Dr. Eggman vs Bowser

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Eggboi faces Bowser

Bowser is High 4-C,

Eggman gets prep time (can only use inventions up to 4-B),

Speed is =

The battle takes place on Yoshi's island



The Eggman: 7

King Koopa:

Inconclusive:

 

[Christian_Higdon]

A bit of a tough one. Leaning towards Bowser due to turning him into a brick, but I may be wrong.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Eggman has transfiguration abilities as well

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Yeah, but does he use it to begin with? If not, Bowser wins.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Roboticization is one of his signature gimmicks.

How many times has Bowser resorted to turning his enemies into bricks, anyhow?

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Bloodlusted characters'll resort to the best tactics to win to begin. He's doing it here.

It isn't too much of a stomp, but Bowser freezes him to begin.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Frick. Removed bloodlust.

It should be noted that since Eggman will be riding in his Death Egg ship he'll be able to block out Transmutation.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

This isn't too fair, then. At least, I think so.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Why not?

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Ahem....lemme explain.

Can Bowser even hit Eggman?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

How the **** did I forget to equalize speed?

 

[Christian_Higdon]

I mean, I meant it by...

Eggboi's in the ship, so Bowser can't really hit him easily. Unless he grows in size, which he will, but I dunno if he can hurt Eggman.

Bloodlusted Bowser only was fair IMO.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

He can just teleport into the Death Egg. Or blow it up.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

True. He can go in there. Bowser may actually win if he blows it up. He likely can in a matter of seconds. Before Eggman transmutates him.

Bowser explodes the ship.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Eggman has some other decent things like Power Absorption, BFR, Type 6 Immortality, Time Stop, Planetary Roboticization, and even has some nuclear warheads. You should read his profile (specifically the "Powers and Abilities and "Notable Attacks/Techniques" sections) to check out everything he has at his disposal:

Dr. Ivo Robotnik (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave)

 

[Christian_Higdon]

I'll hold off, but for now, Bowser takes my vote.

 

[ShakeResounding]

I think Eggman can take this.

Bowser would have no way of coming back from BFR, which is as simple as Eggman shooting him with a beam from a glove. Even if Bowser destroys the Death Egg, Type 6 Immortality will only have it as an inconvenience. Mind controlling waves from the Psionic Emitters also say hello, to which Bowser has no resistance to. The Time Immobilizer will also be a detriment towards Bowser.

Eggman takes this via sheer versatility and Type 6 Immortality if things go south.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

True. Sadly, Eggman beats Bowser FRA.

I'm starting to hate half of fiction RN.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Egg beats Turtle FRA

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Eggman FRA.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I know nothing about this Eggman, so there's likely several counters, but what's stopping Bowser from teleporting to him and just tapping? Bowser's the vastly superior fighter in every sense of the word.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Eggman's mechas, robot bodies, and forcefields all have 4-B dura. Plus he can come back via his Type 6.


Also can I have some feats to indicate Bowser's combat prowess is superior?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Eggman...not having any?

 

[HST_Master]

>Can use inventions up to 4-B

>Has prep

>Has a invention specifically made to stomp a 4-B (Sonic)

Eggman hops into the Egg Beater and Taps. Or sends him to the Egg Grapes.

 

[Superweeb2987]

Eggman's mechas, robot bodies, and forcefields all have 4-B dura. Plus he can come back via his Type 6.
Also can I have some feats to indicate Bowser's combat prowess is superior?

lol dude if Bowser and Eggman were in a fight and Eggman had no machines, Bowser would ******* destroy Eggman even with stats equalized. Bowser actually fights hand-to-hand. Eggman never does that.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Hm? Not fighting hand-to-hand/without inventions doesn't indicate a lack of combat skills.

"Calculating and deceptive, Robotnik was able to successfully win the Great War, overthrow the Kingdom of Acorn, and rule for over a decade. During his reign, Robotnik masterminded numerous schemes to undermine the Freedom Fighters." - Eggman's intellect section

Plus Robotnik has fought Sonic in close corners combat, who is listed as "Combat/Tactical Genius"

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Bowser definitely does start with Transmutation several times in-character, or something similar/sufficient. At the beginning of SMB, he transmuted all of the Toads to bricks, invisible blocks, or horsetail plants. He's done this on some other occasions, like turning a bunch of random people in Puzzles and Dragons to bricks, like Paratroopas into the red bricks. He transmutes Koopas to toads in Mario Party 2. He has started with Sealing before, too, such as when he stole the Star Rod and rewrote the whole story and then sealed the Star Spirits away, or when he used the Power Stars to seal away the Toads.

As for Bowser's intelligence, he has a lot of good intelligence feats, as well. He made a space station that functions properly near the Su, he also builds mechs, built several dark matter plants, and he made technology that threatened to destroy the fabric of the universe and was going to bend the forces of the cycle of life, birth, death, rebirth, as well as change to his will. As for combat prowess, he should be somewhat relative to Mario, who has like hundreds of years of combat experience fighting many people with over a thousand to millions/billions of years of combat experience, and he's also done over a million battles against Mario.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

As for Bowser's intelligence, he has a lot of good intelligence feats, as well. He made a space station that functions properly near the Su, he also builds mechs, built several dark matter plants, and he made technology that threatened to destroy the fabric of the universe and was going to bend the forces of the cycle of life, birth, death, rebirth, as well as change to his will. As for combat prowess, he should be somewhat relative to Mario, who has like hundreds of years of combat experience fighting many people with over a thousand to millions/billions of years of combat experience, and he's also done over a million battles against Mario.

Is there anything to indicate Bowser built all that stuff himself? Also, you should source Mario/Bowser fighting in millions of battles, personally having 100s of years of combat experience, and fighting peeps with billions of years of combat experience.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Here is the million battles thing. Mario has experienced four Star Festivals, which only occur once every one hundred years, and Dimentio was alive near the beginning of the universe.

And nothing suggests he had much help, but even if you assume he did, he's notoriously intelligent throughout his kingdom, as he apparently has an IQ of "9800".

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I don't see anything supporting the millions of battles thing in the first link. Also, living really long doesn't mean much unless they spent the entirety (or a majority) of that time fighting.

Sonic (who Robotnik scales to in terms of combat skill) has beat Emerl, who has over 4,000 years of combat experience and Dark Gaia, who has participated in battles that have lasted for centuries.

Being stated to have an IQ of 9800 (which most likely comes from boasting or hyperbole) doesn't mean anything unless he has the feats to back it up.

Also, if nothing suggests he built those things in the first place, then it shouldn't be assumed he did.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I meant to post this one for the million battles things. And yeah, I'm the same scene where Bowser was said to have an IQ of 9800, he created life by mixing a bunch of chemicals together. And there are implications that Bowser made those things in the links given. And even if you say Dimentio doesn't have billions of years of combat experience despite being that old, Antasma and Zeekeeper fought against each other in war for millions of years, and Mario fought him.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

"After Mario trounced Bowser for the millionth time" sounds like a figure of speech. Similar to the saying "I've told you a million times" in order to convey repetition.

Artificially producing life isn't wildly more impressive Eggman's accomplishments.

I didn't see any implications that Bowser created that stuff. Just because it's referred to as "Bowser's so and so" doesn't mean that he built that stuff from scratch. All that conveys is that he owns that stuff.

I've like a link to confirm that Antasma and the Zeekeeper warred for millions for years straight.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bump

 

[MYHERO]

Egg FRA

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

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[MYHERO]

,

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bump

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Final bump

 

[MYHERO]

can I vote twice?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

frick