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Dovahkiin Downgrade
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They were fighting for days so it didn't took a few hits.Although i agree with you that they weren't emitting energy continiously the KE of the island at any given time is closer to the real value than the total work.
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I don't really think there's any issue with what we've currently got the Dovahkiin at. Besides, even if you downgraded this there's still a good few Island or so feats to fall back on, plus apparently, if I'm not misinformed, there's actually even more feats we don't currently count that we should, ones that would in fact buff the guy.
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I would like to know which feats you are talking about.
Yeah, the Last Dragonborn is a pretty ambiguous character who doesnt necessarily have any officially confirmed feats( the journey for every hero in the Elder Scrolls series is left up to the interpretation of the player) In game books only describe the character's most known acomplishment( which essentially means the main quest/prophecy), they dont explicitly state how the hero completed said prophecy for the most part.
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I don't happen to have them on hand, but apparently they got the go-ahead from a really strict person over on the NarutoForums/OBD side of things. I'd contact ClassicGameGuys and ask around, but I'm not really able to at the moment.
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Also, reaction speed should be downgraded. Dovakiin's current reaction time is based on the conclusion that the arrows from Auriel's bow make it into "outer space" (or at least past the clouds) within the timeframe, making them 50,000 m/s (or 3500 m/s), which would be Mach 147.06 (or Mach 10.3). However, this is reliant on the assumption that the world in TES is the same as the real world.
...But this assumption is incorrect.
"The planets are the gods and the planes of the gods, which is the same thing. That they appear as spherical heavenly bodies is a visual phenomena caused by mortal mental stress. Since each plane(t) is an infinite mass of infinite size, as yet surrounded by the Void of Oblivion, the mortal eye registers them as bubbles within a space. Planets are magical and impossible. The eight planets correspond to the Eight Divines. They are all present on the Dwarven Orrery, along with the mortal planet, Nirn."
"The sky is another visual phenomenon caused by mortal mental stress, the night sky in particular. The sky is as impossible as planets; in essence, when you look into the sky, 'you look outside the material plane'. At night, Nirn is surrounded by Oblivion. The day sky is the multicolored elemental cloak of Magnus the sun. It changes colors as elemental influences rise and fall. Thus, when one looks at the day sky, they see into the raiments of Aetherius, and stare at magic."
"Space is the interpretation of Oblivio, which is black and empty and surrounds the mortal plane. Space is infinite, but it acts just like a planet, in that Oblivion is 'surrounded' by Aetherius. You can see Aetherius by the stars."
"Magnus is the sun, the largest hole in Oblivio, and the gateway to magic. Magnus was present at the creation of the mortal plane, and, in fact, was its architect (Lorkhan was its advocate and inspiration). Prehistoric (before ME2500, startyear) Nirn was a magical place, and highly unstable to the first mortals. Magnus then left, some say in disgust, and Oblivion filled in the void with the Void. His escape was not easy, and tatters of Magnus remain in the firmament as stars."
TL;DR "shooting the sun" with Auriel's bow is an impossible feat to calculate.
...But this assumption is incorrect.
"The planets are the gods and the planes of the gods, which is the same thing. That they appear as spherical heavenly bodies is a visual phenomena caused by mortal mental stress. Since each plane(t) is an infinite mass of infinite size, as yet surrounded by the Void of Oblivion, the mortal eye registers them as bubbles within a space. Planets are magical and impossible. The eight planets correspond to the Eight Divines. They are all present on the Dwarven Orrery, along with the mortal planet, Nirn."
"The sky is another visual phenomenon caused by mortal mental stress, the night sky in particular. The sky is as impossible as planets; in essence, when you look into the sky, 'you look outside the material plane'. At night, Nirn is surrounded by Oblivion. The day sky is the multicolored elemental cloak of Magnus the sun. It changes colors as elemental influences rise and fall. Thus, when one looks at the day sky, they see into the raiments of Aetherius, and stare at magic."
"Space is the interpretation of Oblivio, which is black and empty and surrounds the mortal plane. Space is infinite, but it acts just like a planet, in that Oblivion is 'surrounded' by Aetherius. You can see Aetherius by the stars."
"Magnus is the sun, the largest hole in Oblivio, and the gateway to magic. Magnus was present at the creation of the mortal plane, and, in fact, was its architect (Lorkhan was its advocate and inspiration). Prehistoric (before ME2500, startyear) Nirn was a magical place, and highly unstable to the first mortals. Magnus then left, some say in disgust, and Oblivion filled in the void with the Void. His escape was not easy, and tatters of Magnus remain in the firmament as stars."
TL;DR "shooting the sun" with Auriel's bow is an impossible feat to calculate.
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For now i will change his stats to Small Island level by powerscaling from the greybeards that shaked the world
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His speed deserves an upgrade ,the sun is the hole Magnus created so that he could pass from the mortal plane back to Aetherius and the elder scrolls cosmollogy goes like this: Nirm (the planet the Elder Scrolls happen) is surronded by its moons and the Aedric planets ,this multi planet system is called Mundus.Mundus is surrounded by oblivion and Oblivion is surrounded by Aetherius.To reach the sun the arrows have to reach oblivion.
Just a super low end would be if i assume that the arrows travel the distance between the earth and the moon in 2 sec, the result would be 60 % of the speed of light.
Just a super low end would be if i assume that the arrows travel the distance between the earth and the moon in 2 sec, the result would be 60 % of the speed of light.
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No. The evidence you give actually works against you.Kkapoios said:
"The planets are the gods and the planes of the gods, which is the same thing. That they appear as spherical heavenly bodies is a visual phenomena caused by mortal mental stress. Since each plane(t) is an infinite mass of infinite size, as yet surrounded by the Void of Oblivion, the mortal eye registers them as bubbles within a space. Planets are magical and impossible. The eight planets correspond to the Eight Divines. They are all present on the Dwarven Orrery, along with the mortal planet, Nirn."
"The sky is another visual phenomenon caused by mortal mental stress, the night sky in particular. The sky is as impossible as planets; in essence, when you look into the sky, 'you look outside the material plane'. At night, Nirn is surrounded by Oblivion. The day sky is the multicolored elemental cloak of Magnus the sun. It changes colors as elemental influences rise and fall. Thus, when one looks at the day sky, they see into the raiments of Aetherius, and stare at magic."
In the setting of TES, a conventional projectile fired into the sky would never reach the boundary of the sky no matter how fast it was traveling, since the distance between the "planet" and "space" is literally infinite by definition, meaning that the feat of "shooting the sun" is physically impossible, and therefore must be conceptual rather than literal—AKA, the arrow doesn't physically hit the sun (since that is literally impossible without using a magical portal to Oblivion), but the act of "shooting at the sun" has significance as a concept magically. It's just like mythology, people—in ancient Greece the sun was said to be Helios's chariot, but that doesn't mean Helios rode around on a massive sphere of fusing hydrogen.
'TL;DR— No, it doesn't. It needs a downgrade. TES cosmology is NOTHING like the real world, so it can't be used for calculating feats.'
