to being Sukuna/Gojo lvl (Not to mention the whole system of Grades, because thats based on how much of a threath sorcerers/curses are)

Because she drained her own power to unleash a great amount of power, this was stated by Alice and Traveler btw.

How is she draining her own power, if she isnt even using her own power? She is litterally using other's powers

The burden is on you because you're making a positive claim:
“She can have the same raw power as Trilune despite being existentially weaker”
Because that requires a blatant evidence.
Yet, what's your evidence? Nothing. are u gonna brought up that “world threatening” statements again?

"Proof ur statment without using this specific point that proofs ur statment" ahh logic

A buff applied to a weakened state does not automatically equal the peak state. This is a fkin basic scaling logic, btw. Peak forms are assumed superior by default.

A buff that makes u equal to a top tier, its gonna make u a top tier regardeless of ur health condition

But has he fully utilize it yet? No.

HE LITTERALLY SAYS IT
OMG WE ARE IGNORING WHAT THE GAME TELL US BECAUSE WE WANT TO LARP?

you see Iridescent Moon's Marrow rebelling against Dottore, which means Dottore hasn't fully controlled the power of the three moons.

THE MARROW REBELLING AGAINST DOTTORE ISNT ABOUT HIM UTILIZING MOONS POWERS, IS ABOUT THE WORLD REJECTING HIM (Which in Arle/Traveler case is not the same because one is linked to the Marrow and the other is outside the world system), by your logic of "not rebelling" then Marrow Arle/Traveler should downscale of the 20 Yottatons because they are able to fully utilize their powers

That transformation is where he starts to use its full power. This is obvious.

Nope, he already able to use the 3 marrows prior in our "date" with him
ur point falls apart (+ no evidence to substance ur claim)

6-B character can have the same speed as 5-B character if the former managed to dodge the latter's attacks. Speed and AP are different statistics. The biggest example of this is in One Piece; Usopp has FTL Speed despite being an absolute fodder because he managed to dodge St. Jaygarcia Saturn's attacks. And that is accepted now.

Im litterally telling u to do this; make the Trilune/Rerir 10% same speed as Archon tiers, because they do not blizt not one in the top tier cast (Varka, Durin, Nefer, Traveler, Flins, Wanderer, etc); Sinners, Dragons, Shades and anything on that caliber can maintain FTL speeds
So why in eyes should the 3 dudes that do not blizt anyone be 10 times faster than the whole cast who caps at Relativistic speeds (At best)

Not really.

Yuh uh

 

[MSahla]

U should gennually check other verse scalings, this is pretty much allow
For example in JJK u have characters calling Dabura a calamity threath and that allows him to being Sukuna/Gojo lvl (Not to mention the whole system of Grades, because thats based on how much of a threath sorcerers/curses are)

Just gonna reply to this, but whataboutism isn't an acceptable argument in this wiki.

In any case, this is not a downgrade thread or whatever like you say. Those characters are currently accepted as the god tiers in Genshin. If you have a problem, make a thread about it.

 

[MSahla]

Bump

 

[Puppet43]

but whataboutism isn't an acceptable argument in this wiki.

6-B character can have the same speed as 5-B character if the former managed to dodge the latter's attacks. Speed and AP are different statistics. The biggest example of this is in One Piece; Usopp has FTL Speed despite being an absolute fodder because he managed to dodge St. Jaygarcia Saturn's attacks. And that is accepted now.

U litterally use a same type of argument man

 

[MSahla]

U litterally use a same type of argument man

Different context, and it's not a vague thing like yours.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

This seems fine, but I don't think traveller and bina should be scaled to that speed.

 

[MSahla]

This seems fine, but I don't think traveller and bina should be scaled to that speed.

May ask why?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

May ask why?

No on-screen feat or statement.

 

[Puppet43]

Different context, and it's not a vague thing like yours.

Im just using jjk as an example damn