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Fate/Grand Order Servant Upgrades maybe needed

  • WARNING A LOT OF READING AHEAD!* This post maybe subject to heavy editing, and modification. This is only a list of feats i gathered from my current progress. If there is any errors please point them out. I would also like to say that there is much I am confused on, or don't exactly understand. I would like help in understanding it much better. Lastly, i am only on Chapter Okeanos. I am not caught up to the current chapter that was released. Thank you.

All Holy Grail feats of Fate/Grand Order


*GudaGuda Honnoji Event!*


https://imgur.com/RkrcerA


https://imgur.com/X3OUZM7


https://imgur.com/XbpuoDQ


https://imgur.com/bW1S8dD


https://imgur.com/1aNWvgU


https://imgur.com/dSj7ZKE


https://imgur.com/twDv9mL


https://imgur.com/vES5LLh


This next few are important! They tie in with what Scathach says in her event.


https://imgur.com/Ut82CrI


Important words here

- "I shall burn the world and its gods to ash! For I am Oda Nobunaga, Demon King of the Sizth Heaven! *laughing* Kneel before the power that slays even gods!"


https://imgur.com/VBVus9p


https://imgur.com/Sl7wakC


She then procedes to incinerate the world.


Other information, within the Event there is mentionings of "Space, dimension, and Phase space." The Holy Grail was tampered with and caused a space-time distortion that ended up causing 2 universes to sort of overlap and intertwine that were never ment to be together. There is mentioning of phase space being invovled, but i don't know that is.


Other feats:


https://imgur.com/rweaBmt


https://imgur.com/cfDynmg


It is capable of debuffing, nerfing, or taking power away from beings.


https://imgur.com/MJ9EjkL


Capable of reading minds and manifeting them into reality.


https://imgur.com/85HdNIv


It is capable of mind controlling servants,corruptting their spirit cores, damaging their spirit cores, and even modifying memories.


Scathach Trail Quest


https://imgur.com/kbzWsr3


https://imgur.com/gNczjVJ


https://imgur.com/LRw0j5S


The imporant quote to take into factor here is this. "And then there are the "Authorities" the gods are said to possess. But the incineration of humanity doesn't belong to any of those." Then the other imporant qoute would be "Thus, it is a great deed. A human "feat" which surpasses even the "gods." I do belive this would tie in with what Bad Nobu was speaking about.


Other Feats:


https://imgur.com/kbzWsr3


I am not for sure what to make of this one. What kind of feat would this one be? "This great deed doesn't just burn away life, but death itself."


https://imgur.com/gvYVHUr


"Ghost that were abandoned by the wheel of rincarnation."


Fate/Grand Order -First Order- Anime special!


https://imgur.com/F4WmfS6


"A Holy Grail is a magic Vessel that contains the foundation of all forms of magic." I will touch upon this again when we get back into the main story of the game.


https://imgur.com/7b0sFv


https://imgur.com/ZSMcji4


Saber was mainting a dimension, an entire time period, an entire era through the power of the Holy Grail. I will go into dimensional size later.This happens in the Main story of the game too and I will touch this later when I get to that.


https://imgur.com/EMgpxT7


https://imgur.com/tXe28I9


The Holy Grail is the cause of the space-time distortions.


https://imgur.com/ORQUH13


Lev linked together two seperate universes as one through a small space-time portal.


Fate/Grand Order (Main mobile platform game.)


https://imgur.com/rWysEIT


"It's like a hole that just appeared out of nowhere. The hole itself is cut off from the proper temporal axis. The 2004 singulairty exist apart from the past, and future. There's no need to connect it to our present." - That each era is a seperate universe that branched off differently from the "Proper" universe therefore creating a different parrellel universe. Without the proper past then the present will slowly crumble and there is no future for that universe it will simply fade away. I wll touch back about this as Fate/Extella The Umbral Star explains more in her prolouge.


https://imgur.com/nJiRGuJ


https://imgur.com/PQiiOYZ


https://imgur.com/JuKXS6o


Those were just some timeline duckery, and restoration stuff.


https://imgur.com/0ElC4Sc


https://imgur.com/GIIUKUq


https://imgur.com/4NoDoUH


https://imgur.com/G7aOQ27


https://imgur.com/HdIzFdg


All the Gods, and Phantasmals exist in a higher plane. Therefore they are not bound by time, or at least not the same time the humans follow. Thos happened in Saint Georgias (may be spelled wrong.) interlude. The dragons still existed because of that fact they are not bound by the same time, and because of that they were causing a dimensional disturbanace that threatened to throw the universe into a different branched path.


https://imgur.com/TXx6cLj


This one ties into with what Scathach and Bad Nobu has said as well. The Counter Force doesn't appear to be working in the singularities.


https://imgur.com/U4R7Ns6


https://imgur.com/TJaPqq2


https://imgur.com/9pkRMVd


Saber Altria Altered throught he powr of the Holy Grail was sustaining the entire era. I do not know if that would translate into her sustaining the entire dimension/universe however.


https://imgur.com/o0mFBI7


This is lev connecting two seperate dimensions, or space-times together through the Holy Grail.


https://imgur.com/qBFoIQt


The Holy Grail is the Root of all magecraft. The greater grail is supposedly a direct link to "The Root" or also known as "Akasha." That would explain why its supposeldy "Omnipotent" or can "Grant any wish." This would mean it is superior to even the 5 true magics, and the authority of the Gods.


https://imgur.com/aJmGVUB


The Holy Grail does not just choose anyone. I repeat! The Holy Grail does not grant the wisher any desire! He acts as if it has a will of its own. It may choose too, or may not choose to grant a wish.


https://imgur.com/JhavYYt


Not only do you have to worry about rejection, but even the Holy Grail may go out of control. If you try to forcefully merge yourself with the Holy Grail you may then end up being consumed by it, and not even get the same power up compared to other character who have obtained it.


The next few scans are especially important pretaining to "Regulations" or "the will" of the grail.


https://imgur.com/GN8ATs1


"I'll explain. The Grail is the law that decides how magical energies in a dimension is used."


In other words, the Holy Grail can control how much magical energy it gives the user. Which would explain how Saber may, or may not, have sustained a universe with it. How Altera was only city level. (Maybe higher to country level.) Then how Giles got rejected.


https://imgur.com/MJCLHxX


More on the topic. "Think of it as a world's rules. It normally doesn't have a form, but Lev Crystallized it into one."


Its unexplained so far how Lev managed to do that.


Other random feats:


https://imgur.com/cJxUwGt


The Holy Grail in Okeanos is capable of shifting the geography.


https://imgur.com/2YHYzVY


An entire city and a fortress was built up with the power of the Holy Grail.


https://imgur.com/xJWu4gr


The Holy Grail is capable of summoning phantasmals, servants, random fodder creatures, even summon Gods as servants.


Fate/Extella The Umbral Star.


How large are these so called "Dimensions?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmHPRHCCEc0 I will direct you to here as the first 5 minutes is all about the multiverse.


https://imgur.com/9x7J7DI


https://imgur.com/EYfhtV0


https://imgur.com/LrUXXtF


https://imgur.com/OY0EUFZ


https://imgur.com/0Bx50W6


https://imgur.com/Tn5nusA


https://imgur.com/3SEFVf6


https://imgur.com/2NrfkkV


https://imgur.com/ZnnkB0x


https://imgur.com/FkW3pG0


Those were just a few scans talking about "Dimensions, and timelines." I would prefer you watch the video as it is a direct live stream that was recorded of the game. If you watch the video you would also understand that each "era" is a seperate universe due to manipulation of verse mechancis. That would be the best way i could describe it.
 
Firstly, yes, we know Singularities are distortion of space-time and history, that's literally the entire purpose of the game, to find these distortions and restore proper human history.

Second, there is no indication under any circumstances that the singularities were merging timelines. These singularities are isolated from the rest of space-time because that's exactly what they are: singularities, irregularities and instabilities in history. Fate/Grand Order itself is a self-contained timeline separate from other Fate works like Fate/stay night.

Not all Divine Spirits are unbound by time. The Greek and Norse myths in which the gods used various means to sustain their youth (i.e. Hercules' labor to retrieve the apples of the Hesperides) are still canon within the Nasuverse. In addition, a gravely weakened Poseidon, a so-called higher-dimensional being, was taken down by a mere human Francis Drake during the Okeanos Singularity.

Nobu's boasting is empty. Yes, she gets a bonus against divinity, but under no circumstances is she strong enough to take on a fully powered Divine Spirit.

Singularities are not nearly large enough or far-reaching enough to provide anywhere near a universal rating, especially since they're distortions of Earth's history, not the universe's history.

Scathach's commentary is just talking about how the incineration of human history was a great feat, it doesn't have anything to do with the Divine Spirits or their power.

I haven't even read through all of this yet and it looks like you're taking a bunch of statements way out of context.
 
No, the Holy Grails are not the Root. The Holy Grails used in the Fuyuki Grail War were an attempt to reach the Root, but they have no connection to the Holy Grails used by Goetia. Akasha is an entirely separate entity and is even given something of a personality through Ryougi Shiki.

As for Extella, it has absolutely no bearing on Fate/Grand Order. It's alternate timeline of Fate/Extra CCC, which in turn is an alternate timeline of Fate/Extra, which is entirely separate from Fate/Grand Order's singularity system.

Grand Order is just one of many timelines in the Nasuverse, and none of these scans would give actual upgrades to anyone in the verse.
 
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