Devil May Cry Anime show Discussion Thread

[SuperSonicTL]

Adi also said he wanted to do Berserk. Who is excited for that?

Where bruh

 

[Huesito88]

So we can see Guts get humiliated by Farnese?

Atleast the animation will be better (except when they use CGI like they did with DMC again....)

 

[Huesito88]

Where bruh

Since 2018 (and theirs way more tweets)

 

[Emerald]

Adi also said he wanted to do Berserk. Who is excited for that?

I really dont think he would be able to adapt it properly, really seems like he only cares about the "edginess/cool factor" and Berserk is not just that

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

So we can see Guts get humiliated by Farnese?

Donovan did nothing wrong, Guts is a homophobe ,Griffith did nothing wrong, Gut's should have probably stroked himself in the corner while he did Casca, Casca will girlboss and gaslight Guts and bend over for Daddy Griffith, Serpico becomes a ****** cowardly simp, Farnese becomes another "hypercompetent" girlboss yada yada yada

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Wow, Devil May Cry 3 manga is amazing and i've only just had a chance to read it, those statues that look like angels are quite powerful and they stare at all the visitors, i hope this is explored in future games.

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Wow, Devil May Cry 3 manga is amazing and i've only just had a chance to read it, those statues that look like angels are quite powerful and they stare at all the visitors, i hope this is explored in future games.

Yeah the manga is filled with lore and basic world building for the most part. Also pretty sick artstyle.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yeah the manga is filled with lore and basic world building for the most part. Also pretty sick artstyle.

Hehehe, I really like these things and I'm in chapter 7 now.

 

[Huesito88]

Donovan did nothing wrong, Guts is a homophobe ,Griffith did nothing wrong, Gut's should have probably stroked himself in the corner while he did Casca, Casca will girlboss and gaslight Guts and bend over for Daddy Griffith, Serpico becomes a ****** cowardly simp, Farnese becomes another "hypercompetent" girlboss yada yada yada

We got the "War on Terror (9/11)" politics in DMC, what politics should be incorporated for the Netflix Berserk anime?

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Oops wrong chat. I blame @Drite77 e.t.c.

 

[Drite77]

Oops wrong chat. I blame @Drite77 e.t.c.

On my birthday as well

 

[SuperSonicTL]

On my birthday as well

Yeah, your fault for being born in my world you insect Happy Birthday btw

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Hehehe, I really like these things and I'm in chapter 7 now.

Good, you will see great art and a pretty interesting setting

On my birthday as well

Happy birthday bozo hope you have a great day

 

[Drite77]

 

[Drite77]

Tag

Ey buddy, your two calcs got evaluated by Rusty and they need some adjustments

If ya don't wanna do it, I can remake them tomorrow... or after since I'll probably be drunk '-'

 

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Can someone post every calc here? Evaluated and those that still need to be. We can post the profiles already and use the ones alraedy evaluated.

 

[Drite77]

Can someone post every calc here? Evaluated and those that still need to be. We can post the profiles already and use the ones alraedy evaluated.

I don't want to post the profiles yet if people still think Lady scales to Dante, but here they are

Devil May Cry Netflix: Rabbit parries bullets

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Devil May Cry Netflix: Rabbit smashes some rotor blades

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Devil May Cry Netflix: Dante tanks an explosion

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Devil May Cry: Sparda

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Devil May Cry Netflix: Dante kicks Rudra

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Devil May Cry: Lady survives an explosion

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[Drite77]

The Sparda one seems to be unusable, I'll recalc the Lady explosion feat, if it is too low I'll calc the one where she gets thrown into a wall.

There is also another feat for Dante in episode 8 that might be higher then 9-B, not fully sure

Edit: Not today as I plan to get drunk

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I don't want to post the profiles yet if people still think Lady scales to Dante, but here they are

Devil May Cry: Lady survives an explosion

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This one needs to be fixed. Also the Sparda one needs to be fixed.

You also forgot to calc the other from episode 2 in which both Lady and Dante survive a grenade almost point blank (and Lady also survives the fall from the building immediately next to the explosion)


Also yeah, Lady will obviously scale to Dante. That honestly isn't up for debate given everything we saw in season 1.

Finally, from what I could see we will be getting Supersonic, class M, 9-B to 8-C, possibly 8B for DT Dante using the Sparda

 

[Drite77]

This one needs to be fixed. Also the Sparda one needs to be fixed.

Sparda can't be calced according to Rusty

You also forgot to calc the other from episode 2 in which both Lady and Dante survive a grenade almost point blank (and Lady also survives the fall from the building immediately next to the explosion)

I didn't forgot, there is only smoke there, I can get a radius from that

Also yeah, Lady will obviously scale to Dante. That honestly isn't up for debate given everything we saw in season 1.

It is up to debate, she is shown inferior when Compared to Dante on every occasion except for a single time, Dante is shown physically superior on every account later. I honestly can't believe so many people believe it based on a single scene that is not consistant to all of her other showings

Finally, from what I could see we will be getting Supersonic, class M, 9-B to 8-C, possibly 8B for DT Dante using the Sparda

No 8-B

 

[Arkenis]

I don't want to post the profiles yet if people still think Lady scales to Dante, but here they are

Devil May Cry Netflix: Rabbit parries bullets

vsbattles.fandom.com

Devil May Cry Netflix: Rabbit smashes some rotor blades

vsbattles.fandom.com

Devil May Cry Netflix: Dante tanks an explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

Devil May Cry: Sparda

vsbattles.fandom.com

Devil May Cry Netflix: Dante kicks Rudra

vsbattles.fandom.com

Devil May Cry: Lady survives an explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

Have you or anyone calced Dante dodging the bullets in ep2?

 

[Drite77]

Have you or anyone calced Dante dodging the bullets in ep2?

It got lower then that

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

 

[Huesito88]

Wow zero mercy in the comments

 

[Drite77]

Hey Folks, just wanna inform the amount of calcs has increased to the point I am confident profiles for all the, the main calcs are:

Lady gets thrown into a wall
Kalina Ann's Potency
Dante breaks rooftop
Mutated Rabbit breaks rooftop
Rabbit parries bullets
Mutated Rabbit smashes rotor blades

There are 7 other smaller calcs that you guys can check all in the blog of the verse page I have created

There are also 8 profiles basically ready to go (Dante, Lady, White Rabbit, Plasma, Echidna, Cavaliere, Agni and Rudra)

I know the scaling doesn't bode well with everyone, so I would like us to discuss a bit about it (Next message are what I believe are the main things that people might not fully agree), I currently have:

AP/Dura

Base Dante, DT eye Dante's durability and Cavaliere: 9-A (Dante and Cavaliere are pretty much equal, Cavaliere survived Kalina Ann's explosion and DT eye Dante got one shot by White Rabbit but at the same time can match is strength, so it seems he doesn't have added dura)

Agni and Rudra: At least 9-A, likely higher (Dante was unable to actually damage them with his punches)

White Rabbit, Lady, Plasma and Echidna: 9-B (Lady and Plasma share the same 9-B feat, Echidna unfortunately lacks anything to put her above it as she only faced Lady while Dante dispatched her quite easily, while the White Rabbit is being scaled to Lady since Dante defeats him with a single punch, so he can't scale to him)

DT Eyes Dante's AP and Mutated Rabbit: 8-C (Feats basically)

DT Dante: At least 8-C (Scales above DT eyes and Mutated Rabbit as he quikcly dispatched him)

Speed

Supersonic+ based on White Rabbit's feat on EP 1, as you can absically cross scale everybody to that speed quite easily

Lifting Strength

Lady and White Rabbit: Superhuman (They each can thrown a grown man very far and unfortunately lack any scaling to other characters

Echidna and Plasma: Class 50 (Plasma tossed a truck and Echidna should be around that, she at least thinks she is superior to him)

The rest + Lady with Kalina Ann: Class M (With varieties of "At least" for some as they've been shown to be slightly superior sometimes)

Regeneration
White Rabbit, Agni, Rudra, Echidna and Cavaliere: Mid-Low (Demon blood is innately regenerative, so imo the ones who don't show any type of Regen should have this via scaling from White Rabbit)

Dante and possibly Echidna: High-Low (Dante is obvious, Echidna was pierced with a sword and later had no holes, so I put a possibly High-Low regen there)

Dante overtime: Low-Mid (His brain wasn't fully destroyed, so I don't think he should be given Mid over time, just Low-Mid)

Plasma: Mid (Regenerated from his head blowing up, self-explanatory)

 

[Drite77]

Ok, so, let's try this one more time, I feel like it's clear that, about power-scaling, there are two things people are not exactly in agreement with: Lady's scaling and if the verse has Regen negation

I personally think Lady does not scale to Dante in any way and I also don't think the verse has enough showings for Regen Negation. I'll go on each one of those, explain why I think it isn't the case and talk about stuff that I think might be argued in favor of either of them.

Lady does not Scale to dante
Perhaps the issue I think people mostly disagree here, I'm of the humble opinion Lady does not have enough showings to scale to Dante and I think there is enough evidence to say Dante is massively above her physically

First evidence I want to point out is Plasma, in the 1st episode, not only does Dante reverses the pin Plasma has on him, he also pretty muches one shots him with a single punch (Plasma is basically unable to maintain his form after the punch, he is pretty much out if it wasn't for regen)

Comparing that to Lady facing Plasma, all of his hits affect her, be it from that punch or the wall he launched her into, all in all, it says to me Lady is unable to put Plasma down like Dante did

Second thing is, from episodes 4-5, she's been running from Echidna and Cavaliere, and had to resort to subtefurge to deal with them

Third is the last episode, where Dante is able to fight Mutated Rabbit for a extended period of time, clashing with him and being thrown around while Lady was quickly taken out by one of his punches and didn't regain conscious until very later. Dante, in comparisson, is easily able to fight again much faster.

Overall, Dante always shows much better physical feats then Lady, now let's go to some things I've seen being said to say Lady scales to Dante:

Counter arguments I've seen/might be said
"She kicked Dante, which means she scales to him" Which can be seen here

Imo, this barely qualifies as hurting, Dante wanted his amulet, which was on his hand, there is also the fact of "surprise", Dante held her in a considerable drop, he wouldn't have any chance to believe she would be 'dumb' enough to hit him and risk getting hurt. Combined with Plasma's examples, I don't think this qualifies

"She fought Cavaliere, Plasma, Echidna, Agni and Rudra, so she scales to them". That's assuming all of them are physically equal, we know for certain Plasma isn't, Echidna I'll get in a bit, and about the other 3, they were never able to hit her during the fight, so there is no precedent Lady should scale to them

"She scales to Echidna who constantly battles her", it is the inverse in my opinion, Echidna scales to Lady. Echidna has no other showings outside of the two times she hit Lady with her whips, in the Highway, she gets hit once and is basically just left in the highway without any other impressive showing afterwards. She never faced Dante again, and there is not a lot of reason to scale her to Agni, Rudra or Cavaliere

"She was under drugs in the building", said drugs did not hamper her physical attributes, she wouldn't struggle so much against Plasma otherwise, so I don't buy this argument that much, and by the time Cavaliere actually appear, she already realized they were illusions and was shrugging them off already, as we can see it in her own eyes, the Illusions are very distinctive from reality

"She stopped Cavaliere on his tracks" Can be seen here. It was only with Kalina Ann, she never displayed any showings this impressive in the show before, she couldn't undo Echidna's grip, she was easily thrown by Plasma, things that wouldn't happen if she was slightly comparable to Dante who, once again, was able to undo Plasma's hold on him without any type of leverage.

If I missed anything, feel free to point it out to me

None of the characters or equipments have Regen Negation
Something I've seen here, but I don't think it has enough basis, some peeps say both the Anti-Demon bullets and Dante have Regen Negation, but that couldn't be farther from the truth

They come from the fact Dante killed Agni and the bullets killed Rudra and Echidna, and the reason people say its Regen negation is because people are comparing it to Dante, who regenerated from this

However this is very contradictory, Lady shot Plasma many times with the bullets and he regenerated from them and she never commented on it not working on him, Dante was also shot, regenerated from it and, once again, no comment about Dante being immune to any anti regen effect. Agni also regenerated from those bullets.

On the topic of Dante, he pierced Echidna with Agni and Rudra's combined swords, and we later see her fine. On the topic of Dante negating regen, he killed the demon in episode 1 with guns and when he shot Plasma, he once again regenerated

Demons do have regenerated abilities, as confirmed by White Rabbit, but it is not that strong, and it seems to vary a lot, Plasma and Dante have shown regeneration above the other demons, while Echidna might have a higher regeneration.

I think the only counter-argument is that people might just say Dante and Plasma's regen can't be negated, but that is too much of a stretch imo

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Will give my thoughts later

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

All that yap to try and deny reality. No matter what, Lady will scale above Dante.

 

[Drite77]

All that yap to try and deny reality. No matter what, Lady will scale above Dante.

I don't know why you don't want to discuss the subject, your opinion is not the only that matters '-'

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Never said I didn't want to discuss this, nor that my opinion is the only one that matters.

I just said that it is inevitable. She will end up scaling above him.

 

[Drite77]

Never said I didn't want to discuss this, nor that my opinion is the only one that matters.

I just said that it is inevitable. She will end up scaling above him.

I doubt that tbh '-'

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I don't know why you don't want to discuss the subject, your opinion is not the only that matters '-'

Because some of them are stubborn, they couldnt even defend tier 1 ratings after the poc fiasco was taken off and ended up back to what was achieved 7 or so years ago (2-C ratings)

Lady doesnt scale to Dante and this agenda to do so is outright pettyness on this Dante just cuz he isnt as powerful as original

 

[Drite77]

Because some of them are stubborn, they couldnt even defend tier 1 ratings after the poc fiasco was taken off and ended up back to what was achieved 7 or so years ago (2-C ratings)

Lady doesnt scale to Dante and this agenda to do so is outright pettyness on this Dante just cuz he isnt as powerful as original

Don't think there is a reason to act rude/aggressive like that, I like to think most of the peeps here are either adults or are mature enough to hold a conversation without acting like that

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I dont know what conversation you expect here if they are dead set to scale Lady to Dante and above for reasons laid out not to work

You received a reply in the form of "all this yap to deny facts, she gonna scale above him no matter what", that isnt anymore worthy of a talk, calling that out isnt rude or aggressive, its the reality of how things are handled, popular opinion wins, if you got the numbers, others get ignored

 

[Random-Helper323]

...

Isn't mid regeneration caused by surviving severe brain damage? In his case the explosive went off in his brain (stem?) and the explosion reached far enough that it blew his face apart, so he might qualify for Mid over time. Seems like a possibly if nothing else.

Also, are all those calculations evaluated and accepted? If it was just one or two I would have checked them myself, but wow you've been busy.

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Because some of them are stubborn, they couldnt even defend tier 1 ratings after the poc fiasco was taken off and ended up back to what was achieved 7 or so years ago (2-C ratings)

I lowkey had the same thought but there is also another factor which is just some people aren't ready to hear us out on that front however, I'll try that with a more in-depth analysis in the future.

For the moment, it's just better to work on weak fronts before jumping huge like that iykwim.

Lady doesnt scale to Dante and this agenda to do so is outright pettyness on this Dante just cuz he isnt as powerful as original

Also, I agree with Dante scaling over Lady in general. It's just Dante goes head in first and think later which screws him over, atleast to my observation but other's are free to assume otherwise.

 

[Drite77]

Isn't mid regeneration caused by surviving severe brain damage? In his case the explosive blasted in his brain (stem?) and the explosion reached far enough that it blew his face apart, so he might qualify for Mid over time

Possibly, Low-Mid has minor brain damage which I think it fits more then mid, but a possibly is still up there

Also, are all those calculations evaluated and accepted

All the necessary calculations are, some priority 4 are not, though once again, Priority 4 so I wouldn't be focused on that currently, think the most important priority 4 ones are the 8-Cs

 

[Random-Helper323]

Possibly, Low-Mid has minor brain damage which I think it fits more then mid, but a possibly is still up there

Yeah, I just read the page. Still, an explosion going off inside the brain which reaches far enough to blast the face apart would likely qualify as severe brain damage.

All the necessary calculations are, some priority 4 are not, though once again, Priority 4 so I wouldn't be focused on that currently, think the most important priority 4 ones are the 8-Cs

The 8-C stuff does seem fairly central.

 

[Drite77]

The 8-C stuff does seem fairly central.

If it matters, 2 are evaluated, the highest and the lowest, with the middle one still not evaluated, think is enough