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Frieza vs Piccolo

Piccolo (Universe 6 Saga) vs Final Form Frieza (Resurrection ‘F’)

Location: West City


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They both scale to base Goku, imo Piccolo shouldn't even have a 3-A key in U6 arc, but since Piccolo scales evenly with Frieza he should win by doing the same thing he did to Frost and SBC
 
Piccolo in rof got one shotted by first form frieza. But here he is 3-A for some reason just because he fought a heavily weakened frost.
Frieza stomps even in his first form
Agreed. Piccolo needed the Special Beam Cannon just to defeat Frost, and wasn't comparble to him at all throughout the match

Oh, and Frost isn't even remotely comparable to SSJ Goku. He only won because Goku was testing his power and Frost cheated with the needle, as shown when Vegeta, who is comparable to Goku, effortlessly one shots Frost while holding back a lot to not outright kill him
 
Yeah piccolo should be downgraded to 4-B. Even in TOP piccolo only vaguely scales above mssj gohan, which will put him solidly into 4-B but nowhere near 3-A.
Goku himself said that piccolo stand no chance against even a heavily weajened frost.
I am fine with frost's rating though.
From what I know he should be 3-A with SBC though
 
From what I know he should be 3-A with SBC though
No, he shouldn't because at no point in the saga Frost should be 3-A. Goku toyed with Frost the entire time, even after he transformed to his final form, and Vegeta literally needed to heavily restrict himself in order to not kill Frost in one hit, so scaling him to Goku and Vegeta wouldn't work.

Besides, Piccolo's sudden jump from High 4-C (as he was even weaker than SSJ Gohan, who scales far below First Form RoF Frieza) to 3-A in few days / weeks, as I'm pretty sure the U6 Saga doesn't happen a long time after RoF
 
No, he shouldn't because at no point in the saga Frost should be 3-A. Goku toyed with Frost the entire time, even after he transformed to his final form, and Vegeta literally needed to heavily restrict himself in order to not kill Frost in one hit, so scaling him to Goku and Vegeta wouldn't work.

Besides, Piccolo's sudden jump from High 4-C (as he was even weaker than SSJ Gohan, who scales far below First Form RoF Frieza) to 3-A in few days / weeks, as I'm pretty sure the U6 Saga doesn't happen a long time after RoF
Im referring to ToP Piccolo, the comment I was replying too said he'd only be 4-B in ToP
 
No, he shouldn't because at no point in the saga Frost should be 3-A. Goku toyed with Frost the entire time, even after he transformed to his final form, and Vegeta literally needed to heavily restrict himself in order to not kill Frost in one hit, so scaling him to Goku and Vegeta wouldn't work.

Besides, Piccolo's sudden jump from High 4-C (as he was even weaker than SSJ Gohan, who scales far below First Form RoF Frieza) to 3-A in few days / weeks, as I'm pretty sure the U6 Saga doesn't happen a long time after RoF
Full powered Frost was definitely 3-A. Heavily weakened frost(that piccolo fought) was not 3-A.
 
Actually didn't Vegeta go Super Saiyan right away to fight Frost. That's consistent with Goku feeling the need to go super saiyan so you can't say he was holding back. Vegeta's fight was also after Piccolo's fight so Frost should be more tired
 
Actually didn't Vegeta go Super Saiyan right away to fight Frost. That's consistent with Goku feeling the need to go super saiyan so you can't say he was holding back. Vegeta's fight was also after Piccolo's fight so Frost should be more tired
Vegeta was probably just pissed off at frost for cheating and for being an asshole.
But even if the "heavily weakened" argument doesn`t work, then Goku stating that piccolo won't stand a chance against frost should be sufficient. Although it would make piccolo 3-A with SBC.
 
Actually didn't Vegeta go Super Saiyan right away to fight Frost. That's consistent with Goku feeling the need to go super saiyan so you can't say he was holding back. Vegeta's fight was also after Piccolo's fight so Frost should be more tired
Vegeta said he held back after one-shotting Frost
 
Even a healthy Frost shouldn't scale to Goku. Goku was testing Frost the entire time they battled, even as he went SSJ, since he wanted to gauge his power level. Vegeta's feat of one shotting Frost effortlessly while holding back a lot clearly shows he doesn't scale to them in the slightest

If your argument for 3-A is just that, then Krillin should be 3-A too in the ToP since Goku was "pushed" to use SSJ against him. Why scale Frost and not Krillin based on the same feat? Hell Goku went Blue there so Krillin would be relative to SSJB by that logic
 
Even a healthy Frost shouldn't scale to Goku. Goku was testing Frost the entire time they battled, even as he went SSJ, since he wanted to gauge his power level. Vegeta's feat of one shotting Frost effortlessly while holding back a lot clearly shows he doesn't scale to them in the slightest

If your argument for 3-A is just that, then Krillin should be 3-A too in the ToP since Goku was "pushed" to use SSJ against him. Why scale Frost and not Krillin based on the same feat? Hell Goku went Blue there so Krillin would be relative to SSJB by that logic
Yes, but its just the fact that Vegeta went SSJ instead of staying at base, even though he said he held back to not kill him. Also doesn't Cabba consider Frost to be his superior?
 
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