Fire Force character tiers question

[Swerzye29038]

As a lot of people know by now, Fire Force characters in more recent chapters have shown huge feats that should massively upgrade their profiles

Exhibit 1 and a possible Exhibit 1.5: Arthur splits the Earth in half with his Earth Divider attack (Exhibit 1), and said attack was able to reach the Earth from the moon in seemingly an instant (Exhibit 1.5). This yielded Multi-Continental levels of Energy based off of the last calc I've seen. I haven't heard much on the speed of the attack itself, but the scan itself shows that the attack reached the Earth almost instantly, which should clock it in the FTL range (although, this isn't consistent narrative wise for reasons I'm pretty sure everyone knows).

Exhibit 2: Faerie can make atoms the same mass as Earth. This is a clear cut Planet level feat.

Exhibit 3 and Exhibit 4: Faerie can move the Moon and drop it onto Earth (Exhibit 3), and Shinra was able to kick said Moon (Exhibit 4). This was calced at Large Planet level.



I've seen similar discussions floating around the wiki a couple of months back but they seemingly went nowhere. I've even seen calculations for the Moon drop, Moon kick, and Earth divider, but those also went nowhere. So can someone explain why they haven't been upgraded?

 

[Nierre]

The Fire Force Profiles are Outdated AF

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

People are waiting for the arc to end to add the new feats

 

[Swerzye29038]

The Fire Force Profiles are Outdated AF

Exactly, which is why I'm kinda perplexed by the profiles. Based on the clear cut nature of the feats this upgrade should be a non-issue. But months have passed and they've went nowhere (or at least according to what I've seen)

 

[Swerzye29038]

People are waiting for the arc to end to add the new feats

Why though? If I recall my memory, Dragon Ball profiles have been upgraded several times throughout the current arc. What's different here? Likewise, pretty much all of these feats have either been calculated or are clear cut. Why not upgrade them now?

 

[Duedate8898]

It's more just to have to make less CRTs than anything else. The idea is to see all the changes the current arc introduces, whether they be abilities or stats, then implement them once it all's done. Especially since Fire Force has a smaller community of supporters here than a lot of other verses, it'll help make the CRT be done without too much stalling or waiting or potential pushback of needing more context once the upgrades do come up.

 

[Swerzye29038]

It's more just to have to make less CRTs than anything else. The idea is to see all the changes the current arc introduces, whether they be abilities or stats, then implement them once it all's done. Especially since Fire Force has a smaller community of supporters here than a lot of other verses, it'll help make the CRT be done without too much stalling or waiting or potential pushback of needing more context once the upgrades do come up.

I get that but wouldn't it be quicker to upgrade them now and just add more feats down the line?

 

[Duedate8898]

Oh sure, it was more that most of those within the Fire Force group here on VsBattles wanted to wait for the arc to end before doing anything. If you do wish to upgrade them now, I'm sure there won't be too much pushback for it as long as we have the right calcs and scans in order, but most seem to want to wait last I checked.

 

[Dalesean027]

We also already have the calcs for arthur splitting earth but I don't think there's one for shinra kicking the moon back into orbit

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

The manga is about to end. After the finale, a thread can be made to discuss and compile feats, then calculations and scaling can be prepared for a big CRT.

 

[Swerzye29038]

Oh sure, it was more that most of those within the Fire Force group here on VsBattles wanted to wait for the arc to end before doing anything. If you do wish to upgrade them now, I'm sure there won't be too much pushback for it as long as we have the right calcs and scans in order, but most seem to want to wait last I checked.

Okay, how do I go about hearing the opinions of other Fire Force supporters so I can have them upgraded?

As for the calcs, I've seen a good one on a separate wiki similar to this one which can be used for the moon drop (If there aren't any issues with it)

https://all-fiction-battles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Oblivion_Of_The_Endless/Fire_Force_-_Moon_Fall

People who scale to this:

Shinra
Sho
Arthur
Faerie
Charon
Benimaru
Leonard Burns
Dragon

Here's one for Arthur splitting the Earth in half

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blogemonGodMitchAubin/Fire_Force:_Arthur_vs_Dragon_Feat

People who scale to this:

Arthur Boyle

Then there's Faerie making the mass of an atom equal to the mass of the Earth

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11136/111367548/8068527-0215-007.png

people who scale to this:

Shinra
Sho
Arthur
Faerie
Charon
Benimaru
Leonard Burns
Dragon

 

[Nierre]

https://all-fiction-battles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Oblivion_Of_The_Endless/Fire_Force_-_Moon_Fall

https://cdn.**********.com/emojis/830494833835507733.png?size=160

 

[Swerzye29038]

We also already have the calcs for arthur splitting earth but I don't think there's one for shinra kicking the moon back into orbit

Honestly I need to learn how to calculate this stuff on my own, but Shinra scales above Faerie who was the one who accomplished the feat.

 

[Dalesean027]

Okay, how do I go about hearing the opinions of other Fire Force supporters so I can have them upgraded?

As for the calcs, I've seen a good one on a separate wiki similar to this one which can be used for the moon drop (If there aren't any issues with it)

https://all-fiction-battles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Oblivion_Of_The_Endless/Fire_Force_-_Moon_Fall

People who scale to this:

Shinra
Sho
Arthur
Faerie
Charon
Benimaru
Leonard Burns

Here's one for Arthur splitting the Earth in half

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blogemonGodMitchAubin/Fire_Force:_Arthur_vs_Dragon_Feat

People who scale to this:

Arthur Boyle

Then there's Faerie making the mass of an atom equal to the mass of the Earth

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11136/111367548/8068527-0215-007.png

people who scale to this:

Shinra
Sho
Arthur
Faerie
Charon
Benimaru
Leonard Burns

dragon and a few others don't have a profile at all so they'll need some when this is applied

 

[Swerzye29038]

https://cdn.**********.com/emojis/830494833835507733.png?size=160

Is that not allowed here? I don't know the rules, sorry.

 

[Swerzye29038]

The manga is about to end. After the finale, a thread can be made to discuss and compile feats, then calculations and scaling can be prepared for a big CRT.

Wouldn't it be quicker to make changes now?

 

[Dalesean027]

Wouldn't it be quicker to make changes now?

Quicker isn't what they're going for it's just so it can all be done accurately and the best way possible especially since this will be a large task to undergo what with new character keys and profiles needing to be made along with the power of the verse summary since it's all entirely outdated

 

[PrinceofPein]

We already talked about this among FF supporters, please wait for the arc to end before a CRT. There are so many more thins missing such as abilities and your scaling is a bit wonky.

 

[Majinere566]

Hmmmm so the arc has been ended

 

[Dalesean027]

Yep so talk in the discussion thread we still have lots of work to do so it's best to get that all sorted out before focusing on any of these CRT's

 

[Majinere566]

Yep so talk in the discussion thread we still have lots of work to do so it's best to get that all sorted out before focusing on any of these CRT's

Link?

 

[Dalesean027]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/everything-fire-brigade-of-flames-general-discussion-thread.16989/page-8#post-4618436