FOX's X-Men: 8-C Upgrades

[RoTt35]

In this scene, Jean Grey and Cyclops survive a shockwave, that also shattered the dam, caused by his Optic Blast and her Telekinesis, which is 8-C. Therefore Cyclops should have a durability of 8-C, while Jean at most 8-C, since although she survived the attack her leg was broken.

Lady Deathstrike one-shot Cyclops, therefore she should be "At least 8-C". Wolverine is comparable to her, and other characters will also scale to that tier from him: Sabretooth, Weapon XI, X-23, X-24 and Mystique

Beast easily overpowered Wolverine, Vuk one-shot Beast, and HotPF Jean Grey is stronger than Vuk. The 8-C rating has a value of 0.81581 tons, which is 1.379× away from 8-C+ (1.125 tons), I don't know if the scaling chain is enough for any of them to upscale to 8-C+

 

[Propellus]

I guess the upgrades should be fine, but I disagree on upscaling them to 8-C+ because a gap of 1.379x is too big of an upscale

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah no, physically they shouldn't scale to 8-C, Jean pushed the shockwave away from her for good reason, neither were at the direct epicenter of that blast. Her leg being broken is just icing on the cake for me to reject scaling the shockwave to them even with inverse-square-law, period.

The flood stopping thing is fine to scale to her TK tho.

 

[RoTt35]

Her leg being broken

According to the novelization, Jean broke her leg because of the fall, not the shockwave

The concussion sent both of them flying. Scott, dazed and shaken, went skidding and tumbling along the floor for pretty much the length of the room. Jean wasn’t so fortunate. Her flight was shorter, her landing harder, and she cried out as her leg caught on a corner of pipe and snapped like a dry branch.

Although the novelization also says that they created a Big Bang that weakened the fabric of reality sending the energy to another plane of existence that was destroyed

inverse-square-law

Isn't that for explosions? This was a shockwave generated by energy and telekinesis. And she didn't try to push the shockwave, it just happened because of the clash of their powers

 

[Excellence616]

Following

 

[KLOL506]

According to the novelization, Jean broke her leg because of the fall, not the shockwave

Hmmmmm, didn't see that. Aight then.

Isn't that for explosions? This was a shockwave generated by energy and telekinesis. And she didn't try to push the shockwave, it just happened because of the clash of their powers

Said shockwave had overpressure, causing a bit of damage to the ceiling causing debris to fall off and the generators to move. The ground-based explosion formula is essentially a shockwave formula in and of itself. So the same principle would apply here.

 

[RoTt35]

Said shockwave had overpressure, causing a bit of damage to the ceiling causing debris to fall off and the generators to move. The ground-based explosion formula is essentially a shockwave formula in and of itself. So the same principle would apply here.

So the shockwave should be calculated as an explosion?

 

[KLOL506]

According to the novelization, Jean broke her leg because of the fall, not the shockwave

Hmmmmm, didn't see that. Aight then.

Isn't that for explosions? This was a shockwave generated by energy and telekinesis. And she didn't try to push the shockwave, it just happened because of the clash of their powers

Said shockwave had overpressure, causing a bit of damage to the ceiling causing debris to fall off and the generators to move. The ground-based explosion formula is essentially a shockwave formula in and of itself. So the same principle would apply here.

So the shockwave should be calculated as an explosion?

Don't think it needs to be calculated since you already have the AP yield of Jean's TK blasts, but you'd need to do inverse-square-law, yes.

 

[RoTt35]

I don't know if it's useful but the novelization states this about the shockwave:

The effects of the explosion radiated outward from the source, making themselves felt in every corner of the complex. The generator room itself shook like it was in the middle of an earthquake, the big machines rattling and groaning as they tried to cope with stresses that pushed the limits of their design specs. Dust and more fell from the ceiling, and off in the distance there was a resounding clang as a stretch of iron railing gave way. High up in the shadows, unnoticed, a seam opened in the wall and water began to leak through.

 

[RoTt35]

So I use this distance? Since the shockwave was generated by the clash of their powers

 

[KLOL506]

So I use this distance? Since the shockwave was generated by the clash of their powers

Probably.