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Eternity Sword Revisions Part 3: Abilities

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Euphoria​


Statistics Amplification- Can boost defenses and attack power (Chapter 5)

Resistance to Power Nullification- Her skills can't be stopped by banish skills (Chapter 5)

Weapon Control and Status Effect Inducement- Can change her sword's form, and lower her opponent's mana (Chapter 5)

Stealth Mastery- Can sneak up on others without them noticing (Chapter 5)

Vibration Manipulation- Can fire shock-waves from her spear (Chapter 7)

Light Manipulation- Can fire light from her spear (Chapter 8)

Absolute Law​


Immortality (Type 2)-Due how powerful her eyes are, she cut off her own head, yet is still alive (Chapter 12)

Fear Manipulation- Her eyes can paralyze others with fear (Chapter 12)

Elemental Manipulation- Can manipulate the elements (Chapter 12) to create powerful attacks

Void Manipulation and Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 1)- It's already accepted on Nozumu's and Yaga's profile what a null being can do, Law and Force, were remade by Null Yaga as null beings (Chapter 12), so they qualify for the same abilities. This will be a new key for them.

Satsuki​


Intangibility- Her sword his a mass of light with no permanent form (Chapter 2)

Social Influencing- Has considerable charisma which lets her have others trust even in dire situations (Chapter 2)

Absorption- Can create an absorption field which turns the force of impact into her strength (Chapter 5)

Weapon Control- Can change her weapon into knives, which seek the enemies most vulnerable spots (Chapter 7)

Void Manipulation and Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 1)- Same as Law, Satsuki is now a being not of this world and can erase anything (Chapter 11)

Statistics Amplification- Can amplify her mana (Chapter 11)

Dimensional Travel- Travelled to other worlds outside the Time Tree (Chapter 12)


Nozumi​


Flight- Her guardian spirit can fly (Chapter 2)

Life Manipulation- The natural power of green mana nurtures life (Chapter 2)

Weapon Control- Her Eternity Sword can change forms (Chapter 2)

Resistance Negation- Can lower her opponents resistances (Chapter 2)

Electricity Manipulation, Water Manipulation and Air Manipulation- Her guardian spirit provides the electricity, gas and water for the school on its back (Chapter 2)

Teleportation- Her guardian spirit can teleport people from its back, to the outside world (Chapter 2)

Light Manipulation- Her guardian spirit can make mini-suns (Chapter 3)

Statistics Amplification- Can boost her allies defenses (Chapter 6)

Supernatural Willpower, and Resistance to Possession- Has a strong will, which allowed her to resist her Nemesis personality from taking her over (Chapter 6)

Size Manipulation- Her guardian spirit can change its size (Chapter 7)

Power Nullification and Statistics Reduction- Can dispel her enemies elemental status effects and reduce their combat mana (Chapter 7)

Limited Law Manipulation- The power of Nemesis is a law created by Et Ca Repha, to destroy the bearer of Apostasy without fail (Chapter 12)

Resurrection- Can give new life to those who have died (Chapter 12)

Narukana​


Cosmic Awareness- Has always been watching Setoki and his friends, ever since they were back in their own world (Chapter 8)

Resistance to Data Manipulation- Unaffected by the massive amounts of data that exist in the Log Sector (Chapter 8)

Stealth Mastery- Can sneak up on others without them noticing (Chapter 8)

Resistance to Extrasensory Perception- Setoki and co couldn't sense any traces of her power (Chapter 8)

Shapeshifting- Can change between human and sword from (Chapter 8)

Dream Manipulation- Can enter the dreams of others (Chapter 8)

Statistics Reduction- Can reduce her target's magic (Chapter 9)

Deconstruction- Can disintegrate others into dust (Chapter 9)

Resistance Negation- Her attacks have the penetrate effect, which has been shown to lower resistances (Chapter 9)

Flight- Can float in the air (Chapter 9)

Supernatural Willpower- Has an unwavering will in the face of any attack (Chapter 9)

Resistance to Analytical Prediction- Despite having access to the Log Sector which has all information in the Time Tree, the Sovereign Gods were unable to predict how strong she was.

Invulnerability- Has a sword which gives her invulnerability (Chapter 9)

Creation- Created Nozumu's and Zetsu's swords, and also the Antibodies, to collect her power (Chapter 11)

Resistance to Void Manipulation- Resisted Yaga's null mana (Chapter 12)


Unstoppable Force​


Sound Manipulation and Deconstruction- Can unleash a violent roar, bolstered by his sword's power, that destroys all without leaving a single speck of dust behind (Chapter 12)

Statistics Amplification- Can boost his elemental affinity and strength (Chapter 12)

Resistance Negation and Statistics Reduction- Can lower resistances and elemental affinities (Chapter 12)

Void Manipulation and Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 1)- Law and Force, were remade by Null Yaga as null beings (Chapter 12), so they qualify for the same abilities. This will be a new key for them.

Fear Manipulation- Its very presence radiates the terror of ruin and destruction (Chapter 12)

Akatsuki​


Light Manipulation- His sword can generate light (Chapter 3)

Cosmic Awareness- His guardian spirit Nanashi was able to detect whether his attack reached the Sephirot, and can also sense dimensional quakes (Chapter 4)

Aura- Can exert invisible pressure on others (Chapter 4)

Stealth Mastery and Forcefield Creation- Can create barriers that conceal whatever is within them (Chapter 4)

Resistance Negation- Can lower the resistance of his target (Chapter 4)

Life Manipulation- Can convert his life energy into mana (Chapter 4)

Flight- Nanashi can fly (Chapter 5)

Explosion Manipulation- Can create explosions (Chapter 6)

Absorption and Power Mimicry- Can absorb lives and take their strength for his own (Chapter 6)

Limited Dimensional Travel- Can travel between worlds, but that power is almost gone (Chapter 6)

Statistics Amplification- Can use black mana to boost speed and senses (Chapter 7)

Sense Manipulation- Nanashi can expand his senses to help him react to and counter attacks that seem impossible for him to detect in time (Chapter 10)





Subaru​


Electricity Manipulation- Can use his arrows as lightning rods to guide lightning strikes from the sky (Chapter 5)

Statistics Amplification, and Healing- Can perform healing, while raising attributes (Chapter 5)

Power Bestowal- Can divide his mana into 2 and give it to others (Chapter 5)

Regeneration (Low)- Can regenerate from cuts on his body (Chapter 5)

Immortality (Type 7)- Subaru is a machine with eternal life (Chapter 5)

Supernatural Willpower- Despite being wounded clashed with Shou with his will (Chapter 5)

Sensory Manipulation- Can sharpen senses making him more aware of physical threats (Chapter 11)



Katima​


Life Manipulation- Can convert her life energy into mana (Chapter 3)

Statistics Reduction and Resistance Negation- Can lower her opponents resistance and magic (Chapter 2)

Damage Transferal and Forcefield Creation- Can create a barrier of darkness that reflects a portion of the damage back at her opponent (Chapter 2)

Social Influencing- Has more charisma than Satsuki, and can motivate entire armies (Chapter 2)

Fear Manipulation- Can invoke terror in her opponents, weakening their guard (Chapter 2)

Stealth Mastery- Can follow others without them noticing (Chapter 2)

Supernatural Willpower- Can keep fighting with serious injuries, with willpower alone (Chapter 2)

Corrosion Inducement- Can create a field of erosion (Chapter 4)

Statistics Amplification- Can use black mana to boost both speed and senses (Chapter 5)

Vibration Manipulation- Can send out massive shockwaves at her target (Chapter 5)

Plant Manipulation- Can launch thorns at her opponent (Chapter 8)

Physics Manipulation- Can create a link to the underworld and twist the laws of physics to protect herself (Chapter 10)

Thalia​


Resistance Negation- Can lower her opponents resistance (Chapter 2)

Electricity Manipulation- Can wrap her weapon in ice and lightning (Chapter 3)

Absorption- Can create an absorption field that turns the force of impact into her strength (Chapter 6)

Ruptuna​


Forcefield Creation- Can use blue mana to create a field which dulls attacks (Chapter 3)

Jatzieta​


Fear Manipulation- Can create a giant fireball that causes fear (Chapter 3)

Healing- Her flames are a comforting healing light for her allies (Chapter 3)

Explosion Manipulation- Redeemer explodes when anyone besides her try to use it (Chapter 3)

Statistics Amplification- Can raise her magic power and resistance (Chapter 3)

Power Nullification- Can disrupt the magic of her attacker, causing damaging feedback (Chapter 7)

Plasma Manipulation- Can incinerate her target using a burning spear of plasma (Chapter 12)

Portal Creation- Can open up rifts in space to another dimension


Salles​


Resistance Negation- His attacks have the penetrate effect (Chapter 4)

Statistics Amplification- Can boost endurance and resistances (Chapter 4)

Explosion Manipulation- Can create explosions (Chapter 5)

Summoning and Statistics Reduction- Can summon wind from another world which reduces the strength of his target (Chapter 5)

Light Manipulation- Can fire rays of light at his target (Chapter 9)

Resistance to Analytical Prediction- The Sovereign Gods couldn't predict his actions (Chapter 9)

Data Manipulation- Got Et Ca Repha's power, and was able to turn others into data (Chapter 12)

Vibration Manipulation- Can cause natural disasters such as earthquakes (Chapter 12)

Soul Manipulation- Gain control over the Log Sector which has all souls which have ever existed (Chapter 12)

Dimensional Travel- Planned on leaving the Time Tree once he finished rebuilding the world (Chapter 12)




Et Ca Repha​


Statistics Amplification- Can boost her attributes and elements (Chapter 12)

Memory Manipulation- Erased Jirol's memories (Chapter 12)

Social Influencing- Her majesty as a god causes others to be awed by her (Chapter 12)

Cosmic Awareness- Naya who gained her power, was able to watch branch worlds

Supernatural Willpower and Immortality (Type 5)? Even after she was killed, a fragment of her will survived (Chapter 12)

Resistance to Resistance Negation- All elements owe their power to her and thus can't harm her (Chapter 12). Thus she has this resistance as users of the darkness element can lower resistances.

Statistic Reduction and Resistance Negation- Her attacks have the penetrate effect, and can lower her opponent's mana (Chapter 12)

Many More...- All power that exist within the Time Tree falls under her control, so whatever abilities the others have, she does too, but to list all will take up too much space

Nozumu​


Instinctive Action- Can react to things on pure reflex (Chapter 1)

Power Bestowal- Can give half his mana to others (Chapter 2)

Force-field Creation- Can create barriers (Chapter 2)

Statistics Amplification- Can boost resistances and attack power (Chapter 2)

Weapon Mastery- Nozumu got skilled at using his sword (Chapter 3)

Vibration Manipulation- Can attack his target with shockwaves (Chapter 4)

Madness Manipulation and Unconventional Resistance to Power Absorption- Nozumu's power reacts to him causing anyone who is in possession of it, to go insane (Chapter 5)

Time Manipulation- Apostasy has the ability to control time itself (Chapter 5)

Sealing- Apostasy can seal off worlds preventing others from escaping them (Chapter 5)

Resistance Negation and Statistics Reduction- Name Breaker can reduce his enemies mana, and has the penetrate effect (Chapter 5)

Resistance to Data Manipulation/Information Manipulation- Can endure being inside the Log Sector which has a lot of information (Chapter 7). I posted this in the Narukana section that the Log Sector has a massive amount of data, here it says information, so seems to be interchangeable, both resistances i guess then.

Curse Manipulation- Cursed the Southern Gods with having no physical form (Chapter 10)

Aura and Fear Manipulation- His presence alone can cause intense fear (Chapter 11)

Law Manipulation- Apostasy has the power to break all laws (Chapter 11). It destroys Orichalchum Names which are the system upon which the entire Time Tree is built on (Chapter 12)

Dimensional Travel- Can travel between worlds (Chapter 11)

Light Manipulation- Can fire light at his target (Chapter 11)

Resistance to Soul Manipulation- Isbel couldn't take over his soul (Chapter 11)

Supernatural Willpower- Doesn't even care when he gets injured, due to his unquenchable thirst for destruction (Chapter 11)

Flight- Can fly (Chapter 11)

Accelerated Development (Battle; Physical Statistics)- The more people he kills, the stronger he gets (Prologue)

Causality Manipulation- Gained Et Ca Repha's power and then used it to rewrite the history of the God's recorded in the Time Tree, making it nonexistent (Chapter 12). Obviously this scales to Et Ca Repha too

Absorption- Can absorb damage and convert a portion into HP (Chapter 12)

Explosion Manipulation- Can fire explosive aura photons at his opponent (Chapter 12)

Yaga​


Aura- Has an aura of something that is inhuman (Chapter 11)

Soul Manipulation- When she devours someone, she also devours their soul (Chapter 11)

Stealth Mastery- Can skillfully conceal herself (Chapter 11)

Power Absorption, Existence Erasure, Time Manipulation, Sealing, Madness Manipulation and Unconventional Resistance to Power Absorption- Absorbed Nozumu's Apostasy, gaining its abilities (Chapter 12)

Paralysis Inducement- Caused Nozumu and his party to be rooted to their spot (Chapter 12)

Statistics Reduction- Can reduce her enemies mana and mana charge (Chapter 12)

Energy Manipulation- Can blast her target's with energy (Chapter 12)

Flight- Can float in the air (Chapter 12)

Fire and Ice Manipulation- Can transform her mana into flame and ice which she throws at her target (Chapter 12)

Creation- Created Null Minions, and recreated Absolute Law and Unstoppable Force (Chapter 12)

Resistance Negation- Her attacks have the penetrate effect (Chapter 12)

Supernatural Willpower- Resisted the power of the world through sheer will (Chapter 12)

Tokimi​


New Key: Tired at this point so not gonna go into too much detail, but it boils down to this Tokimi appears in the first game and its sequel, however one particular thing makes their power scaling vastly different. In the original game Eternal's are limited by how much mana is within the world they are in, the second game, makes no mention of this despite having Euphoria, an Eternal, traveling around with the main cast.

So Tokimi needs a key for her for both games, only difference is the tiering, her first key called "Aselia the Eternal", will scale like this profile, the 2nd key remains as it was before. So here are the abilities Tokimi showed in the first game that need to be added:

Aura and Fear Manipulation- Her sword has an overwhelming presence which causes fear (Aselia, the Eternal, Prologue)

Purification- Can perform purification's to ward off evil (Aselia, the Eternal, Prologue)

Spatial Manipulation- Can cut through space (Aselia, the Eternal, Prologue)

Weather Manipulation and Fire Manipulation- Can change the weather and manipulate fire (Aselia, the Eternal, Chapter 3)

Sealing- Her clan dispatches its members all over the country to seal demons (Aselia, the Eternal, Chapter 3)

Cosmic Awareness- Watched Yuuto who was in another world from the very beginning (Aselia, the Eternal, Chapter 4)

Memory Manipulation- Can sealed away memories (Aselia, the Eternal, Chapter 4)

Telepathy- Can send images to the minds of others (Aselia, the Eternal, Chapter 4)

Time Travel- Traveled back a month into the past (Aselia, the Eternal, Chapter 5)

Resistance Negation- Can lower her enemies resistance with every slash of her sword (Aselia, the Eternal, Chapter 5)


General Additions/Removals​

Eternity Sword Users​


Weapon Creation- Eternity Sword Users can create their weapons out of thin air (Chapter 1)

Telepathy- Eternity Sword Users can telepathically communicate with their guardian spirits (Chapter 1)

Invisibility- Guardian spirits can go invisible (Chapter 1)

Resistance to Power Nullification for Black Users- Black uses are immune to Blue users banish skills (Chapter 2)

Resistance to Power Nullification for White Users- White users are immune to Blue users banish skills (Chapter 2)

Extrasensory Perception- Eternity Sword Users can sense the presence of others (Chapter 2)

Unconventional Resistance to Power Absorption- To use an Eternity Sword requires an Orihalchum name which is engrave on the soul (Chapter 2)

Accelerated Development (Battle and Passive; Physical Statistics and Abilities)- Gods get stronger through battle (Chapter 2). They also get stronger over time, increasing not only their strength and magic, but also other attributes (Chapter 2)

Enhanced Power Nullification for Water Users- They all have a skill, which nullifies attempts to nullify their skills (Chapter 3)

Multiple Selves (Type 2)- Eternity Sword User's past selves are still inside them, and can awake and take over their reincarnation's body (Chapter 8). They are stated to dwell within the soul (Chapter 9)

Inorganic Physiology (Type 1)- The bodies of Eternity Sword Users are made of mana (Chapter 10). Mana is the main element of life (Chapter 2)

Resistance to Fear Manipulation- Satsuki broke free of Unstoppable Force's fear aura (Chapter 12). This applies to everyone cause the ability is passive, and all Nozumu's party helped defeat Force

Supernatural Willpower and Resistance to Void Manipulation- Resisted Yaga's null mana through sheer will power (Chapter 12)

Resistance to Sound Manipulation and Deconstruction- Was unaffected by Unstoppable Force's roar, which as i posted in its section, destroys all without leaving a speck of dust (Chapter 12)




Null Beings​


Resistance to Temperature Manipulation and Pain Manipulation- Null beings can't feel temperature nor pain (Chapter 10)

Fear Manipulation- The mere sight of them evokes a primal terror in those that see them (Chapter 12)

Immortality (Type 7)- Null beings aren't alive (Chapter 12)

Resistance to Law Manipulation- Null beings are in opposition to the laws of the universe (Chapter 12)

Root Beings​


Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1)- While thinking about it, it occurred to me that Root Beings might qualify, as far as i understand the current definition for type 1 isn't what it was before where it was about transcendence necessarily, now you just need to prove the concepts are outside/disjointed from what they govern. So Root Beings like Law and Force are the embodiment of concepts (Chapter 12) in the Time Tree such as law and destruction. They also literally attack using those concepts. Root Beings are called such cause they exist in the Root, obvious, and the Root is the root of all things, outside time itself, and completely disconnected from the Time Tree.

If accepted, would scale to Force and Law, and seeing as Et Ca Repha created them and has control over all power that exists, her too, and by extension everyone who gained her authority after they killed her ie Nozumu, Naya etc, and finally Yaga since she recreated Force and Law.

Eternals​


Memory Manipulation- Eternal's exist nowhere but as themselves, thus can't remain within people's memories (Epilogue)

The next set of abilities are from the first game, long story short Eternal's are like a powerful Etranger, thus Eternal's will scale to the general stuff from the first game:

Weapon Mastery- Eternity Sword Users naturally understand(Aselia the Eternal, Chapter 1) how to use their weapons as if they had been using them for a long time)

Absorption- Eternity Swords can absorb mana (Aselia the Eternal, Chapter ), which is life energy itself

Limited Reality Warping- Eternity Swords as powerful as Desire can grant wishes (Aselia the Eternal, Prologue) in exchange for something of equal value)

Resistance to Sealing- Etranger's skills can't be sealed by the banish skill of blue spirits (Aselia the Eternal, Chapter 1)

Weapon Control- Has greater control over aura photons than Etrangers who can lengthen the size of their sword (Aselia the Eternal, Chapter 3)

Explosion Manipulation- Superior to Etrangers who can control aura photons to cause explosions (Aselia the Eternal, Chapter 4)

Regeneration (High-Low)- Eternals will recover as long as they aren't critically wounded (Aselia the Eternal, Chapter 5)

Energy Manipulation- Eternals can shave away at others mental energy merely by being close to them (Aselia the Eternal, Chapter 5)

Supernatural Willpower and Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Body Puppetry and Soul Manipulation- Eternals are perpetual existences with unwavering will (Aselia the Eternal, Chapter 4), thus scale above Yuuto who resisted Desire's attempts to take over his mind, body and soul, with willpower.

Resistance to Life Manipulation- Had Shun succeeded in absorbing Rebirth, all mana would have disappeared (Aselia the Eternal, Chapter 5) along with everything else, except Eternals

Resistance to Causality Manipulation, and Memory Manipulation- Eternal's are able to remember those who became Eternal's, having all memories of them erased, and history rewritten so that they never existed. Though on second thought Eternal's being acausal, would make sense that once you become once you would remember events that were changed in history, so causality resistance probably shouldn't apply, memory resistance should though.

Remove Abstract Existence​

To qualify for abstract existence, they would have to exist only as a concept, which is not the case, they do still have a "physical" body, it's just made of mana, it's just their souls that's conceptual.

So in short if something could affect the soul, it would be concept manipulation. The cosmology of Seinarukana and Aselia, are different ie in Seinarukana only Gods can use Eternity Swords, in Aselia, only spirits can, i think clearly Phantasmorgora isn't within the Time Tree, but a universe nearby outside it, otherwise a lot doesn't make sense, so we can't really scale spirits to gods, however Eternals exist in both, and characters like Yuuto have soul resistance. So i think we can scale things like this:

-Eternal's souls are conceptual, thus anyone who can attack it has concept manipulation, only one i can think of who has shown to affect an Eternal's soul is Yaga.

-Aselia characters who resist soul hax, get resistance to concept hax, and also Eternal's as well, though they already have concept resistance due to being able to fight Law and Force whose abilities, which are conceptual, are passive.
 
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I think it is still okay to use AE 2.
Anyways, as one of the only two supporters of this verse, I agreed with the OP.
 
For AE2, they would have to be able to regenerate as long as the abstraction exists, in this case, soul, so don't qualify there either.
 
Where did you get that from?

In Seinarukana you need an Orichalchum Name, which is engrave on the soul, to use it, and the user uses life force to give the sword form basically.

In Aselia only spirits and Etrangers can use them, with the swords being connected to their user's mind and soul, but again idk where you get that the swords themselves are abstract from?

Spirits have natural regen which lets them recover over time from wounds, Eternals regenerate from anything which isn't fatal, but again idk where you're getting that they are regenerating from some conceptual thing from.
 
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If you are talking about the whole thing about them not knowing death as long as they hold on to their sword or whatever, that's type 8 immortality, but you again need to prove the sword itself is some conceptual thing with no physical form, for them to have AE2.
 
If you are talking about the whole thing about them not knowing death as long as they hold on to their sword or whatever, that's type 8 immortality, but you again need to prove the sword itself is some conceptual thing with no physical form, for them to have AE2.
I see.
 
To qualify for abstract existence, they would have to exist only as a concept, which is not the case, they do still have a "physical" body, it's just made of mana, it's just their souls that's conceptual.
Isnt that will give them AE type 2?

And just write AE type 1 only for the soul, yeah like what MGF do with the "root", just the "root" that abstract the person still have physical body
 
They can't regenerate from their souls though, they can be resurrected when they die via resurrection magic, but that's something someone else has to do for them, so idk about AE type 2.

AE type 1 for the soul is ok then i guess since we do it for other verses.
 
AE for their souls can work like said above.
Void Manipulation and Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 1)- It's already accepted on Nozumu's and Yaga's profile what a null being can do, Law and Force, were remade by Null Yaga as null beings (Chapter 12), so they qualify for the same abilities. This will be a new key for them.
Immortality Type 5, for nonexistence, can happen.
5: Deathless Immortality: Characters who exist unbound by conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed. Typically, abilities such as Existence Erasure are needed to destroy them.

Since the souls are concept, wouldn't it mean that there is also aspect type 2, or is some form of exception?
Immortality (Type 7)- Null beings aren't alive (Chapter 12)
Personally, I think this point is closer to Immortality type 5 evidence from nonexistence. Immortality type 5 and 7 seem mutually exclusive.

I think everything else is fine.
 
Forgot about type 5 immortality, but yea null beings should have it, and them not being alive could be taken as proof of that.

Anyway that's two staff, gonna wait the standard 48 hours and see if anyone else pops up, if not then apply this.
 
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Since the souls are concept, wouldn't it mean that there is also aspect type 2, or is some form of exception?
Now that you mention it yes, an Eternal's soul is conceptual, but a Null Eternal's body and soul are completly null, nothingness, so yes they should get aspect type 2.
 
One more thing, since the cast can affect Null Minions ie like here where its said they repelled their attacks , they should get NPI.
 
I don't usually care for the obscure powers like Transduality and BDE, but i just ran across BDE, and it occurred to me, Eternal's might qualify.

Looking at the definition for type 1:

"Type 1: Characters whose nature is defined by lacking spatiotemporal features without necessarily being superior to any of them. As a result they aren't limited to existing within spatiotemporal realms and are often unaffected by Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation or can at least defend against it by leaving spacetime at will. They are usually Acausal (Type 1) as a result of being outside of regular time. "

So basically they just have to be outside regular time, well i think this fits:

Eternal's are freed from the time axis (Aselia, Chapter 4) they were born in, hence why they are called perpetual existences, also again stated to be freed from the constraints of time (Aselia, Chapter 4). In addition Yuuto and co became Eternal's by getting their Eternity Swords to accept them, and those swords existed outside space and time itself (Aselia, Chapter 5).

We also know from Seinarukana, Eternal's exist nowhere (Seinarukana, Chapter 12) but as themselves


When Nozumu became an Eternal, and then left the Time Tree, everyone would forget about him, because Eternal's carry themselves within themselves (Seinarukana, Chapter 12)

It is also said that becoming an Eternal, means becoming everlasting and never changing, all your possibilities converge in one, and you become an incarnation which is purely yourself (Seinarukana, Chapter 12)

In short Eternal's don't exist within the space-time they were born in, and don't exist anywhere but as themselves, i think they qualify. I could also go into how Unstoppable Force, and Absolute Law, who are Eternal's, are Root Beings, meaning they exist within the root which is completely separate from the multiverse and it's time, but i think what i showed already is enough.

However going with that angle, just had another thought, Et Ca Repha is said to stand above the Time Tree; her sword is the becon of light which stands above the Time Tree

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So would she qualify for BDE type 2? @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus

Also again from Aselia, we learned the place people like Yuuto go to get a contract with an Eternity Sword, transcends space and time (Aselia, Chapter 5). Laying all that out, think i am pretty convinced.
 
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Also this might be a stretch, but looking at another obscure ability NEP, nature type 2 specifically says that "Characters of this type have to behave at least as nonexistent as those with Material Nonexistence, but might display even further showings such as preceding or opposing existence"

Null mana literally opposes mana, they are on the opposite ends of the spectrum and mana is the main element of life, and the Time Tree came from Et Ca Repha's mana.

Nozumu as a Null Eternal was stated to be a threat to all mana lifeforms everywhere, and Null Yaga would have infected everything with null if not stalled by Nozumu's party.
 
Also this might be a stretch, but looking at another obscure ability NEP, nature type 2 specifically says that "Characters of this type have to behave at least as nonexistent as those with Material Nonexistence, but might display even further showings such as preceding or opposing existence"

Null mana literally opposes mana, they are on the opposite ends of the spectrum and mana is the main element of life, and the Time Tree came from Et Ca Repha's mana.

Nozumu as a Null Eternal was stated to be a threat to all mana lifeforms everywhere, and Null Yaga would have infected everything with null if not stalled by Nozumu's party.
It looks like NEP 1

But if there are some nonexistence being that lack even the null mana, i think it possibly for get nature type 2
 
@Fixxed There isn't any being like that. Mana forms existence, and null mana is the opposite, it's also called negative mana.

What do you think about BDE though?

Side note, i just noticed it was stated in chapter 10, that eventually even Satsuki's body and soul will be null, and that's how Yaga became a Null Eternal, by eating null, with her body and soul becoming null, so clearly null is conceptual seeing as it affects an Eternal's soul which is conceptual, some above baseline hax is here, just have to figure out that scaling later.
 
@Fixxed There isn't any being like that. Mana forms existence, and null mana is the opposite, it's also called negative mana.
I dont think it can be NEP 2, because null mana is still conventional nothingness. Yeah also the fact that it opposite the mana (existence), make null mana is part of dual system (existence-nonexistence), and in other hand NEP 2 is transdual but their state of being is nonexistence

What do you think about BDE though?
In short Eternal's don't exist within the space-time they were born in, and don't exist anywhere but as themselves, i think they qualify.
Yeah if they lack of space and time it can be type 1, and i think it also acausality 2
However going with that angle, just had another thought, Et Ca Repha is said to stand above the Time Tree; her sword is the becon of light which stands above the Time Tree
And if she above it to the level of immunity (like lack of time and space), yeah lack of+above time and space can work too i think, it can be type 2
 
Ok, NEP type 2 was a long shot anyway, lets see if the staff agree there.

Never thought of type 2 acausality, but yea it fits, as they don't exist anywhere but as themselves. So Acausality type 1, 2, and 4, it looks like, seeing as they are outside of space-time, don't exist anywhere but as themselves, while also transcending space-time, and BDE type 2 as well since they both lack space-time, and also transcend it.

They are also said to be unchanging, but type 5 acausality would be a massive stretch since people can affect them.
 
Ok, NEP type 2 was a long shot anyway, lets see if the staff agree there.

Never thought of type 2 acausality, but yea it fits, as they don't exist anywhere but as themselves. So Acausality type 1, 2, and 4, it looks like, seeing as they are outside of space-time, don't exist anywhere but as themselves, while also transcending space-time, and BDE type 2 as well since they both lack space-time, and also transcend it.

They are also said to be unchanging, but type 5 acausality would be a massive stretch since people can affect them.
Aca 1, 2 and 4 sound logical. While 5 can in theory qualifies.
NEP 1 is a certainty while NEP 2... I dunno.
 
Alright, lets wrap this up, i will summarize what we just discussed for the final staff approval:

Eternal's are freed from the time axis (Aselia, Chapter 4) they were born in, hence why they are called perpetual existences, also again stated to be freed from the constraints of time (Aselia, Chapter 4). In addition Yuuto and co became Eternal's by getting their Eternity Swords to accept them, and those swords existed outside space and time itself (Aselia, Chapter 5).

We also know from Seinarukana, Eternal's exist nowhere (Seinarukana, Chapter 12) but as themselves


When Nozumu became an Eternal, and then left the Time Tree, everyone would forget about him, because Eternal's carry themselves within themselves (Seinarukana, Chapter 12)

It is also said that becoming an Eternal, means becoming everlasting and never changing, all your possibilities converge in one, and you become an incarnation which is purely yourself (Seinarukana, Chapter 12)

Unstoppable Force, and Absolute Law, who are Eternal's, are Root Beings, they exist within the root which is completely separate from the multiverse and it's time, and Et Ca Repha is said to be the becon of light which stands above the Time Tree

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Also again from Aselia, we learned the place people like Yuuto go to get a contract with an Eternity Sword, transcends space and time (Aselia, Chapter 5).

For all these reasons Eternal's should BDE type 2, and acausality types 1, 2, and 4 @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @ByAsura
 
Alright, lets wrap this up, i will summarize what we just discussed for the final staff approval:

Eternal's are freed from the time axis (Aselia, Chapter 4) they were born in, hence why they are called perpetual existences, also again stated to be freed from the constraints of time (Aselia, Chapter 4). In addition Yuuto and co became Eternal's by getting their Eternity Swords to accept them, and those swords existed outside space and time itself (Aselia, Chapter 5).

We also know from Seinarukana, Eternal's exist nowhere (Seinarukana, Chapter 12) but as themselves


When Nozumu became an Eternal, and then left the Time Tree, everyone would forget about him, because Eternal's carry themselves within themselves (Seinarukana, Chapter 12)

It is also said that becoming an Eternal, means becoming everlasting and never changing, all your possibilities converge in one, and you become an incarnation which is purely yourself (Seinarukana, Chapter 12)

Unstoppable Force, and Absolute Law, who are Eternal's, are Root Beings, they exist within the root which is completely separate from the multiverse and it's time, and Et Ca Repha is said to be the becon of light which stands above the Time Tree

f29c60fc0b87742566da8a48965a047e.png


Also again from Aselia, we learned the place people like Yuuto go to get a contract with an Eternity Sword, transcends space and time (Aselia, Chapter 5).

For all these reasons Eternal's should BDE type 2, and acausality types 1, 2, and 4 @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @ByAsura
Yes, this all looks good to me.
 
Alright, lets wrap this up, i will summarize what we just discussed for the final staff approval:

Eternal's are freed from the time axis (Aselia, Chapter 4) they were born in, hence why they are called perpetual existences, also again stated to be freed from the constraints of time (Aselia, Chapter 4). In addition Yuuto and co became Eternal's by getting their Eternity Swords to accept them, and those swords existed outside space and time itself (Aselia, Chapter 5).

We also know from Seinarukana, Eternal's exist nowhere (Seinarukana, Chapter 12) but as themselves


When Nozumu became an Eternal, and then left the Time Tree, everyone would forget about him, because Eternal's carry themselves within themselves (Seinarukana, Chapter 12)

It is also said that becoming an Eternal, means becoming everlasting and never changing, all your possibilities converge in one, and you become an incarnation which is purely yourself (Seinarukana, Chapter 12)

Unstoppable Force, and Absolute Law, who are Eternal's, are Root Beings, they exist within the root which is completely separate from the multiverse and it's time, and Et Ca Repha is said to be the becon of light which stands above the Time Tree

f29c60fc0b87742566da8a48965a047e.png


Also again from Aselia, we learned the place people like Yuuto go to get a contract with an Eternity Sword, transcends space and time (Aselia, Chapter 5).

For all these reasons Eternal's should BDE type 2, and acausality types 1, 2, and 4 @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @ByAsura
The updates seem fine.
 
IDK if this interrupts but I think Null'x existences should also have aspect type 5 of NEP, due to the plethora pieces of evidence of Eternals being unbound by time, space (which is related to fate/causality, which gets support by the fact that they no longer possess causal possibilities, and that they are oppositions of the fundamental laws of cosmos) and stuff.

In short, Null Eternals should also be granted aspect type 5 of space-time structure, possibilities, and laws.
 
No, this is going to take a while, only updated Euphoria, and even then there is one more thing to add.

When going through things i see minor stuff to add or change here and there that i didn't before.

Can't just snap my fingers and 80 hours of content, well 130+ with both games, appears on the profiles, i also got to add techniques too.
 
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No, this is going to take a while, only updated Euphoria, and even then there is one more thing to add.

When going through things i see minor stuff to add or change here and there that i didn't before.

Can't just snap my fingers and 80 hours of content, well 130+ with both games, appears on the profiles, i also got to add techniques too.
Very nice then.
I'm working on Nozumu profile
What do you think?
 
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