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As everyone knows I like to wank DMC but I also love keeping it accurate.
Dante is able to scale to Mundus creating a whole Universe, as well as Argosax being able to merge the Human and Demon Realms together, comfortably putting Dante at Low Multi. There’s also the Mirror World, a potential third universe in the equation. And he has gotten a lot stronger since this point, upscaling these numbers to an incredible degree. However, Clive doesn’t fall short. Omega could pull power from the Sagespire, a man-made Mothercrystal, and use that to perform an Universal feat, and Clive is able to beat him and shatter the Mothercrystal in base. Since then, Clive has only grown stronger over time too, being able to surpass that level many times.
So overall, while Dante is incredibly strong, Clive will always end up with the edge in Power, whether that be through greater raw numbers, bigger multipliers, or his sheer willpower picking him up and making him go stronger.
Dante might have good abilities, but Clive’s resistances and possibility of taking away Dante’s arsenal in addition to the unlikeliness of Dante pulling his wincons off make Clive the winner in this category. Clive easily takes Abilities.
while Dante’s Quicksilver can slow down time around the area (usually the same room), Clive’s temporal abilities can slow down or stop time as a whole. It’s a no-brainer that Clive has better range, especially as Ifrit.
Moving to Endurance, this is more nuanced than it appears initially, and also pretty important. While it’s true Dante fought Urizen for a lot of time at the start of DMC 5 (about a day), Clive’s last outing with Ultima, we have a greater feat. At the beginning of the last part of the game in the raid against Ultima, it is daytime. By the end, it is already night time. While no precise timeframe is given, it is reasonable to assume at least a few hours passed. This is important because Clive did basically nothing but fight the entire time, and every time he was getting overpowered, at the very end he adapted and got even stronger, meaning it will be very hard for Dante to get him tired or vulnerable. His superior stamina paired with his insane adaptability means Clive takes Endurance by a lot.
With all this in mind lets downgrade DMC to Low 2-C or 2-C at most
Agree:
Disagree (you'll only last 6 minutes in bed like Dante):
Neutral:
Dante is able to scale to Mundus creating a whole Universe, as well as Argosax being able to merge the Human and Demon Realms together, comfortably putting Dante at Low Multi. There’s also the Mirror World, a potential third universe in the equation. And he has gotten a lot stronger since this point, upscaling these numbers to an incredible degree. However, Clive doesn’t fall short. Omega could pull power from the Sagespire, a man-made Mothercrystal, and use that to perform an Universal feat, and Clive is able to beat him and shatter the Mothercrystal in base. Since then, Clive has only grown stronger over time too, being able to surpass that level many times.
So overall, while Dante is incredibly strong, Clive will always end up with the edge in Power, whether that be through greater raw numbers, bigger multipliers, or his sheer willpower picking him up and making him go stronger.
Dante might have good abilities, but Clive’s resistances and possibility of taking away Dante’s arsenal in addition to the unlikeliness of Dante pulling his wincons off make Clive the winner in this category. Clive easily takes Abilities.
while Dante’s Quicksilver can slow down time around the area (usually the same room), Clive’s temporal abilities can slow down or stop time as a whole. It’s a no-brainer that Clive has better range, especially as Ifrit.
Moving to Endurance, this is more nuanced than it appears initially, and also pretty important. While it’s true Dante fought Urizen for a lot of time at the start of DMC 5 (about a day), Clive’s last outing with Ultima, we have a greater feat. At the beginning of the last part of the game in the raid against Ultima, it is daytime. By the end, it is already night time. While no precise timeframe is given, it is reasonable to assume at least a few hours passed. This is important because Clive did basically nothing but fight the entire time, and every time he was getting overpowered, at the very end he adapted and got even stronger, meaning it will be very hard for Dante to get him tired or vulnerable. His superior stamina paired with his insane adaptability means Clive takes Endurance by a lot.
With all this in mind lets downgrade DMC to Low 2-C or 2-C at most
Agree:
Disagree (you'll only last 6 minutes in bed like Dante):
Neutral: