Fire vs Ice: Kai (Ninjago) Vs Zamigo Delma (Super Sentai)

[Minaaaa]

Kai in the Staff of Elements Key
Zamigo optional equipment is restricted
Speed is equalized
Starting Distance: 10m
SBA otherwise

Kai:
Zamigo:
Incon: @Lloydblitzed​

 

[Lloydblitzed]

So from what Im reading so far, either Kai gets iced, or he zaps Zami with his lightning to death

 

[Minaaaa]

His invulneraability would probably make the lighting pass through his body. It only applies to blasts. Kai could try and poison him or mind hax him

 

[Lloydblitzed]

His invulneraability would probably make the lighting pass through his body.

Yeah true

It only applies to blasts.

Oh

Kai could try and poison him or mind hax him

Honestly, I think it just comes down to who has better combat (tho his mind hax isn't really dodgeable)

 

[Minaaaa]

Honestly, I think it just comes down to who has better combat (tho his mind hax isn't really dodgeable)

Finally got time to respond to this. Zamigo's main form of combat is his guns, which he would shoot out rapid fire which made a skilled acrobat like lupin red be on the offense the entire fight. He was able to avoid super lupin red's precognition in his first fight with him and later went on to beat him.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Finally got time to respond to this. Zamigo's main form of combat is his guns, which he would shoot out rapid fire which made a skilled acrobat like lupin red be on the offense the entire fight.

Interesting. Tho I'd argue Kai is good at dodging projectiled as well especially in close range

He was able to avoid super lupin red's precognition in his first fight with him and later went on to beat him.

Kai prob wouldn't be able to predict his move, yeah, but he can use his Dura Neg from the Mind Element. Honestly that may be the only wincoin he has here as even Spinjitzu won't help if Zamigo has higher AP, and blasts are mostly futile

 

[Minaaaa]

Hmm yeah looking back over it, ill restrict zamigo's optional equipment to give kai more of a chance.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Hmm yeah looking back over it, ill restrict zamigo's optional equipment to give kai more of a chance.

Doesn't that remove Zamigo's best counter to Lightning Resist neg stuff here as well as Poison?

 

[Minaaaa]

Can kai use the staff while evading attacks? (Dont remember ToE that much) as Zamigo would be constantly shooting at him.

 

[Minaaaa]

Doesn't that remove Zamigo's best counter to Lightning Resist neg stuff here as well as Poison?

Yeah but he could counter the lightning by quickly freezing something and bringing it in front of him.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Can kai use the staff while evading attacks? (Dont remember ToE that much)

He never had to dodge anything while weilding the staff, but I don't see why he would loose his base self skills with the staff, especially after seeing how skilled Chen became when using it

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Yeah but he could counter the lightning by quickly freezing something and bringing it in front of him.

Oh damn

 

[Minaaaa]

He never had to dodge anything while weilding the staff, but I don't see why he would loose his base self skills with the staff, especially after seeing how skilled Chen became when using it

Im saying would he be able to use his abilities in time while constantly avoiding getting shot? this would come down to who gets hit first. Even Lupin Red was unable to stop himself from getting hit. The Lupinrangers mainly have to dodge or block his shots with the scissors shield to be able to fight him

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Im saying would he be able to use his abilities in time while constantly avoiding getting shot? this would come down to who gets hit first. Even Lupin Red was unable to stop himself from getting hit. The Lupinrangers mainly have to dodge or block his shots with the scissors shield to be able to fight him

I mean, since they have equal speed, Kai will likely do the same thing he did with Clouse and reply with a blast himself

 

[Minaaaa]

I mean, since they have equal speed, Kai will likely do the same thing he did with Clouse and reply with a blast himself

Funnily enough, something similar to this happened and he was able to dodge it. Even with lupin red being able to see into the future

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Funnily enough, something similar to this happened and he was able to dodge it. Even with lupin red being able to see into the future

I mean, they'll end up shooting at each other and dodging infinitely until the one with less stamina gets drained up, or if Kai use Spinjitzu

 

[Minaaaa]

i dont think spinjitzu would help due to the AP gap

 

[Lloydblitzed]

i dont think spinjitzu would help due to the AP gap

I meant that he could dodge faster so that he could attack first using that

 

[Minaaaa]

Yeah but speed is equalized and I don't think spinjitzu has an accepted speed multiplier. Plus when Zamigo starts shooting, he doesn't really stop unless the opponent tried to h2h

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Yeah but speed is equalized and I don't think spinjitzu has an accepted speed multiplier. Plus when Zamigo starts shooting, he doesn't really stop unless the opponent tried to h2h

where does Zamigo scale in Stamina (like what's his best stamina feat)

 

[Minaaaa]

where does Zamigo scale in Stamina (like what's his best stamina feat)

He scales to the lupinrangers, who scale to the patrangers. Patren 1gou was able to keep fighting for a while even after being poisoned. The lupinrangers can perform acrobatic maneuvers without getting tired. Zamigo can easily fight 4 of the lupinrangers at once without getting tired

 

[Lloydblitzed]

He scales to the lupinrangers, who scale to the patrangers. Patren 1gou was able to keep fighting for a while even after being poisoned. The lupinrangers can perform acrobatic maneuvers without getting tired. Zamigo can easily fight 4 of the lupinrangers at once without getting tired

Kai scale to Lloyd who was fighting the stone warriors even after his mech got taken down and he had a broken leg, not to count he kept up with Nindroid who have infinite stamina

 

[Minaaaa]

This would come down to if kai could dodge his blasts long/fast enough

 

[Lloydblitzed]

This would come down to if kai could dodge his blasts long/fast enough

Yeah but speed is equalized and I don't think spinjitzu has an accepted speed multiplier. Plus when Zamigo starts shooting, he doesn't really stop unless the opponent tried to h2h

This is why I brought up Spinjitzu. Even if it doesn't have an accepted multiplier, it still amps his speed

 

[Minaaaa]

This is why I brought up Spinjitzu. Even if it doesn't have an accepted multiplier, it still amps his speed

Yeah but idk if speed amps would help in a speed equals match. Plus zamigo has reacted to precog before

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Yeah but idk if speed amps would help in a speed equals match.

There's this rule

Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles.

How high does he scale speed wise (like 1x FTL? 30x FTL ?)

Plus zamigo has reacted to precog before

That's just gonna end in incon at this rate

 

[Minaaaa]

How high does he scale speed wise (like 1x FTL? 30x FTL ?)

he scales to this for now. but hes supposed to be higher

 

[Lloydblitzed]

he scales to this for now. but hes supposed to be higher

Oh. So yeah unless there's a better stamina feat from either, Im going with incon

 

[Minaaaa]

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