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Downplay the Character

Jiren is High 2-A because he transcended time and space.

Dragon Ball Z is effortlessly 3-A because even Raditz has stated that he's the "strongest in the universe." and the claim is casually tossed around like it was nothing with little to no emphasis whatsoever indicating that universe busting isn't even a small grain special in the slightest.

woops i really need a non-downplay thread
 
goku can't survive in space and can't even survive the heat from the earths core....

how the **** is he universal?

he should atleast be planetary since the size of a kamehameha is quite small and could just barely bust a planet.

his durability is shit.

who gives a **** if your on guard to tank hits, if your off guard and can't take a hit from a lazer or bullet that means you are just ******* weak as ******* ****.

also he's not ftl since he still has to use instant transmission which is only light speed.

also beerus stated he destroyed galaxies, nothing about universes or anything about an entire universe at all so he needs to be downgraded to multi galaxy level with planet level durability since goku can hurt him.

goku ssj4 is clearly better, he stated in xenoverse that not even a 6000 degree heat can hurt him....

everyone should be below gt goku.
 
also he's not ftl since he still has to use instant transmission which is only light speed.
also beerus stated he destroyed galaxies, nothing about universes or anything about an entire universe at all so he needs to be downgraded to multi galaxy level with planet level durability since goku hurt hurt him.

Instant Transmission is at best as fast as sound.

Beerus was only said to be able to destroy a star, yet we only see him destroying planets.
 
"Casey Jones is like, normal. He can't be a Superhuman".

Said "like normal kid" survives getting hit by mutants capable of making cars explode with their punches and survive getting thrown through walls, crates and hits from building sized monsters. Not to mention the fact that he straight up fights faster ten the eye can see, or him smacking around Ho Chan, who with just a small snippet of is power when he was weakened was capable of making a Low 7-C - 7-A storm.

Totally normal.
 
"Time Baby and Bill Cipher should be downgraded to 10-C for being a infant and a triangle-shaped chip respectively."

"Dipper and Mabel should be downgraded to 11-C because they find it impossible to defeat a dorito that's likely holding back a infinite+ amount of power."

"Monarch of Pointland > Dipper and Mabel."
 
Champa was hurt by a table. Wrestling stars defeat tables. Referees have total dominion over wrestling stars. A referee was defeated by the president of the us. Said president needed a child to mow his lawn. Child could be defeated by mosquitos and needed constant medical attention. Therefore champa is low 12-c
 
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