FE3H

[No_Might]

First lets start eith the heros relics. they should not be city class. the sotc was never confirmed to be able to cleave a mountain in half. claude only confirmed that the sotc was the sword RUMORED to be able to do it.

next metoers in fe3h are not city level. NOTHING in the game points to this. a calc from an entirely diffrerent game shouldnt even be counted. if metoer was a city level attack why would tws feel the need to use the javelins? they also look nothing like a city level attack in gameplay.

next for rhea being able to "over power" the javelins mean nothing. they are missiles. they are supposed to blow up and they STILL do. i dont see how rhea having them blow up as desired is a reason to put her as country level.

rhea was also only stated to be a threat to fodlan WITH her children and even then they were only stated to be able to in a months time. destroying fodlan can also simply mean destroying cities and towns, not wiping the entire continent of the map.

also ftl speed? im sorry but nothing in lore or in story has them going at these speeds. maybe reaction time but ftl speed is honestly a reach. with that are we going to assume normal soldiers are lightspeed too? really?

 

[Remy_the_wolf]

• Faceplam

 

[No_Might]

i made a crt like you told me to

 

[Remy_the_wolf]

i hope this gets closed , the amount of cherry picking in this so called "downgrade" , is unbeliviable.

 

[No_Might]

care to point out this cherry picking?


because alot of my points seem valid. especially the one adressing mountain level sotc

 

[Remy_the_wolf]

yes , you point out that the sword of the creator was only rumored to be able to destroy mountains , and say that doesnt count as a feat , acept , that there is nothing that debunks that the sword can mountions , you say meator cant destroy a city , because of game mechanic and attack animation , you say rhea and byleth should not be country level , even though rhea can take a javelin of light head on , by just saying the missles explode and thats what they are suposse to do , ignoring that they are still country-level missiles that cause a explsoion and both byleth and the immaculate one can dish out this much damage , this thread was either made to troll or is out of spite.

 

[No_Might]

is there anything that can prove the sword is mountain level? not to mention it gets stronger when awakened with byeths powers and the relics dont scale to sublime sotc.yes because game mechanic and animation is the SAME reason why they are regarded as lightspeed. ya sure she can tank a javelin but does that mean she is country level? no. also what does rhea hitting a godamn explosive and it exploding have anything to do with her being country level? i could see if she pushed back the explosion but she didnt.

 

[Planck69]

Considering that you've repeatedly made this despite staff telling you to stop, you're probably going to the RvR thread.

@Rem

Pointless endeavour trying to change his mind. Just let it go.

 

[Remy_the_wolf]

yeah dude , just stop , for your own good , your going against staff wishes , they told you to not do this again and you disobeyed them , this is quite clearly blatant spite or trolling , either one seams like a possibilty.

 

[No_Might]

are you all serious right now? you tell me to make a crt and thats what i did. these are all valid arguments. NO staff told me not to make a crt.

 

[Remy_the_wolf]

accept , you made this thread , they told you not to do it , they debunked it and you will countine to repeat yourself, with blatant downplay and spite , i will be leaving this thread , good day to you.

 

[No_Might]

no one told me not to do it. dont know were you got this from

no one debunked these points but you can keep telling you that. you didn teven adress my respose above

 

[TheGatememer]

Ignoring all the comments on this thread, I will address the points.

I don't know why you are trying to disprove this. There are far better feats in three houses. Not only that, but it's very uncontroversial for them to be this tier. I mean it's implied that the dark relics can raze entire cities and towns in a very short timeframe, as seen towards the end of the VW route.

Attack potency=\=Destructive Capability. Even if the meteor can't destroy a city/town, it doesn't mean that it can't strike with that much energy. Pretty sure TWSITD wanted to be sure that they could get rid of the resistance army, so they probs wanted to take no chances. Either that or PIS.

I don't have anything to say to this.

Again, this is just a supporting statement. The real reason IO is small country level+ is that they can tank JoL, and are comparable if not superior to beings that can harm her at full power. Remember that the IO was SEVERLY weakened when she tanked the two Javelins. A full power one should be able to tank one with not much issue. Also, in the dark library, it implies that Sothis was practically unharmed when the Agarthans attacked with the javelins of light. IO should be somewhat comparable to a prime Sothis.

FTL speeds only apply to god tiers. The god tiers are vastly superior in terms of speed to the rest of the cast, as seen when Edelgard blitzed Ferdinand in her supports.

before you say anything about JoL not being mountain/small country level, we have already said that it's an AoE fallacy. There is a guy in abyss that even confirms that the Javelin of Lght that hit Ailel was originally headed for Gareg Mach, but was reflected and went towards Ailel. And in the shadow library, it has been stated that the javelins had "utterly destroyed" the countries to the point they aren't even on the map anymore.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Sigh.

First off all, stop deliberately trolling and ignoring feats. The "Cutting the mountain" is outright stated in lore and Claude, who did the research eventually figured out that everything about the power of the Hero's Relics was true. And also, Claude is an absolute genius; so he's definitely a reliable source.

The Javelins of Light have multiple feats that make them far more powerful than real world nukes. Seriously, actually pay attentio to the calculations instead of just using personal bias to deliberately downplay verses that are much stronger than you think. Same with the statements that nuke the valley, you keep spamming the same pathetic arguments over and over again.

She literally tanks multiple Javelins; she flies up taking the direct hits head on and withstanding the epic center of each and every blast. She definitely scales. Not to mention this was a heavily weakened IO due to spending years in a prison with no nutritious food to eat. It's not like the Crimson Flower route where she actually trained herself to near peak condition, or the Church route where she actually used the true ultimate berserk form as opposed to the pseudo transformation.

As for the speed, actually look at the darn math. They have multiple feats of mid tiers dodging lightning bolts at Massively Hypersonic+ speed and god tiers dodging light at FTL.

I'm closing this due to the constantly debunked arguments getting spammed.