Doctor vs Anti-Spiral

[ZacharyGrossman273]

We would have the most awesome mech suit ever

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Take a hike hike Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Tengen Toppa TARDIS Lagann is in charge now!

 

[Warren_Valion]

So Doctor has better both brute force, hax, AND intellegence.

The Doctor has the AP advantage for sure, but Intelligence?

Both are Supergeniuses, but the Anti-Spiral is Possibly Nigh-Omniscient, while the Doctor is not.


And I must ask, has the Doctor dealt with the level of Probability Hax that the Anti-Spiral possess? Just because he dealt with probability users, doesn't mean he can defeat the Anti-Spiral.

AS probability hax is so good it can make the impossible possible. Things with a 0% chance of succeeding, can be changed to 100% and vise versa. All of the Doctor's abilities and defense can be negated by the probability of them not working right, and the AS can control that probability and bring it to fruition.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

The guardians of time are nigh omniscient and he outsmarted one. Also that seems to be the main and only argument for anti spiral, while the doctor has tons of abilities anti spiral can't resist.

 

[Warren_Valion]

That has to be PIS. A Supergenius can't outsmart a Nigh-Omniscient. AS can negate the probability of The Doctor using those abilities, or those abilities being able to work to 0%. Not to mention The Doctor's defenses would also get negated.


You would have a dead Doctor.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Can it work on high 1-Cs? Also type 8 negates that

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Also wait the quantum archangel who he beat has probability hax

 

[Warren_Valion]

Can it work on high 1-Cs? Also type 8 negates that

There's no reason it shouldn't, although the only other High 1-Cs in TTGL are the main cast that also have that level of Probability hax.


Also, what is the Darkheart? And how does it neg Probability manipulation?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

The quantum archangel also has high 1-C probability hax and key to time >>> guardians of time >>>time lords >>> quantum archangel

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

What are the vote?

 

[Schnee_One]

1 for Doc

1 for AS from me

He can't get past probability that is superior to anything he's dealt with

 

[Warren_Valion]

I also vote for Anti-Spiral via his OP Probability hax.

@ZacharyGrossman273

You're missing the point. It doesn't matter if they have probability hax, it matters if they have it on AS's level, which they seemingly don't, so they lose this fight.

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't think AS can kill Doctor tho

Can he?

 

[Warren_Valion]

I don't think AS can kill Doctor tho
Can he?

Not entirely sure.

Probably. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Schnee_One]

I assume that's a no

Inconclusive I suppose

 

[Warren_Valion]

I assume that's a no
Inconclusive I suppose

I'm not sure. I'm not the most knowledgeable about either verse.

I was just making a pun about the AS's Probability Hax.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I doubt it's inconclusive. I think The Doctor should win, but there are ways the anti-spiral could win, so the doctor wins with difficulty.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Also probability manipulation can't bypass durability

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

So, Doctor wins, with difficulty. Anti Spiral dies.

 

[Schnee_One]

Also probability manipulation can't bypass durability

<Can ignore Durability with probability manipulation

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Okay, again,how is that different from the quantum archangel's probablity stuff?

 

[Schnee_One]

My question

Why are you comparing the two when they ultimately have two different sets of feats?

AS, for the record, makes Kitta look like an utter joke, a guy who can change the probability of an impossible outcome and make it happen

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Hey wait a minute

Between 10-D and 11-D is below solid 11-D

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

^no one answered this

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

And Fate Manipiulation

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Also can Anti Spiral probability manipulation work on other High 1-Cs?

 

[Schnee_One]

Have you even SEEN Gurren Laggann?

The literal entire fight is Simon and AS using probability against eachother.

Also no, 10d to 11d is the same thing as just 11d

 

[ShadyScourge]

Voting Anti-Spiral, for all the reasons given above.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Why can't the doctor just mindhax antispiral? He has way better mind control than Antispiral who just has a lotus eater machine

 

[Schnee_One]

Mind Manip under passive probability?

Do tell?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

The Doctor is getting Conceptual manipulation soon, and potentially both probability and causality manipulation

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

And passive probability manipulation, so the vote count should be reset

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

okay

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Anyhow, since the doctor got revised...

Both have passive probability manipulation, but the doctor has conceptual manipulation that works on 11-Ds. He could also erase the concept of probability if need be.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah, Doctor FRA now

 

[ShadyScourge]

Well, as much as love Gurren Lagann, I'm not the biased type. Voting Doc for that conceptual manip.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

And now the doctor has acausality and math manipulation

 

[Phoenix821]

Doctor FRA

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

What's the score?

@Gargoyle, should I remove Piccolo vs Meruem?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

4 for doctor and 0 for anti spiral since the revisions