Gaster match

[ZillertheBucko]

BASE SPAMTON VS [Sans Undertale]
Speed equalized I guess
fight takes place in a dark world in Florida
both in character

Spamton:
Sans:1
Jevil (inconclusive):

 

[ZillertheBucko]

me not reading the profiles and only going off of memory
the best way to create a matchup for sure

 

[ZillertheBucko]

bump

 

[Comiphorous]

Sans already beat Spamton NEO.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I’m aware

 

[Comiphorous]

So this is no different. This is the same match as before, but using a weaker spamton.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Actually I’m pretty sure the AP values have changed since then

 

[ZillertheBucko]

also the main reason I did this is because spamton NEO has strings, which gives everyone the win con of just one shotting the strings I guess
base spamton does not have the same weakness, of course, so that means he actually is significantly stronger than spamton neo on the wiki
base spamton does way better against sans I'd think

 

[Sans2345]

This has been done before.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

This has been done before.

Read the message directly above your post

 

[Sans2345]

Read the message directly above your post

This is technically no different, this is literally the same match but Spamton isn't NEO no more.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

This is technically no different, this is literally the same match but Spamton isn't NEO no more.

This is literally the same match except different
good logic mate
anyways does someone other than Sans2345 have something to say about this sans match

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

How would Sans' dura neg interact with Spamton?

 

[Comiphorous]

How would Sans' dura neg interact with Spamton?

Well it kills people up with the same kind of resistance he does, so im assuming it'd **** spamton's entire bloodline.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Well it kills people up with the same kind of resistance he does, so im assuming it'd **** spamton's entire bloodline.

Spamton has way more HP than Frisk tho (That's what made the Sans vs Undyne fight not a stomp)

 

[ZillertheBucko]

How would Sans' dura neg interact with Spamton?

Since it’s deltarune v undertale I believe it’s pretty much just taking it as physical damage
in other words, spamton would last longer than frisk did since he has the same resistance but scales higher

 

[Comiphorous]

Spamton has way more HP than Frisk tho (That's what made the Sans vs Undyne fight not a stomp)

Problem.

We dont know how much HP spamton has when he's not NEO.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Problem.

We dont know how much HP spamton has when he's not NEO.

We know his soul attack resistance scales to 9-A attacks that are stronger than sans’ 9-A, so at least we know spamton is significantly more tanky than level 19 frisk

 

[Comiphorous]

We know his soul attack resistance scales to 9-A attacks that are stronger than sans’ 9-A, so at least we know spamton is significantly more tanky than level 19 frisk

… so does frisk’s.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

… so does frisk’s.

Frisk’s level 19 AP < Base Spamton AP

 

[Omegabronic]

voting sans, sans's attacks can kill beings with resistance fast while ignoring their statistics + his teleportation and gravity manipulation to desoriantate spamton would give sans the advantage to win

 

[ZillertheBucko]

sans only negates durability against people without soul resistance
when it comes to deltarune v deltarune, undertale v undertale, and deltarune v undertale matches, their souls always scale to their AP, so their durability negation and soul related stuff basically cancels out and becomes irrelevant
and spamton, scaling to a higher value, would have a soul that is much harder to kill than frisk's level 19 soul

 

[Omegabronic]

sans only negates durability against people without soul resistance

Frisk has resistance, and i am talking about sans ignoring stats with his attacks, no matter what defense frisk has sans aways deals the same damage, also kr that acts as soul poison

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Frisk has resistance, and i am talking about sans ignoring stats with his attacks, no matter what defense frisk has sans aways deals the same damage, also kr that acts as soul poison

well it's a weird line between game mechanics and actual attacks, since sans' whole thing is kinda just abusing the system that frisk can't take 50% of a point of damage
but regardless spamton still has way more hp than level 20 frisk if we're going that route

 

[Omegabronic]

I don't see how thats game mechanics tbh, it is just sans ignoring your physical durability or soul durability since both are the same thing to frisk

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I don't see how thats game mechanics tbh, it is just sans ignoring your physical durability or soul durability since both are the same thing to frisk

the line between durability and stamina is really weird
we know for a fact that spamton's soul is far stronger defense wise than frisk, but we have no clue what his hp is
I mean logically, since deltarune and undertale are nearly the exact same thing and even have the same player and is implied to be the same SOUL, I feel like spamton's in-game hp would make the most sense to use
then again, darkners are also implied to not even have souls to begin with, so the specifics of this match may confuse me

 

[Omegabronic]

They are implied to not have?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

They are implied to not have?

well no, given that they're inanimate objects, and queen says that determination is something that lightners possess, heavily implying that darkners do not have it, implying they don't have souls
I may need to make a crt for this, though

 

[Omegabronic]

Ok, as for now lets consider that they have ok? Just to not get into hypotheticals and remain simple