Fire Ninja vs Dino Knight (Kai vs Ryusoul Red)

[Lloydblitzed]

How when Ryusoul has vastly more combat experience and skill than him? hes been doing nothing but training since he was a child for decades. not to mention the druidons doing nothing in the 65 million years since they were born getting stronger. He went his entire debut fight barely getting hit

More combat experience doesn't automatically equate to more skills. Kai can fight Nokt, who has 1k + years of experience and still match him in skills

AP doesnt counter power null unless the powers work differently.

I'd like to see him dodge and null numerous big explosions

Doesnt apply to max

Prove it

HayaSoul regularly blitzs MFTL characters & its gravity based so it would be hard for him to break out

The AP gap will allow Kai to just no sell these attacks as soon as Spinjitzu is activated

 

[Minaaaa]

More combat experience doesn't automatically equate to more skills. Kai can fight Nokt, who has 1k + years of experience and still match him in skills

this isnt even dragons rising kai so this doesnt matter.

I'd like to see him dodge and null numerous big explosions

His ice would already null them + black holes can absorb them

Prove it

Its in the clip i posted at 1:30

The AP gap will allow Kai to just no sell these attacks as soon as Spinjitzu is activated

Remember, he can fuse two together. He can amp his speed and dura neg him to death or do any other combinations

 

[AigerTheKing]

How when Ryusoul has vastly more combat experience and skill than him? hes been doing nothing but training since he was a child for decades. not to mention the druidons doing nothing in the 65 million years since they were born getting stronger. He went his entire debut fight barely getting hit

Kai matched guys capable of this. He's not getting outskilled

 

[AigerTheKing]

His ice would already null them + black holes can absorb them

That's the most dodgeable projectile tbh

Remember, he can fuse two together. He can amp his speed and dura neg him to death or do any other combinations

Why wouldn't he get one shot upon entering in contact with Kai's Spinjitzu to begin with

 

[Minaaaa]

Kai matched guys capable of this. He's not getting outskilled

Ryusoul has far more experience and a better skill chain

For Gaisoulg, Hes able to fight against 5 other skilled past sentai members and win. Hes able to beat ToQ5gou, who defeated Deka Master. He also considered AkaNinger strong enough to previously possess him. All of the Ryusoulgers can easily defeat groups of the foot soliders of the season with ease

Why wouldn't he get one shot upon entering in contact with Kai's Spinjitzu to begin with

being far faster?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

His ice would already null them + black holes can absorb them

There's also nothing that suggest Ryusoul will resist Kai's heat, nor burn him with Fire whatsoever

 

[Minaaaa]

There's also nothing that suggest Ryusoul will resist Kai's heat, nor burn him with Fire whatsoever

it would get nulled by ice + has water to put it out + his armor already has power null

 

[AigerTheKing]

Ryusoul has far more experience and a better skill chain

Ryusoul isn't get close to Kai to begin with anyways

being far faster?

being faster doesn't grant higher AP, and both can reletively activate their speed amps at the same time

 

[AigerTheKing]

it would get nulled by ice +

Dodges and launches an explosive blast on the ground

has water to put it out

Water doesn't work on higher AP

 

[Minaaaa]

being faster doesn't grant higher AP, and both can reletively activate their speed amps at the same time

like i said earlier, he can use two at a time. He can speed up and dura neg him + his speed amp is bigger than kai's

Water doesn't work on higher AP

what?? higher ap wouldnt negate that

 

[AigerTheKing]

like i said earlier, he can use two at a time. He can speed up and dura neg him + his speed amp is bigger than kai's

That's OOC asf

• Dino Slash (ディノスラッシュ Dino Surasshu): By inserting the spare Red RyuSoul in the Ryusoul Ken, Ryusoul Red gathers all of Tyramigo's power and executes an extremely powerful energy slash, that takes the form of Tyramigo's head, with the Ryusoul Ken.
• Burning Dino Slash (バーニングディノスラッシュ Bāningu Dino Surasshu): Ryusoul Red unleashes powerful flame slashes with the Ryusoul Ken, which becomes a thick, elongated flaming whip that can utterly destroy a swarm of Drunn soldiers.
• Dino Sonic Blow (ディノソニックブロー Dino Sonikku Burō): Ryusoul Red unleashes five incredibly powerful seismic punches before unleashing a series of seismic jabs that shatters the Minosaur's skeletal structure before being destroyed.
• Blizzard Dino Slash (ブリザードディノスラッシュ Burizādo Dino Surasshu): Ryusoul Red generates subzero wind with the Ryusoul Ken that solidifies into a manifestation of Pterardon's head and executes an ice slash that's accompanied by a manifestation of Pterardon's body.
• Everlasting Claw (エバーラスティングクロー Ebārasutingu Kurō): By pressing the Ryusoul emblem on the Max Ryusoul Changer with the inserted Max RyuSoul, Max Ryusoul Red generates Gaisoulg's energy and combines it with his own, executing a drill-style spiraling strike with the Max Ryusoul Changer.
• Everlasting Dino Slash (エバーラスティングディノスラッシュ Ebārasutingu Dino Surasshu): By bumping the side button on the Max Ryusoul Changer with the Ryusoul Ken's handle, Max Ryusoul Red generates flaming energy through both weapons and executes a red energy slash with the Ryusoul Ken followed by a triple yellow energy slash with the Max Ryusoul Changer.

 

[Minaaaa]

That's OOC asf

Its not OOC, he'd use what he could to beat him. even if he was, he can still do gravity + ice like he did in his debut

 

[Lloydblitzed]

it would get nulled by ice + has water to put it out + his armor already has power null

Guess what Kai resist

Power Nullification (Unaffected by the Crystal Warriors, who are powered by Vengestone, a material that can negate and nullify Elemental Powers)

 

[AigerTheKing]

what?? higher ap wouldnt negate that

Water Manip is bound to his AP lol

 

[Minaaaa]

Guess what Kai resist

Still has his black holes to absorb them

 

[Lloydblitzed]

like i said earlier, he can use two at a time. He can speed up and dura neg him + his speed amp is bigger than kai's

He can't activate it faster than Kai can activate Spinjitzu, his dura neg won't be useful either as he needs to physical hurt Kai himself, not the forcefield

 

[AigerTheKing]

Still has his black holes to absorb them

Proceeds to destroy the gun

Its in the clip i posted at 1:30

It take less time for Kai to use his Fire than Ryusoul takes to activate any of these

 

[Minaaaa]

He can't activate it faster than Kai can activate Spinjitzu, his dura neg won't be useful either as he needs to physical hurt Kai himself, not the forcefield

It would hit through the shield

Proceeds to destroy the gun

what gun? he doesnt have one

 

[Robo432343]

It would hit through the shield

it cant hit through the shield because of Low 1-C dura

 

[Minaaaa]

it cant hit through the shield because of Low 1-C dura

its a dura neg ability???

 

[AigerTheKing]

It would hit through the shield

That took him a hell amount of punches, he doesn't have that time

 

[AigerTheKing]

its a dura neg ability???

Dura neg ability that took 50 punches to work throught a shield lol

 

[Robo432343]

its a dura neg ability???

wtf
it is a massive NLF to assume its dura negging 5-D dura

 

[Minaaaa]

That took him a hell amount of punches, he doesn't have that time

He was farther down??

Dura neg ability that took 50 punches to work throught a shield lol

He'd get stunned by the initial hit

 

[Minaaaa]

wtf
it is a massive NLF to assume its dura negging 5-D dura

what??? its in the name durability NEGATION. it negates durability

 

[Robo432343]

what??? its in the name durability NEGATION. it negates durability

so someone who is 9-B with dura neg is negating someone with High 1-A dura

 

[Lloydblitzed]

what??? its in the name durability NEGATION. it negates durability

Prove it can negate Forcefields

He'd get stunned by the initial hit

He'd get punched away lol

 

[Lloydblitzed]

He was farther down??

It will just end up like here

 

[Minaaaa]

so someone who is 9-B with dura neg is negating someone with High 1-A dura

read the ability man. The ability that allows users to damage the target, regardless of their durability. In particular, it enables causing serious damage to an opponent, even with the user's lack of comparable or greater attack potency.

Prove it can negate Forcefields

on the forcefield creation page:

• As potent as forcefields are, they are likely to be ignored by certain durability-negating attacks.

He'd get punched away lol

not if hes getting blizted and dura negged at the same time

 

[Lloydblitzed]

not if hes getting blizted and dura negged at the same time

Again, he can't activate his wincoins before Kai can activate Spinjitzu, and once he does, his dura neg ability will be useless as he'll get one shotted by the impact

 

[Minaaaa]

Again, he can't activate his wincoins before Kai can activate Spinjitzu, and once he does, his dura neg ability will be useless as he'll get one shotted by the impact

Dura neg isnt even his only wincon, its just one of them and one shotted by what impact?

 

[Robo432343]

read the ability man. The ability that allows users to damage the target, regardless of their durability. In particular, it enables causing serious damage to an opponent, even with the user's lack of comparable or greater attack potency.

please learn what an NLF is

if you think a 2-C character is dura negging 5-D dura there is no point in continuing this conversation or even this thread

 

[AigerTheKing]

not if hes getting blizted

Nobody gets blitzed

• The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc.
  • Speed Amplification techniques are assumed to grant the same percentile of increase to a character's equalized speeds, as they would to their usual speeds.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Dura neg isnt even his only wincon, its just one of them and one shotted by what impact?

It will just end up like here

 

[Minaaaa]

if you think a 2-C character is dura negging 5-D dura there is no point in continuing this conversation or even this thread

dude, DoshinSoul directly attacks his internals. Kai doesnt have HDE so this doesnt matter anyways. The literal point of dura neg is to attack REGARDLESS of durability. have 5D dura doesnt matter when doshinsoul's basic punches bypass it

 

[Minaaaa]

It will just end up like here

it hits through the shield??? plus kai wouldnt have time to do this if hes getting constantly dura negged

 

[Minaaaa]

Nobody gets blitzed

didnt kai lose to tails because of speed amps? this just means if a character has a speed amp of 3, then it would still be a speed amp of 3

 

[Lloydblitzed]

it hits through the shield??? plus kai wouldnt have time to do this if hes getting constantly dura negged

Yes but while Kai only gets stunned, Ryusoul gets one shotted away by the impact, due th he shield itself scaling far above his dura. Newton 2nd Law of motion exists

 

[Lloydblitzed]

didnt kai lose to tails because of speed amps? this just means if a character has a speed amp of 3, then it would still be a speed amp of 3

not under the same logic.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

didnt kai lose to tails because of speed amps? this just means if a character has a speed amp of 3, then it would still be a speed amp of 3

Ryu's blitz amp is an unquantifiable multiplier, so this will apply to their base speed being equalized

• Speed Amplification techniques are assumed to grant the same percentile of increase to a character's equalized speeds, as they would to their usual speeds.

while Tail has a stated 8x Multiplier and thus wouldn't fill up that rule