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Galaxy level

all galaxies contain neutron stars
Don't think that's necessarily true.

It's also a question of whether in your average galaxy destruction feat we would even notice if a single star remains somewhere. (While for universe level complete destruction of everything is usually indicated)

Or in other words, we have decided in past threads that it's simply a good end to put the baseline at.
 
Thank you for helping out. Sorry about being a bother.
 
Don't think that's necessarily true.
Do you have a proof that some galaxies do not in fact, contain neutron stars, thus supporting your claim?

And besides, the tiering system uses the Milky Way as a standard for galaxies, which contains many neutron stars, which ALL needs to be destroyed in order for the whole galaxy to be destroyed
It's also a question of whether in your average galaxy destruction feat we would even notice if a single star remains somewhere. (While for universe level complete destruction of everything is usually indicated).
Usually, when a galaxy is destroyed, the implications is that it is entirely destroyed (and in cases they actually show said explosion, we see nothing left afterwards), rather than "oh it got destroyed but maybe a star remained despite the space being empty and there's no implication something survived". Assuming that stars survived this when we got no proof for them still existing doesn't seem right to me.

Besides, the same logic for galaxy you mentioned can also be used for universes too. Nothing changes except the scale of the blast
 
Do you have a proof that some galaxies do not in fact, contain neutron stars, thus supporting your claim?

And besides, the tiering system uses the Milky Way as a standard for galaxies, which contains many neutron stars, which ALL needs to be destroyed in order for the whole galaxy to be destroyed

Usually, when a galaxy is destroyed, the implications is that it is entirely destroyed (and in cases they actually show said explosion, we see nothing left afterwards), rather than "oh it got destroyed but maybe a star remained despite the space being empty and there's no implication something survived". Assuming that stars survived this when we got no proof for them still existing doesn't seem right to me.

Besides, the same logic for galaxy you mentioned can also be used for universes too. Nothing changes except the scale of the blast
Which can been destroyed from a omnidirectional blast that encompass a entire galaxy. Not half, but the entire distance.
Honestly, I don’t get the argument since that mean we have to factor in every GBE of all stars being destroyed, not just neutron stars which btw, IIRC I think we scale the durability of stars to GBE and its area.

So in the end, that argument doesn’t completely works since all the stars will been gone, not just neutron stars.
 
Do you have a proof that some galaxies do not in fact, contain neutron stars, thus supporting your claim?
That's kinda devils proof.

And besides, the tiering system uses the Milky Way as a standard for galaxies, which contains many neutron stars, which ALL needs to be destroyed in order for the whole galaxy to be destroyed
Debateable. Depends on whether you consider 3 not gravitationally bound neutron stars to still be a galaxy.

Usually, when a galaxy is destroyed, the implications is that it is entirely destroyed (and in cases they actually show said explosion, we see nothing left afterwards), rather than "oh it got destroyed but maybe a star remained despite the space being empty and there's no implication something survived". Assuming that stars survived this when we got no proof for them still existing doesn't seem right to me.
Neutron stars emit basically no visible light, so if a galaxy is destroyed and nothing visible is left that doesn't mean the neutron stars were destroyed.


Anyway, another important point is that the neutron star has to be located specifically at the very edge of the galaxy. If there is a neutron star but it's closer to the center it won't matter as much for the total destruction energy cause inverse square law and stuff.

Besides, the same logic for galaxy you mentioned can also be used for universes too. Nothing changes except the scale of the blast
The implications of universe destruction are usually much different.
 
DontTalk makes sense to me above.
 
Neutron stars emit basically no visible light, so if a galaxy is destroyed and nothing visible is left that doesn't mean the neutron stars were destroyed.
what if a character has statements that he can reduce "all things in the galaxy to nothingness" then can neutron star be usable for calc'ing for that character?
 
what if a character has statements that he can reduce "all things in the galaxy to nothingness" then can neutron star be usable for calc'ing for that character?
Again, I don’t see the point. You got the necessary energy to overcome the GBE of a neutron star at that point which is 4B also I don’t think we ever attempt to do subatomic destruction.
 
also each galaxy has a SMBH in the middle of it right? wouldn't the GBE of that affect a galaxy tiering related calc?
 
Anyway, another important point is that the neutron star has to be located specifically at the very edge of the galaxy. If there is a neutron star but it's closer to the center it won't matter as much for the total destruction energy cause inverse square law and stuff.
Even if the neutron star is not exactly at the edge, destroying it from its distance from the center will still exceed the level required for 3-C

The closet neutron star is 500 light years away from Earth, which is 26,000 light years away from the galactic center

To destroy that neutron star, it would take way more energy than destroying the sun at the edge of the milky way
 
that is true but the galaxy has a measurable estimated GBE
Galaxies don’t really have one and The main problem with that is the only thing keeping galaxies together is dark matter (they would fly apart if it was not keeping them together), which also likely isn’t even usable for this.
 
also each galaxy has a SMBH in the middle of it right? wouldn't the GBE of that affect a galaxy tiering related calc?
That can't be destroyed by conventional energy at all, so no. That would always remain after regular destruction.

Even if the neutron star is not exactly at the edge, destroying it from its distance from the center will still exceed the level required for 3-C

The closet neutron star is 500 light years away from Earth, which is 26,000 light years away from the galactic center

To destroy that neutron star, it would take way more energy than destroying the sun at the edge of the milky way
Means we additionally need to assume neutron star placement, though.

And seriously, are you going to say that a character which causes a galaxy-sized explosion from which we can't confirm whether a few non-visible stars remained should get below baseline galaxy level?

It's the level we agreed upon as definition for the baseline back when we decided the level, so ultimately there simply is consensus to set it there.

what if a character has statements that he can reduce "all things in the galaxy to nothingness" then can neutron star be usable for calc'ing for that character?
If they do it via inverse square law, maybe.
 
I do remember some more research papers, but we need more new updated information too to ensure it is fine to use I think. After all, research isn’t just done in one day too especially with new info
i'll look mor einto that but the links also have GBE of galaxy clusters

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More information from 2010 is found here


Same information is here

 
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Don't think that's necessarily true.

It's also a question of whether in your average galaxy destruction feat we would even notice if a single star remains somewhere. (While for universe level complete destruction of everything is usually indicated)

Or in other words, we have decided in past threads that it's simply a good end to put the baseline at.
I was asked by a friend to ask "Why is the baseline for galaxy level Not blowing up everything in the galaxy.
What makes universe level statements so different from galaxy level?"
 
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